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I'm getting a Nord 2!!!!!!! =] =] =]

I can't take it anymore. For a good 4 years now I've been wanting a Nord (well really been going back and forth between a nord & virus indigo) and I ALWAYS talk myself out of getting one.

Usually for one of these reasons:

1. It's not going to make my music any better so why do I REALLY want one?
2. I don't really have money to be blowing like that.
3. What if I get it and find myself loathing a virus instead? what if I don't like the Nord or even worse WHAT IF I find myself never using it but using softsynths all the time just outta habit?

But recently I've been thinking this:
1. I've nevered owned a piece of hardware (except for a xiosynth but I consider that pretty far from "real" hardware lol).
2. With as much time as I've spent over the years making music, don't I kind of owe it to myself?
3. I'm not exactly "blowing" money. If worse comes to worse and for some reason I don't like it, I CAN just resell it again and take a minimal lost (as long as I don't hold onto it for too long).
4. More then anything I love trance and have been dreaming about a good synth day in and day out for a verrryy longggg time.

So fvck it, I'm getting one. Because money is an issue I'm gonna get a used rack of ebay I see one up there now for $650, should I wait to see if I can get it cheaper or does that sound right for a used Nord 2 rack?
And my last question, do I need anything else to run the Nord with FL? I just have a very basic set up, PC with Core2E7400, 500gb HD, 2Gb ram, FL Studio, xiosynth, alesis monitors and the rest vsts. Does the Nord connect via standard usb to my computer?

thanks guys I've never been this excited in my life!!! Just wanna get everything in check before I order it..

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox And my last question, do I need anything else to run the Nord with FL? I just have a very basic set up, PC with Core2E7400, 500gb HD, 2Gb ram, FL Studio, xiosynth, alesis monitors and the rest vsts. Does the Nord connect via standard usb to my computer?

The Nord units, like most MIDI synths, do not have a USB interface. USB interfaces on synths is quite a new feature, so don't expect to many synths to include them. Only Workstation synths, the LP and Virus have them AFAIK.

So you are going to need a MIDI interface of some kind (MOTU or M-Audio), and an audio interface with a free pair of stereo inputs. You do not mention your audio interface, so you'll need to ensure that it does have this. Also, when you pick out your MIDI interface, make sure you future proof by getting at least 2 in/2 out. Then you have another set of MIDI ports if you decide to add another hardware synth in the future.

You'll need a free USB port to connect the MIDI interface on your computer as well.

You'll need 2 MIDI cables and 2 male/male 1/4 inch audio cables of desired length.

Also, bear in mind that when using MIDI synths with most DAW software, there is going to be an inherent delay from the time you press a key to when you hear a sound. This is simply because its going to take a bit of time for the MIDI signal to go from your keyboard to the synth and for the synth to send the sound back to your audio interface. You may compensate for this using negative MIDI delay, but not all DAW software supports this. Also remember that even if your audio interface latency is 0, you'll still have this delay, so be prepared to compensate somehow.

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Originally posted by Eric J The Nord units, like most MIDI synths, do not have a USB interface. USB interfaces on synths is quite a new feature, so don't expect to many synths to include them. Only Workstation synths, the LP and Virus have them AFAIK. So you are going to need a MIDI interface of some kind (MOTU or M-Audio), and an audio interface with a free pair of stereo inputs. You do not mention your audio interface, so you'll need to ensure that it does have this. Also, when you pick out your MIDI interface, make sure you future proof by getting at least 2 in/2 out. Then you have another set of MIDI ports if you decide to add another hardware synth in the future. You'll need a free USB port to connect the MIDI interface on your computer as well. You'll need 2 MIDI cables and 2 male/male 1/4 inch audio cables of desired length. Also, bear in mind that when using MIDI synths with most DAW software, there is going to be an inherent delay from the time you press a key to when you hear a sound. This is simply because its going to take a bit of time for the MIDI signal to go from your keyboard to the synth and for the synth to send the sound back to your audio interface. You may compensate for this using negative MIDI delay, but not all DAW software supports this. Also remember that even if your audio interface latency is 0, you'll still have this delay, so be prepared to compensate somehow.

Ahh man the audio interface is gonna run me another few hundred isn't it? Had no idea a sound card wasn't sufficient enough. Is there anything else I can do about that or is it basically mandatory with a Nord? thanks

I honestly can't believe that you've been around on this site for as long as you have and you still don't understand that hardware synths need audio interfaces. Its pretty basic. "Does the nord connect via standard usb to your computer"?

