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Posted by daydreamer on Nov-20-2009 02:14:

Sex Offenses on the Subways Are Widespread

From the NY TIMES:

The peak times in which women report sexual harassment or assaults on the subways are the late morning rush, roughly 8 to 10 a.m., followed by the early afternoon rush, 4 to 6 p.m.

One stretch of the subways � the crowded Nos. 4, 5 and 6 lines between Grand Central Terminal and Union Square � is a particular source of complaints.

And the average age of the men arrested this year for sexual offenses on the subways is 39

FULL READ HERE



have you been ogled, groped, flashed, harrased, or even attacked....ogled?

what, can't I even look at a hot girl anymore... ogle....jejeje

seriously, when i'm in the subway, some guys will just stare at me like they are fucking with their eyes. blink already! shite! it is damn creepy.

girls will just look, but they are more respectful about this shit. guys will take shit overboard. where do they think they are, japan? O_o


Posted by leph555 on Nov-20-2009 02:49:

yea but its not as bad as what happens on the G train, there are guys masturbating by sleeping women, and everyone doesn't seem to notice.

well thats what i read on gothamist anyways :P


Posted by kingchinc on Nov-20-2009 05:15:

i wish i was oggled...


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Nov-20-2009 17:36:

that shit is sick.

It doesn't really happen on the trains I ride on (thank GOD!) but I get cat called so much on the street that it actually makes me wanna punch them in the face.

Honestly.. I could be sick as fuk... red nose.. sniffles coughing and that's like the day I get hit on the most.

Old men in NY are creepy and terrible. Where I work I could get hit on 3-4 times just from the train to my job. Fuking HATE IT!


Posted by Swamper on Nov-20-2009 17:41:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
It doesn't really happen on the trains I ride on (thank GOD!) but I get cat called so much on the street that it actually makes me wanna punch them in the face.


Shit, sorry.. I'll stop doing that.


Posted by Scoops on Nov-20-2009 17:42:

I like the Wall of Shame idea....


pics of these perverts will be posted all through out the subway on a Wall of Shame


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Nov-20-2009 17:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Shit, sorry.. I'll stop doing that.
*shakes fist*


swampy.. you would be that creepy old dude on the train!


Posted by DJ_Lord on Nov-20-2009 18:57:

i agree with most of you BUT, as a man i gotta say that when a girl steps into a subway car wearing a mini skirt (during summertime, for obvious reasons) and she looks sexy as hell. I AM GOING TO STARE AT HER. if she doesn't like it then go back home and change.


Posted by coolestrl on Nov-20-2009 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
that shit is sick.

Fuking HATE IT!



Posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 on Nov-21-2009 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
as a man i gotta say that when a girl steps into a subway car wearing a mini skirt (during summertime, for obvious reasons) and she looks sexy as hell. I AM GOING TO STARE AT HER. if she doesn't like it then go back home and change.


exactly, if a girl is dressed like that then she needs to own up to it she's asking for the attention, if thats not the case though you just have to be careful


Posted by Trancealot on Nov-21-2009 21:08:

There is
1. Doing it but not intentionally
2. Doing it intentionally

This can happen in the subway or out of the subway.

When it gets packed I always put both hands in the air(one holding the grab bars and one at chest height blocking me like I would playing defense in basketball) so I don't touch something illegal down there and get a couple of important inches infront of me The A,1,2,3,6 are the worst. I try to always avoid the rushhour so I don't have to deal with pushing and shoving. When you wait one more train I would say 50-70% of the time the train has less people(not 50%-70% less people

I do see the ocassional nice dress woman but I am sure they look at nice dressed guys also.


Posted by chimera66 on Nov-21-2009 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985
exactly, if a girl is dressed like that then she needs to own up to it she's asking for the attention, if thats not the case though you just have to be careful



attention yes but not to be stared down. there is a difference between noticing someone and appreciating they look good and noticing someone and being sketchy about it. staring at people is rude and makes them uncomfortable. also some things i worn out of comfort, some exercise clothes could be seen as attention seeking but you can't expect people to cover up all the time.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Nov-21-2009 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by chimera66
attention yes but not to be stared down. there is a difference between noticing someone and appreciating they look good and noticing someone and being sketchy about it. staring at people is rude and makes them uncomfortable. also some things i worn out of comfort, some exercise clothes could be seen as attention seeking but you can't expect people to cover up all the time.


