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The Quality Gear Discussion Thread (Midi Controllers XONE 1D)
So my so called first original mixer i bought is starting to fall apart after 7 month of use.... the Behringer DDM4000 buttons are sticking in, knobs are about to fall off... Time for a new mixer
I know somebody who can sell me their RANE without the eq for fairly cheap so I consider it an option, from what I have heard I really liked the resonance on it, sounds pretty powerful by itself. Paired up with an Eq it comes out to about 1500$ or less...
One problem that I see with it is that you would need a special case for it, or rails, I am not really sure how it works, it would be pretty hard to move around without a case imo.
Now we take the Xone92. I only hear good things about it, 4band EQ, great sounding mixer, easy to take anywhere with you without a need for a case. plus it has 2 built in filters. A little on the pricier side - 1800$
My set up will be the mixer, traktor, timecoded cdjs and a Traktor KONTROL x1
I would like to know all the dirt on these 2 mixers since I know a lot of you have used them, at least the Xone92 for sure. And if you wanna recommend a better mixer for mixing techno/minimal tech I am open to suggestions 
i just got myself the rane with the eq expander. very nice. but you will def need something to put it in as the inputs are UNDERNEATH the units. you will either need to buy a rackmount, make a table to fit it in or something like this (http://www.guitarcenter.com/SKB-DJ-...996-i1150916.gc). if you look hard enough, you can get both for under 1500.
the xone 92 is another great choice. you can't go wrong, but 1800? you can get it at moog for 1500 (maybe 1600). i have the 62 and i realllllly like it. i actually prefer the eq's on it over the 92. and you can get it cheap.
do you want a rotary mixer or a linear mixer? because they're both very different. seems like you're comparing apples with oranges. i think for techno/minimal, the xone may be a better option, but that's just me.
if I get an xone I am going Linear, Rane I will go rotary(I don't think theres an option) I really liked the bass of the Rane, felt more powerful then xone
Rane all the way for me, no doubt about it.
The sound is better, more powerful and warmer. And you have more room for your fingers. I personally like the feel of rotary a lot more also, but not everybody will agree on that, specially the european DJs.
Behringer sucks ass.
they do make decent speakers/monitors/PA's for the price, but that is about it.
It really depends on how you mix. The Rane has better sound, (the 92 is not far behind), but if you mix aggressively the rotary knobs have s steeper curve.
You have not been doing this that long, so you don't need to worry about top of the line gear (they both are, although xone has better things on the horizon, and also have rotary options available..) unless you are 100% sure that this kind of money is something that is not a problem.
If you really wanted top line rotary gear check out Urei products as they put (in my opinion) Rane to shame. The internet is way better than Moog. use moog to try and internet to buy. I use a Korg Zero 8 that i got for almost 25% less than moog offered by doing research
also mixing without eqs is a completely different ball game (depends on your style)...try it a few times first before breaking the bank
why did you buy cdj's for traktor? control vinyls > cdjs imo
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| Originally posted by Schadenfreude Behringer sucks ass. |
in my opinion.. if you want a techno mixer, go for Vestax
sfini carl cox, although i know you must have raped that mixer haki bought off louis
the kills the kills.
@princesultan...what model for fun? I'll peep it next time i'm near moog
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| Originally posted by Schadenfreude sfini carl cox, although i know you must have raped that mixer haki bought off louis the kills the kills. @princesultan...what model for fun? I'll peep it next time i'm near moog |
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| Originally posted by Schadenfreude sfini carl cox, although i know you must have raped that mixer haki bought off louis the kills the kills. @princesultan...what model for fun? I'll peep it next time i'm near moog |
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| Originally posted by Schadenfreude why did you buy cdj's for traktor? control vinyls > cdjs imo |
i fell in love with the Rane mixer when I started to play at Overdose @ Parking a couple of years ago. It's my favorite mixer and it's a good thing they have it a Circus !
