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Posted by djnitride on Dec-03-2009 15:50:

What kind of power do I need to play small parties, but still rock it?

I want to put together a sound system to play pretty small parties (50-100 person house parties / field parties etc)

Im pretty retarded when it comes to sound, but basically I want the full spectrum of high/mid frequencies to be clear and loud, with pretty kicking bass.

I want to be able to play anything from dubstep to ambient and have it sound loud and clear.

I have never had to provide the actual sound equipment before (Last time the system I used had "earthquakes", kindof an overkill lol), is there a good starter setup anyone can recommend?

Thanks.


Posted by miamitranceman on Dec-03-2009 18:08:

Look for some deals on some used JBL EON 15s (Active) if you don't wanna spend that much.

Also, check out the Behringer B215As. They're cheap, loud and clear. I have one and highly recommend it. Behringer is crap with their DJ gear but their speakers are excellent.


Because you said field parties (which I assume you mean are outdoors) I wouldn't go with any studio monitors or anything like that. PAs all the way.

Look at those B215s (or even the B212s which are smaller).


Posted by woscar on Dec-03-2009 18:13:

What gear will you be playing with?


Posted by djnitride on Dec-03-2009 18:41:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
What gear will you be playing with?


Right now I just have a VDJ setup (and yes I can beatmatch, lol)

Traktor Pro 3
Numark Total Control (RIP VCI-100)
Numark djio (RCA Out, with converters to every input imaginable)
Sony MDR 7506 for monitor


Posted by Nemesis44 on Dec-03-2009 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by djnitride
Right now I just have a VDJ setup (and yes I can beatmatch, lol)



Nothing to be ashamed of, I use it at home these days as my daughter has taken over the studio and too much technology around a 2 year old is not a good idea.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Teezdalien on Dec-04-2009 05:18:

quote:
Originally posted by djnitride
Right now I just have a VDJ setup (and yes I can beatmatch, lol)

Traktor Pro 3
Numark Total Control (RIP VCI-100)
Numark djio (RCA Out, with converters to every input imaginable)
Sony MDR 7506 for monitor


What happened to your VCI-100?


Posted by Lews on Dec-04-2009 05:33:

quote:
Originally posted by djnitride

Numark djio (RCA Out, with converters to every input imaginable)


How's that working for you? I'm tempted to get one but no one's told me anything about it


Posted by tamtui on Dec-07-2009 10:12:

Drunk Qsc all the way

IMO

The qsc k series pa speakers are the way to go. Light and powerful.

Check out some reviews on them.

I bought these straight away after listening to them.


Posted by djsaekone on Dec-07-2009 19:53:

I use a powered mixer with some Yamaha BR12 speakers. Pretty good. I think for that size of party you need at least a 300w powered mixer

Something like this:



or you could get an amp...im only familiar with these types of powered mixers though. Hope it helps.

--Peace


Posted by djnitride on Dec-07-2009 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Teezdalien
What happened to your VCI-100?


My friend spilled a drink on it lol, he gave me some money to compensate to its all good. I liked it as a mixer though, alot better than my Total Control. Main complaint is the tiny range of the pitch shifters... not very sensitive BPM wise, sometimes I cant get closer than 0.01 BPM up/down to the song im mixing in, which annoys me greatly, even with Traktor using 8% mode. And there is nothing more I hate than fucking with the jog wheels to keep two songs nicely in sync.... I want to beatmatch and just be done with it!


quote:
Originally posted by Lews
How's that working for you? I'm tempted to get one but no one's told me anything about it



Its been great.... IMO I have no need for anything with more features, has all the stuff I need to play a gig:

Two L/R RCA outputs, one main, one monitor
Mic input (1/4")
Headphone monitor output (1/4")

Sound quality and latency seem very good to me! Seems to get along with traktor very well, running it all on Windows 7 . Its nice and light, can just toss it in the laptop bag. Its also survived one gig with heavy dew falling on it, seems to be decently durable considering its made out of plastic.


I think I may get a pair of the Behringer B212A speakers... one question though, what is the main advantage of 15" woofers over 12"?


Posted by DjWoody on Dec-07-2009 21:07:

I used to do mobile, and now I do sound at my club. Honestly, stay away from JBL EON'S. Unless you get the new ones, the old grey ones sucked.

Passive Speakers (Ones you need an amp for) will usually sound better and louder than Powered Speakers. However, they're also bulkier and heavier. So the first question you gotta ask your self. Passive vs Powered?

If you choose Passive, the combinations are endless.

If you want powered, depends on what budget you are. I heard the B52 Matrix 1000 the other day and I was surprised how good these sound. Honestly, I never expected that good of a sound from a B52 system.

However, my first choice would be JBL PRX Series. Those kick ass and have more bass than the QSC K Series. However, there's a trade off. JBL's are bigger than the QSC's. That's my second choice, QSC K Series.

My 3rd choice would be the Mackies SRM speakers. They're good, but you need a sub for bass.

Lastly, if you really got money to blow, you can get a powered FUNKTION ONE RESOLUTION 2 speakers. They'll set you back about $2500-$3000 each. lol But they're perfect for EDM events. I actually considered buying some of these, but I think they're an overkill for my gigs.


Posted by miamitranceman on Dec-07-2009 21:45:

Good luck lugging around that sub from the Matrix system though. It's heavy as sh!t!


Posted by djnitride on Mar-29-2010 15:48:

I ended up getting a pair of Behringer EUROLIVE B212D... hopefully they will be enough to rock a small sized house


Posted by miamitranceman on Mar-29-2010 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by djnitride
I ended up getting a pair of Behringer EUROLIVE B212D... hopefully they will be enough to rock a small sized house


Sweet. I think those are pretty similar to the 212As. Should be enough but if not then for not really that much more you could always up it to the 215s.


Posted by djnitride on Mar-29-2010 23:30:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
Sweet. I think those are pretty similar to the 212As. Should be enough but if not then for not really that much more you could always up it to the 215s.


Yep, and I can always use them as monitors later on .

If I get bigger speakers, I am getting passives and a mixer, subs etc.

Thanks for the advice everyone


Posted by discobiscuit on Mar-30-2010 21:59:

powered jbl eons or powered mackie srm450s

i use the mackies


Posted by jupiterone on Mar-31-2010 05:23:

you need 1000 jiggawatts


Posted by mehta on Apr-02-2010 03:22:

whatever you end up getting, get a sub as well as tops - it really helps to separate the bass from the mids & tops

powered speakers are much easier to set up & harder to destroy


Posted by djnitride on Apr-02-2010 03:41:

quote:
Originally posted by mehta
whatever you end up getting, get a sub as well as tops - it really helps to separate the bass from the mids & tops

powered speakers are much easier to set up & harder to destroy


Im planning on getting subs when I get a hardware mixer.

Do I need a "low pass filter" to get the most out of a sub?


Posted by mehta on Apr-03-2010 06:56:

nope. most decent subs have an adjustable filter.

good luck with your soundsystem! the behringer tops are a fine start



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