Try buying a decent interface first and then think about a synth. And no, a new shiny hardware synth will not fix your problems with your songs.

And try learning to spell, "nevered"? Come on, how old are you?

PS
Get a nord 2x, the 2s aren't worth it.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Ahh man the audio interface is gonna run me another few hundred isn't it? Had no idea a sound card wasn't sufficient enough. Is there anything else I can do about that or is it basically mandatory with a Nord? thanks

Its mandatory for nearly every synth. As I said, USB is a very recent invention on synths, and the type of Total Integration you get on a Virus is unique. Even most workstation synths with USB interfaces do not stream the audio over USB. The audio is still sent out the audio outputs on the units. You must have an audio interface with a free set of stereo inputs, and keep in mind that yo are now getting into the territory where the quality of the interface comes into play. Cheap interfaces will use cheap analog to digital converters, which will affect the sound quality of the synth when it gets recorded into your computer. Its not horrible, but a mid range MOTU is going to have better converters than a cheap M-Audio.

Also, don't forget a MIDI interface. You'll need one of these as well, otherwise you'll have no way to control the synth short of playing it manually.

You should consider reading up on MIDI and standard MIDI hardware synths before diving into the purchase. There are a lot of things you may want to consider.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can impulse buy expensive stuff without even knowing how the stuff works and what they need for it.

Oh well, at least it's a wicked synth. I'm looking forward to getting one in the future too.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Ahh man the audio interface is gonna run me another few hundred isn't it? Had no idea a sound card wasn't sufficient enough.

what soundcard are you currently using?

get a virus snow, period

i promise beyond all promises you will benefit more from it.

#1 - No new audio interface is needed. It connects via USB for 3 parts. If you want to use it on more than 3 tracks at a time, you'll need the inputs, but since polyphony is limited, i wouldn't use it on more than 3 tracks personally.

Get a virus dude. Trust me. If you have a hard on for Nord sounds get Discovery Pro VST and save yourself some $$ and time.

Virus is not a Nord. And discovery isn't hardware which is likely what Robby is looking for.

FYI I have both Nord 2 and a Virus C. They've both got their pro's and cons but they're both really good to have either way. I prefer the Nord myself though.

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I honestly can't believe that you've been around on this site for as long as you have and you still don't understand that hardware synths need audio interfaces. Its pretty basic. "Does the nord connect via standard usb to your computer"?

QFT. This is really really dumb.

LOL. ALWAYS CLASSIC.

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley get a virus snow, period i promise beyond all promises you will benefit more from it. #1 - No new audio interface is needed. It connects via USB for 3 parts. If you want to use it on more than 3 tracks at a time, you'll need the inputs, but since polyphony is limited, i wouldn't use it on more than 3 tracks personally. Get a virus dude. Trust me. If you have a hard on for Nord sounds get Discovery Pro VST and save yourself some $$ and time.

Wow I see one right now for an even 1000 with the warranty. Ah man should I really do it? I'm gonna give myself a few more mins to decide.. no more delayn on this crap.

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Originally posted by kitphillips I honestly can't believe that you've been around on this site for as long as you have and you still don't understand that hardware synths need audio interfaces. Its pretty basic. "Does the nord connect via standard usb to your computer"? Try buying a decent interface first and then think about a synth. And no, a new shiny hardware synth will not fix your problems with your songs. And try learning to spell, "nevered"? Come on, how old are you? PS Get a nord 2x, the 2s aren't worth it.

Eat my ass you fvckn loser.
If your gonna insult me why bother leaving advice? You'll be the last person I listen to now dipshit

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Eat my ass you fvckn loser. If your gonna insult me why bother leaving advice? You'll be the last person I listen to now dipshit

I wasn't insulting you, just asking how anyone can be so ignorant when they've been on here over two years. In future I won't leave any advice for you.

Also, I think you'll find its spelt "Fuck" not fvck.

