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Posted by RichieV on Dec-02-2009 15:00:

ADD and focus

I have 2 projects(starting in the new year) coming up and I am wondering if anyone has had success with staying focus for long periods of time. The last project I did required a daily dosage of adderall to meet the time restraints (14 hour days) and I got really anxious. Unfortunately the type of work does not allow the freedom to work slower.

Looking for some tips to stay focus without having to rely on amphetamines or coffee. I have heard about a new drug for add called stratera. Has anyone with ADD had success with it ?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-02-2009 15:12:

Modafinil is a stimulant but has much less of the typical amphetamine jitters. People who go through concentration-critical situations (law enforcement, pilots) take it to enhance focus and stave off fatigue.


Posted by offensive_newbi on Dec-02-2009 19:19:

strattera is ineffective, i recommend adderall or dexedrine or other amphetamines!!


Posted by Subtle on Dec-02-2009 19:26:

Cannabis works.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-02-2009 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Cannabis works.

I think it would make me way too loopy and slow to do any kind of involved production.


Posted by RichieV on Dec-02-2009 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by offensive_newbi
strattera is ineffective, i recommend adderall or dexedrine or other amphetamines!!


like i said before, they make me way too anxious and I don't want to have to balance it out with xanax. I'm not looking for specific medical solution. It can be anything that works for others that have ADD.


Posted by owien on Dec-02-2009 21:01:

for me a project takes a good month to compleate i'm now the 3rd week in so not long left.
to make a track from a blank page is hard going so i've learned it's best to plan shit out dont be affraid to leave it alone for a day or two to keep things fresh.

dont pay to much attention to one thing because this can kill the work flow dead.

by having a set type of formate can help,laying/mapping things out can stop you from losing sight.

if there is any one part of the project you like then render that part to wav and open a new instant of ya daw load the wav file and play around with it and see what you get out of it that way you wont mess up the main project if things dont work for you

good luck


Posted by SGL on Dec-02-2009 21:05:

smoke a spliff an hour or two prior and you'll be fine. It's better then taking pills on an almost daily basis.


Posted by parafrNalia on Dec-02-2009 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by SGL
smoke a spliff an hour or two prior and you'll be fine. It's better then taking pills on an almost daily basis.


How do you figure that will help you focus any more?

Makes me lose focus more than anything.


Posted by Beatflux on Dec-03-2009 00:00:

5 Hour Energy?

I hear kids take it to play videogames into the night.


Posted by TVG on Dec-03-2009 02:29:

Ask on mindandmuscle.net for good answers

A lot of people solve your situation by changing dosing and drug (e.g from Adderall XR to Vyvanse).

If there was ever a dose that worked for you, but doesn't anymore, you there are chemical ways to get back down to that dose.

If you have something like GAD, you basically have to fix that problem before the ADD. If that's the case you should go on clonazepam for a few months and try to fix your thought patterns. Might want to try every SSRI/SNRI until you find one that is effective as well.


Posted by DJ RANN on Dec-03-2009 02:44:

Re: ADD and focus

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
I have 2 projects(starting in the new year) coming up and I am wondering if anyone has had success with staying focus for long periods of time. The last project I did required a daily dosage of adderall to meet the time restraints (14 hour days) and I got really anxious. Unfortunately the type of work does not allow the freedom to work slower.

Looking for some tips to stay focus without having to rely on amphetamines or coffee. I have heard about a new drug for add called stratera. Has anyone with ADD had success with it ?


Well Richie I think I know what type of projects you mean - are you out this way for them? Let me know.....

(As you know) I have to do those hours for extended periods. TBH, there's no easy fix to this and I'd suggest just staying away from any stimulants altogether - it just is a false economy in the long run, you always end up paying in some other way and when you crash, you crash HARD. If that comes at the wrong time it can fuck your deadline.

The best advice I can give after having done this for a while now, is to make sure when you do sleep, you sleep deep, as long as possible and uninterrupted.

During DK, that made a huge a difference - the days I didn't get sleep were a pain but honestly after the second week you get used to it.

DON"T TAKE SLEEPERS TO DO IT. My new secret weapon is high strength melatonin. Doesn't fuck you up in the day, no grogginess, and calms you before sleep, even if your head is spinning (which I often have after 16 hours in front of protools).


Posted by Domesticated on Dec-03-2009 05:30:

As JBJ mentioned, Modafinil would be your best bet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil

I can't be bothered typing it all out, but it is a great drug. It has low abuse potential, few side effects and is very effective. In initial tests a few years ago, monkeys were given it after 48 hours of sleep deprivation and performed better in tests than the monkeys which had slept and not been given the drug.


Posted by hexadecimal on Dec-03-2009 07:21:

You need to take all the drugs you can find.

p.s. wut drogs i nead 2 take 2 sound liek tiatso?


