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Posted by owien on Nov-26-2009 01:49:

just a general question to the music community and the dj's

"what do you look for in a track"?


i was wondering mainly because as someone who makes tunes i often go for the personal approach.

i.e good basslines and riffs ect ect, i'm Crious as to what my peers look for is it the same or not.

or is it just about plucks and saw leads?


Posted by Domesticated on Nov-26-2009 01:52:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...19&referrerid=2


Posted by Guest on Nov-26-2009 01:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...19&referrerid=2


In regards to your original post in that link, I know exactly what you mean. For me its percussion. Especially if I'm wasted. Its almost like the only thing I hear is the mids. Bongos, anything metallic. The bongo's in Danny Howells' remix of "Waiting For You" are a great example. I could listen to that loop forever...the longer it repeats the more I get sucked in.


Posted by Domesticated on Nov-26-2009 01:59:

It's a hard question to answer, really. I look for all different things depending on genre and mood. I mean, you don't look for the same pleasing elements in deep house as you would psy-trance. Is there a specific genre you're thinking of?


Posted by Domesticated on Nov-26-2009 02:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
In regards to your original post in that link, I know exactly what you mean. For me its percussion. Especially if I'm wasted. Its almost like the only thing I hear is the mids. Bongos, anything metallic. The bongo's in Danny Howells' remix of "Waiting For You" are a great example. I could listen to that loop forever...the longer it repeats the more I get sucked in.


http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...=1&referrerid=2


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-26-2009 02:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...19&referrerid=2


Not really the same question.

Although there are plenty of exceptions to this, what I generally look for in dance music is a combination of rhythm and atmosphere. Tracks that are all groove are good to dance to, but rarely interesting to listen to, while tracks that have great ambience but no groove are good for the head while rarely exciting for the body. The dance music that really interests me is the stuff that hits that middle spot where you can just listen to it stone cold sober and it works just as well as in a club when you're mashed. I'm a massive sucker for music you can describe as "cinematic".


Posted by owien on Nov-26-2009 02:16:

thoe i'm guessing a dj must go about choosing tracks in a different way most will look at tracks as tools and save some cool shit for the end.

its just interesting how some people go for the drums whilst other go for key changes and basslines.

a track could have all those things so does that mean then they only like one area in that track and ignore the rest?


Posted by Domesticated on Nov-26-2009 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Not really the same question.

Although there are plenty of exceptions to this, what I generally look for in dance music is a combination of rhythm and atmosphere. Tracks that are all groove are good to dance to, but rarely interesting to listen to, while tracks that have great ambience but no groove are good for the head while rarely exciting for the body. The dance music that really interests me is the stuff that hits that middle spot where you can just listen to it stone cold sober and it works just as well as in a club when you're mashed. I'm a massive sucker for music you can describe as "cinematic".


I know, that's why I attempted to answer the question properly another two posts down. Surprisingly, your post actually explained something that I was unable to articulate myself. I have a penchant for danceable music too, but it needs to have a certain amount of detail and complexity. That's exactly the same 'middle spot' that you're referring to.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-26-2009 02:18:

Individual elements are just means to an end.


Posted by owien on Nov-26-2009 02:24:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Not really the same question.

Although there are plenty of exceptions to this, what I generally look for in dance music is a combination of rhythm and atmosphere. Tracks that are all groove are good to dance to, but rarely interesting to listen to, while tracks that have great ambience but no groove are good for the head while rarely exciting for the body. The dance music that really interests me is the stuff that hits that middle spot where you can just listen to it stone cold sober and it works just as well as in a club when you're mashed. I'm a massive sucker for music you can describe as "cinematic".
yeah i agree here a track that can be played at any time or place and still make a impact is pretty awsome stuff.
and hard to find and make i'm guessing to.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Nov-26-2009 02:39:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsPunA3vAYE


Posted by Guest on Nov-26-2009 02:51:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Not really the same question.

Although there are plenty of exceptions to this, what I generally look for in dance music is a combination of rhythm and atmosphere. Tracks that are all groove are good to dance to, but rarely interesting to listen to, while tracks that have great ambience but no groove are good for the head while rarely exciting for the body. The dance music that really interests me is the stuff that hits that middle spot where you can just listen to it stone cold sober and it works just as well as in a club when you're mashed. I'm a massive sucker for music you can describe as "cinematic".


I think you and I have discussed this before when I made a thread awhile back, but this one is a great example backing what you just said. People need to hear this


Posted by Lews on Nov-26-2009 06:22:

303's are awesome. Tribal drums kick ass. No supersaw is always nice. Organic sounding stuff is amazing.

I don't know about production to know what I like, but I know what I like when I hear it.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Nov-26-2009 06:37:

sasha - wavy gravy.


Posted by DEAD_MOOSE on Nov-26-2009 11:11:

so you intend on changing your musical style based on what a few internet kids say? pointless thread.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Nov-26-2009 13:48:

i just look for tracks with samples that "stick" (aka stand out). It does not always matter if a track is not an instant classic. Sometimes if they are a little on the empty or boring side, those samples that i liked will still be able to be used to layer in sets.

I look at the Dinky release on Wagon Repair (bought the whole album). Some tracks are really cool albeit not the kind of stuff that i would usually play. The samples are awesome in all of them though, and with the help of something else they can add a little originality to a dj set.


Posted by DJSoulstone on Nov-26-2009 14:26:

I especially look for tracks that I call the perfect "fillers". They are so rare that it is a real pain in the ass to find them. I mean tracks that on the one hand have as little break down as possible and not too much change of structure within, but on the other hand keep the energy level on a high entrancing level.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-26-2009 14:31:

+1 on fillers.


Posted by Clovis on Nov-26-2009 14:43:

I don't know


Posted by Guest on Nov-26-2009 15:00:

quote:
Originally posted by DEAD_MOOSE
so you intend on changing your musical style based on what a few internet kids say? pointless thread.



lol you're the classic internet jackass


Posted by DEAD_MOOSE on Nov-26-2009 16:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
lol you're the classic internet jackass


you have a nice smile bro. a real looker


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Nov-26-2009 18:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
lol you're the classic internet jackass

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=543130
quote:
Originally posted by DEAD_MOOSE
i suppose im sour because im an artistic thinker who requires a bit more gear than i can afford (being artistic and a bit deep means i struggle to stick with a dead end job like office work)...shame most grumpy bastards tend to be pidgeon holed into the failure / loser category by the happy go lucky numb nuts who fit in so well in our boring modern society....shame most grumpy bastards tend to be pidgeon holed into the failure / loser category by the happy go lucky numb nuts who fit in so well in our boring modern society...im guessing you are one of these pen pusher types who desperately tries to be a deep thinker and a musician. problems is, you will never be one and you know it. this must be why my topic offends you so much.

The man is a deep-thinking artiste who finds himself unable to fit into boring modern society, Mark. Give him a break!


Posted by Stef on Nov-26-2009 18:54:

Simon Patterson � Taxi (Original Mix)


Posted by nefardec on Nov-26-2009 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Individual elements are just means to an end.



i agree

when i listen to music, what affects me is the kind of total image or emotional universe that it contains. (i guess 'vibe' is the typical word for this)

i might really like specific parts in a track, but what I really listen to when I am enjoying music or buying, what i really am drawn towards is that big picture.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-26-2009 19:32:

then just say so
"my favorite element is big pictures"


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