Maybe you should get a new computer monitor instead and pay Lolo for some lessons instead. Maybe he can help with that crappy sounding synth problem.

seems like you are quite unsure. I woul do a little more research till you are confident.

lol @ how robby comes in all excited that he's getting a Nord then is crushed to learn that connecting it to his computer is not as simple as he previously thought.

just get it. get it out of your system. then sell it when u discover u dont need it. ull never urge for a VA-synth again.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Eat my ass you fvckn loser. If your gonna insult me why bother leaving advice? You'll be the last person I listen to now dipshit

I am shocked I am the only person here telling you to get a Virus!!! Especially with you being so undecided. For those who have a Virus TI I guarantee 99% of them would never consider selling it. They are absolute work horses and so powerful man. Please, trust me, get a Virus TI. Get a snow or get a used desktop on ebay . They both go for around $1000. Check novamusik.com for a good snow price I believe they have a B stock of the snow for $999 but it may have been bought by now. I would advise you to get the desktop but the Snow is fine as well. It just depends on how hands on you are wanting to get. The snow is fairly hands on but the desktop is full blown hands on. With the Snow you can assign value parameters to three main things that you like plus still switch through the pages of editing for the respective menu you're on. The menu diving is the best it could be, and you get that even with the desktop. The desktop offers better things like hands on envelopes, effects, lfos, etc. With a snow you would have to assign what you want to edit to each value knob or control it with Virus Control (WHICH IS AMAZING) - Virus Control is a program that allows the Virus to behave like a VST. The virus TI and the VST plug work side-by-side. You can sit there and edit a patch using Virus Control AND the hands on parameter knobs at the same time! Virus Control also offers GREAT functionality for presets and you can easily grab over 10,000 presets. (I can send you them) - Trust me. We have chatted and I know what you like and with you lacking experience with hardware the Virus could not be a better machine to buy. Not only is it better than a Nord2X but it's going to be a much, much better first-buy hardware piece for you. Instead of having to fool around with an audio interface, delays, routing, more difficult part splitting, etc. With the Virus you simply plug it into a USB slot and BAM. With the Nord you'll need an audio interface with analog inputs, some TRS cables, and will have to learn the intricacies of routing with hardware (it can be very frustrating at times) - Now what I just listed before are things you need to learn about, but that can come at a later date.

Trust me. GET A VIRUS!!!!!

good thread this

fuck virus get nord rack 2x. it sounds better. now its time to put that conclusion in the stickies so we dont ever have to discuss it again, its atleast twice a month this Nord Lead vs Virus discussion comes up again.

Given that you don't have an audio or midi interface, I'd got for a Snow over a Nord. It'll be far less of a ballache for you to get working.

The TI is insanely easy to use. I really recommend it.

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley I am shocked I am the only person here telling you to get a Virus!!! Especially with you being so undecided. For those who have a Virus TI I guarantee 99% of them would never consider selling it. They are absolute work horses and so powerful man. Please, trust me, get a Virus TI. Get a snow or get a used desktop on ebay . They both go for around $1000. Check novamusik.com for a good snow price I believe they have a B stock of the snow for $999 but it may have been bought by now. I would advise you to get the desktop but the Snow is fine as well. It just depends on how hands on you are wanting to get. The snow is fairly hands on but the desktop is full blown hands on. With the Snow you can assign value parameters to three main things that you like plus still switch through the pages of editing for the respective menu you're on. The menu diving is the best it could be, and you get that even with the desktop. The desktop offers better things like hands on envelopes, effects, lfos, etc. With a snow you would have to assign what you want to edit to each value knob or control it with Virus Control (WHICH IS AMAZING) - Virus Control is a program that allows the Virus to behave like a VST. The virus TI and the VST plug work side-by-side. You can sit there and edit a patch using Virus Control AND the hands on parameter knobs at the same time! Virus Control also offers GREAT functionality for presets and you can easily grab over 10,000 presets. (I can send you them) - Trust me. We have chatted and I know what you like and with you lacking experience with hardware the Virus could not be a better machine to buy. Not only is it better than a Nord2X but it's going to be a much, much better first-buy hardware piece for you. Instead of having to fool around with an audio interface, delays, routing, more difficult part splitting, etc. With the Virus you simply plug it into a USB slot and BAM. With the Nord you'll need an audio interface with analog inputs, some TRS cables, and will have to learn the intricacies of routing with hardware (it can be very frustrating at times) - Now what I just listed before are things you need to learn about, but that can come at a later date. Trust me. GET A VIRUS!!!!!

Do you work for Access???

The guy wants a Nord - so leave him be, let him get it! Maybe he will get one, sell it and maybe some day he might buy a virus

Let him do what he wants, who are you to say a Virus is better than a Nord 2X???

i'd spend your nord money on anger management classes

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Originally posted by RichieV seems like you are quite unsure. I woul do a little more research till you are confident.

I agree. Robby, don't buy any synth unless you're 100% confident you know how it works.

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Originally posted by Ry Thomas i'd spend your nord money on anger management classes

Or just tone down the steroids...

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