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Japan, what happened?

Once, you were the land of badasses. In this land were samurais, seppukus, ninjas, and kamikazes. Now educated women scare you?

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The sensitive New Age man has finally arrived in the land of the salaryman. But there is a catch � a particularly important one in Japan, where the declining birthrate has caused alarm: The new Japanese man doesn't appear to be interested in women or sex.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/...816&sc=fb&cc=fp

So, what's exactly new about it?

Japanese culture is fucked. Stereotypes die hard but changes in popular social culture are never ending, so people end up doing things they like only to feel like the collective opinion of them is bad and that they are not worthy.

Things like the herbivore men are probably as not wide spread as they seem from the media reporting in the US. There is a major issue though with low birth rates in the country and a rapidly rising aged population. There is also reports (can't remember the source, it was CNN a couple years ago I believe) that a growing percentage of all Japanese youth feel disaffected by their culture and are actually in some circumstance becoming angry about it.

You can see some of this change affecting their elections, the LDP was defeated for the first time in a major way since the end of WW2. Essentially up to that point Japan was a one party system for all intents and purposes. The LDP was a good old boys club that generally was steeped in its cultural view of Japanese society, which included strong, almost fascist ties to business. Now you have more varied parties (though they are LDP spin-offs) coming into power. This is a big change. These miniority parties for the most part have been touting reform since the bubble burst at the end of the 1980s.

Anyway, this comes back to Japanese youth. One of my brothers host brothers is a very conservative Japanese young male. His idea of a perfect life is to get out of college, doesn't matter what, and join his fathers company as a salary man. He then will get a wife and have kids. That is his goal, that seems fine sort of, but really its the rigidity of the plans. He says that is what he has wanted for as long as he can remember, he also bashes anyone who does not subscribe to this view, or most any of his other views as not being Japanese Mainstream.

So yea, Japan is funky. But man they are makin some cool robots.

10 years ago my friend in HS had an experiment with a porn site. Japanese users came in as #2 with the most hits behind US.

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Originally posted by Scottaculous 10 years ago my friend in HS had an experiment with a porn site. Japanese users came in as #2 with the most hits behind US.

Maybe that's because those were the two countries with most internet users in the 90's?

I guess Japan too must have lots of conservative columnists whining away about changing notions of gender and what it means to be masculine. We have more than enough of that here in the U.S.

I say we invade.

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Originally posted by Acton I say we invade.

Best pic evar

Nothing new to me.

Been to Korea to see my family. Men with "Man Bags" walking around with their skinny tight jeans. Waving off their epic "Super Sayain" hair.

Also you need some very fashionable glasses.

I was befouled by my nation route to complet metrosexuality.

BLERERRRRRHHHGGGGG

Sorry i just puked.

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He works for an Internet service provider and operates Sweets Club, an online group for men who like desserts. Set up in January, it already has about 1,000 members who congregate � online and in person � to debate the virtues of different brands of strawberry shortcake.

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Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine

To be honest that sounds bad ass, well the eating part.

I fucking love strawberry shortcake, actually anything with strawberrys in it...

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Japanese culture is fucked. Stereotypes die hard but changes in popular social culture are never ending, so people end up doing things they like only to feel like the collective opinion of them is bad and that they are not worthy. Things like the herbivore men are probably as not wide spread as they seem from the media reporting in the US. There is a major issue though with low birth rates in the country and a rapidly rising aged population. There is also reports (can't remember the source, it was CNN a couple years ago I believe) that a growing percentage of all Japanese youth feel disaffected by their culture and are actually in some circumstance becoming angry about it. You can see some of this change affecting their elections, the LDP was defeated for the first time in a major way since the end of WW2. Essentially up to that point Japan was a one party system for all intents and purposes. The LDP was a good old boys club that generally was steeped in its cultural view of Japanese society, which included strong, almost fascist ties to business. Now you have more varied parties (though they are LDP spin-offs) coming into power. This is a big change. These miniority parties for the most part have been touting reform since the bubble burst at the end of the 1980s. Anyway, this comes back to Japanese youth. One of my brothers host brothers is a very conservative Japanese young male. His idea of a perfect life is to get out of college, doesn't matter what, and join his fathers company as a salary man. He then will get a wife and have kids. That is his goal, that seems fine sort of, but really its the rigidity of the plans. He says that is what he has wanted for as long as he can remember, he also bashes anyone who does not subscribe to this view, or most any of his other views as not being Japanese Mainstream. So yea, Japan is funky. But man they are makin some cool robots.

lol did you copy/paste this from an online article or something? and have you ever even been to japan?

"Nowadays, women have more education and enjoy working. Women are scary now," he says.

This made me

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Originally posted by Scottaculous "Nowadays, women have more education and enjoy working. Women are scary now," he says. And, of course, there is a name, too, for the economically empowered working Japanese women who know what they want: the carnivore women.

Haha. All those educated women with high expectations and aspirations running around. Absolutely terrifying!

Japanese women just can't compete with the largest porn producer in the world. Japan.

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Originally posted by Krypton Japanese women just can't compete with the largest porn producer in the world. Japan.

Isn't Hungary up there too?

Re: Japan, what happened?

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Originally posted by Scottaculous Once, you were the land of badasses.

Yeah Japanese society has some very fucked parts. Hikikomori is the first thing that comes to my mind:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/15/m...15japanese.html

However, Japan also has incredibly low rates of crime, poverty and social delinquency when compared with Western nations.

I think it's because Japan's incredible societal pressure prevents people from typical delinquency but pushes them towards other strange outlets, like anime fetishism et cetera.

I honestly feel bad for Japanese kids. They're under such enormous pressure. An old family friend has been living in Japan for a few years now, teaching English. The kids are constantly working on school, getting hardly any sleep, and after school it's homework, homework, homework. After they finish school they basically are married to a corporation. They spend so much time at work, it's basically a family for them. No wonder lot's of them are getting annoyed and looking at new things.

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Originally posted by Domesticated Yeah Japanese society has some very fucked parts. Hikikomori is the first thing that comes to my mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/15/m...15japanese.html However, Japan also has incredibly low rates of crime, poverty and social delinquency when compared with Western nations. I think it's because Japan's incredible societal pressure prevents people from typical delinquency but pushes them towards other strange outlets, like anime fetishism et cetera.

Sounds like a World of Warcraft player..

Hikikomori (ひきこもり or 引き籠もり Hikikomori?, lit. "pulling away, being confined", i.e., "acute social withdrawal") is a Japanese term to refer to the phenomenon of reclusive individuals who have chosen to withdraw from social life, often seeking extreme degrees of isolation and confinement because of various personal and social factors in their lives.....the Japanese Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare defines hikikomori as individuals who refuse to leave their parents' house, and isolate themselves from society in their homes for a period exceeding six months.

NEET anyone
i suggest watching Welcome to the NHK
for a good laugh. really insightful

but not all japanese are pussies.

NSFW




and if you have time they have the whole movie in Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2a-...ex=0&playnext=1

NS period.

Shit like Ichi the killer is made by japanese weirdos who are the equiv of the faggy goth kids you knew in high school.


I could go ask a real Jap, my brothers girlfriend is in the living room.

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