+1 to that!




Mels: the worst is when dudes on the street do this: "PSSSSSSSSSSSSST! PSSSTTTTT!!! ma! Mami!! PSSSTTTTT!!!"


Like "WTF are you whispering at m*therf*cker??"


Posted by AY STAR on Nov-21-2009 23:42:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
+1 to that!




Mels: the worst is when dudes on the street do this: "PSSSSSSSSSSSSST! PSSSTTTTT!!! ma! Mami!! PSSSTTTTT!!!"


Like "WTF are you whispering at m*therf*cker??"


thats so cheeeeesey...atleast say something like
you:"hey miss you dropped something"
her: (looks around) "no i didnt"
me: "yes you did...my jaw, cause your just so beautiful"

nah but i understand what you girls mean, some guys are just straight up creeps and dont understand the word no, i see it all day long

but on the other hand some girls just bring the unwanted attention upon themselves on how they dress...there be some skanky bitches walking around
thankfully i dont have/i dont want a daugther, she would be dressing like a jewish school girl 24/7 if i did


Posted by euphoria on Nov-22-2009 20:02:

If the person oogling me is hot then it's acceptable lol but if you try to touch me I will return your hand back to you in pieces.


Posted by DJ Eco on Nov-22-2009 21:51:

Some creeper at Pacha stood right next to me as I was dancing with this girl, GRABBED HER ASS for like 10 seconds. She turned around cos she eventually had a feeling it wasn't me... He's like 6 inches from me and I didn't even notice. I shove him, he says sorry and like jogs away, I nailed him in the back of the head with a right hook...


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Nov-22-2009 21:55:

you know what?? i just hate the thought of guys coming up to me in general - especially at a club.

I'm sorry - what dane cook said is right. I go out with my girls TO DANCE or listen to music. Even if the guy is hot I would always turn him down.

You just need to come up with something better then a "hey mami. PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST"

Starring is creepy and invading my space is worse. Thing about NY is foot traffic SUCKS! You can do whatever to TRY and change this but it will never stop(harassment) .


Posted by chimera66 on Nov-22-2009 23:11:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
you know what?? i just hate the thought of guys coming up to me in general - especially at a club.

I'm sorry - what dane cook said is right. I go out with my girls TO DANCE or listen to music. Even if the guy is hot I would always turn him down.

You just need to come up with something better then a "hey mami. PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST"

Starring is creepy and invading my space is worse. Thing about NY is foot traffic SUCKS! You can do whatever to TRY and change this but it will never stop(harassment) .


true story i go out to dance, if people want to look and not be sketch about it i'm alright with that but the comments or even worse the unprovoked touching is a huge no-no. although lately at pacha as odd as this sounds, guys have asked to dance which is different and slighly odd since pacha isn't a middle school dance but the comment is much appreciated.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Nov-22-2009 23:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
Some creeper at Pacha stood right next to me as I was dancing with this girl, GRABBED HER ASS for like 10 seconds. She turned around cos she eventually had a feeling it wasn't me... He's like 6 inches from me and I didn't even notice. I shove him, he says sorry and like jogs away, I nailed him in the back of the head with a right hook...





I love you marcello. that is so gangsta.


Posted by AY STAR on Nov-22-2009 23:30:

quote:
Originally posted by chimera66
true story i go out to dance, if people want to look and not be sketch about it i'm alright with that but the comments or even worse the unprovoked touching is a huge no-no.


to comment on this and what mel said about girls just going out to dance
you girls are going to get hit on and touched even more, then if you were by yourself or with another guy

once guys see a group of single women...they will attack

you have been warned, just be safe and keep your eyes open
espeically if a guy offers to buy you a drink...if you do accept
make sure you go to the bar with him and watch him get the drink

some guys will go buy you a drink slip something in it and its a wrap
i see it happen to alot of girls


Posted by JPlay on Nov-23-2009 00:09:

thats the problem with most girls in ny...i agree that some guys just take it too far, however, that's mostly out of frustration or maybe it worked with other girls.