The Pioneer DJM 800 isn't that bad either, but completely different. But I don't know... The Rane makes your mixing more fluid... I just love it.
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| Originally posted by Ravemontreal He might as well get used to CDJs control because you won't find any turntables in club when he will start having gigs. and Freak is right, Rane or Xone are expensive equipement for home use, do you really need such high quality? |
i love both mixers
the 2016 is super dope and so is the 92 rotary...
rotary all the way!!!
I agree, rotary all the way!
Well if you can afford it than go for it ;-) Rane is a solid piece of equipement.
:-( I miss my:
this is the best thread in mtlta in at least a year
@zeskg the urei comment was a bit of a joke that ravemontreal got...if it is for home use it is big time gear that you do not really need.
as far as control vinyls vs cdj for traktor (i use serato now but they are sort of similar) the vinyl is so much better to move through. I think zeskgs has 800's and the platter is decent, but it is nowhere near the control vinyls (i tried my 800 with serato before it broke last month...i wanted to sell it).
you are probably right about the gigging thing martin, as i don't gig...that being said it is a shame that there is no decks in clubs anymore, because i find that the nest music i buy is still vinyl only...that being said, the price it costs me to ship it to canada might make me slightly biased
about behringer zeskg , they are great pieces of start out kit, but have zero durabilty and their mixers can be compared to denon cdjs...just a few months for basic use and in the garbage. You really get what you pay for.
@psultan...thanks
creator, i miss that mixer too ! i loved to play on it at aria 
and btw princessultan...i've only tried many of these mixers so my opinions can not be in depth.
I love my korg, the internal sound card is a bit shit, but 8 channels is win. The one mixer i never really liked (well more than one) is anything djm. The lay out and the feel of it just made mixing more difficult to me.
only my opinion of course.
zeskg.
you could get a 32 at home, and it would last you for years....you would save a lot of dough and if you play a club with the 92 the learning curve is near 0
i disagree about certain mixers being overkill for home use. i enjoy getting a new mixer using it for a bit and then selling it only to replace it with something else. i guess you can say i like collecting different mixers, lol.
i think we've discussed this before, but i've heard that the korg's have some sort of hissing sound???
i only got it a few months in but a firmware update fixed it. I got it before it came out here because i bought it with a group of people and we saved by cutting out the middle man....the sound card is still suspect, but either way i love it. I did change the knobs for metal ones that i found on the net, because they were smallish.
the rest of it is awesome and the latency is superb.
ok ok next topic...pre amps....GO!
then we can do cartridges for those of us that still buy records.
i have a boner
<3
and you need to be careful if you buy gear with the intention of use for re selling because if it is proven not to be competent you could very well take a big loss on your original investment.
this thread should be changes to gear whores unite!
isn't it beautiful?
when i mix in the dark i fel like darth vader.
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| Originally posted by Schadenfreude and you need to be careful if you buy gear with the intention of use for re selling because if it is proven not to be competent you could very well take a big loss on your original investment. this thread should be changes to gear whores unite! |
Well it's never overkill if you have lots of money,
but you really only feel that much difference in sound quality when you play loud on a big sound system. When it comes to playing loud, pioneer 800 sounds like shit, and Xone as nothing on the Rane (or the Urei).
At home I had a little Vestax PMC 25 and loved it. Very affordable (but discontinued)
As for vinyls, I always bring my timecode vinyls with me in all clubs, nobody as them. I would love to go back and play with them again, but clubs turntables are often in very bad condition, they never have needles (if so they are old and crappy). Plus playing turntables in a club environment is more risky, as it can skip a lot more, and skip + software = you are screwed.
if you want to sell the nuo 2 i am thinking of getting my godson a mixer for christmas....sure he plays shit music, but it is cool when he comes over to my place and really freaks out at electronics.
i'm not sure if he is into it enough, but what godfather would not force his will on his godson...marlon brando would;p
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