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-03-2009 07:27:

quote:
Originally posted by hexadecimal
p.s. wut drogs i nead 2 take 2 sound liek tiatso?

MDMA. Lots and lots of it.


Posted by Lolo on Dec-03-2009 08:01:

don't do this if you don't want to suffer from side-fx.

I'll give you one tip. Focus on learning how to do things faster for a few days, then go back to your work.

Music gym of all kinds (sound-design, playing skills, production tricks, softsynth trickery) happens here almost weekly. If you repeat stuff over and over again, you'll get faster.

What I'd suggest instead of ADD... and it's free.


Posted by Lews on Dec-03-2009 08:06:

Vyvanse fucked me over when I got off it =/


Posted by RichieV on Dec-03-2009 15:23:

seems like modafynil is more for staying awake. I manage that ok, it is just focusing without always interrupting myself with the internet or books or going to the store. I used to be able to discipline myself but i'm having trouble the last few years.


Posted by Domesticated on Dec-03-2009 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
seems like modafynil is more for staying awake. I manage that ok, it is just focusing without always interrupting myself with the internet or books or going to the store. I used to be able to discipline myself but i'm having trouble the last few years.


Modafinil increases memory and concentration too.

Do you actually have ADD? I don't have ADD and I struggle with distracting myself irrespective of what I'm doing. I had an exam a few weeks ago and I was posting on here four hours before sitting it because I couldn't force myself to study.


Posted by kadomony on Dec-04-2009 10:21:

Modafinil will also make you question why you've been awake for 10 hours after you normally go to bed.

Good for after hours, but you'll definitely hit a point where you question whether you should really be awake


Posted by mysticalninja on Dec-05-2009 05:58:

Marijuana's active ingredient, THC, is a cannabinoid. Your brain produces a cannabinoid naturally called Anandamide. Anandamide is involved with working memory and the deciding of which memories are necessary to store. So no, smoking weed will not increase your concentration. It will cause the part of your brain that discards "unnecessary" memories to work over time.


Posted by AstroB on Dec-05-2009 06:21:

quote:

Do you actually have ADD? I don't have ADD and I struggle with distracting myself irrespective of what I'm doing. I had an exam a few weeks ago and I was posting on here four hours before sitting it because I couldn't force myself to study.


Well just because you were never diagnosed with ADD doesnt mean you dont have it! I went back to school this last year to major in physical therapy, which I really didn't want to do, but its a good career and good money. When I got into the boring medical anatomy stuff, I had a huge problem just staying awake when the teacher was talking. Even though the other people sitting around me (who were mostly medical students) loved hearing about that stuff. I finally switched majors cause I kept falling asleep every time I tried to study for the tests and just could not get interested in it or force myself to study much. Now I am doing something that pays less, but I like it, so I can study it no problem.


Posted by kadomony on Dec-05-2009 07:25:

quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
Your brain produces a cannabinoid naturally called Anandamide.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananda

hah, cool.


Posted by Kismet7 on Dec-05-2009 07:53:

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Excercise and Video Games i'd imagine would help a bit.

Execercise opens up the blood vessels in the brain, gets circulation going, and perhaps motivation.

And videogames refine concentration a bit.

Consult your physician.


Posted by Evolve140 on Dec-10-2009 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
Marijuana's active ingredient, THC, is a cannabinoid. Your brain produces a cannabinoid naturally called Anandamide. Anandamide is involved with working memory and the deciding of which memories are necessary to store. So no, smoking weed will not increase your concentration. It will cause the part of your brain that discards "unnecessary" memories to work over time.


That sounds scientific. To be able to figure out if cannabis helps someone's concentrate based on this is ludicrous, however. Those who are familiar with the drug itself know that the effects vary dramatically from person to person, and from strain to strain. There are strains of indica I could smoke which would render me useless in the studio, but I know of some staiva or hybrids that glue me to the computer and I can't stop working on music. I'm actually only commenting on this because I do not work without cannabis. Typically when I work on something I want to "dive in", and not be bothered. When I am working on music, it is the only thing that I seem to notice or care about, and in part I can thank cannabis for that.

The notion that smoking cannabis will instantly improve your focus is absurb, and reinforces the idea behind the fact that people's understanding of this drug is half-witted at best. The reason I can use cannabis to help me focus is because I have used it nearly every day for over 5 years, and my brain has developed to be used to it and I can expect what it does. If someone smokes weed and they aren't experienced, they will just geek out and eat junk food. But the statement "It will cause the part of your brain that discards "unnecessary" memories to work over time" is quite laughable and a wild assumption.

Also, there are 40 or more other active psychoactive ingredients and they are all cannabinoids, THC is popularized as the main ingredient but it has no bearing.


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