but i hate those girls that say "i'm just going out to dance with my girls" that's bullshit, as soon as a guy you like comes over you will start playing games to turn him into you. so i don't believe it. girls want it as much as guys do, they just don't get as much shit from everyone because the guy is the one who has to make the first move most of the time.

don't get me wrong, if a guy comes over and you blow him off but he continues pressing we have a problem there, however, MOST of the time girls who have blown me off the first time end up hooking up with me by the 2nd or 3rd attempt, it's all about being smooth. at least that's how i see it. i've hit on a group of girls at the club, you know, those that "just go out to dance with their girls" and end up taking one of them home so again, that's bullshit.

if you wanna just dance then go to a gay club, i have a lot of female friends that do that and no one even pays attention to them.

in any case, i just wanted to share my thoughts because we were discussing this the other day during dinner and again later that night we went out to a club and my friends and i (3 guys) end up getting together with 3 random girls, yet again. u just gotta be smooth and that's it. if a person goes to a public place and doesn't want to socialize with anyone then stay home, we don't need this kind of negativity in today's world thank you!

sorry for the long post!


Posted by AY STAR on Nov-23-2009 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by JPlay
thats the problem with most girls in ny...i agree that some guys just take it too far, however, that's mostly out of frustration or maybe it worked with other girls.

but i hate those girls that say "i'm just going out to dance with my girls" that's bullshit, as soon as a guy you like comes over you will start playing games to turn him into you. so i don't believe it. girls want it as much as guys do, they just don't get as much shit from everyone because the guy is the one who has to make the first move most of the time.

don't get me wrong, if a guy comes over and you blow him off but he continues pressing we have a problem there, however, MOST of the time girls who have blown me off the first time end up hooking up with me by the 2nd or 3rd attempt, it's all about being smooth. at least that's how i see it. i've hit on a group of girls at the club, you know, those that "just go out to dance with their girls" and end up taking one of them home so again, that's bullshit.

if you wanna just dance then go to a gay club, i have a lot of female friends that do that and no one even pays attention to them.

in any case, i just wanted to share my thoughts because we were discussing this the other day during dinner and again later that night we went out to a club and my friends and i (3 guys) end up getting together with 3 random girls, yet again. u just gotta be smooth and that's it. if a person goes to a public place and doesn't want to socialize with anyone then stay home, we don't need this kind of negativity in today's world thank you!

sorry for the long post!


you do make some good points


Posted by JPlay on Nov-23-2009 00:19:

quote:
Originally posted by AY STAR
you do make some good points


yea, i mean, it's all about moderation...i play it by feeling them out first, if i approach a girl and she puts me off very abruptly then i have no intentions in even talking to her anymore because she's simply not into me, that's why u have 1000 other girls around you. but if she picks up my game and starts following it then why not, you know? that's all i'm saying.

my dad told me that back in the day everybody knew each other at the club, it was like a family thing and there were so many positive vibrations going on that it was so easy to get together, girls were into, guys were into it, it was like cooking a perfect dinner

anyway, that's enough outta me. times change so does people.


Posted by chimera66 on Nov-23-2009 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by AY STAR
to comment on this and what mel said about girls just going out to dance
you girls are going to get hit on and touched even more, then if you were by yourself or with another guy

once guys see a group of single women...they will attack

you have been warned, just be safe and keep your eyes open
espeically if a guy offers to buy you a drink...if you do accept
make sure you go to the bar with him and watch him get the drink

some guys will go buy you a drink slip something in it and its a wrap
i see it happen to alot of girls


you sound like my mom

also, being alone or seeming like you are alone is much worse.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Nov-23-2009 01:00:

quote:
Originally posted by JPlay
if you wanna just dance then go to a gay club, i have a lot of female friends that do that and no one even pays attention to them.


while most of your points make sense, this one certainly doesnt.

Im not gonna alter MY venue of choice just because some douchebag doesnt understand that I came out to dance and that I have no interest in his number/dance/penis...... To put it simply ladies need to be clear and stick to their original intentions, and men need to learn that if she says no, you should have backed off the FIRST time.


If both sexes stuck to these rules, we wouldnt have any problems, but unfortunately, some people dont understand these concepts. Too many women teases and too many overly-agressive-men.




Ay star: I would never be afraid if I was out with you.....you would just go to your car and get the crobar


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