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Posted by chewy dragee on Dec-04-2009 06:37:

Beats of teh crap

How do you guys transition between tracks with a really crappy bassline to something that's really smooth precise?

What I mean since that might not be very clear very clear is this.

Sometimes you get a track with a very dirty beat, sounding almost like

BBoomgh BBoomgh BBoomgh

When you do a transition with a track with a very clean beat:

Boom Boom

It sometimes sounds like the beats are drifting, even though they are not. If you are beatmatched perfectly you get:

BBoomgh BBoomgh BBoomgh

But it's usually more like this :

BBBoommgh BBBoommgh BBBoommgh

And if you shift just a little (And I mean almost nothing) you get

BBoBoomgmh BBoBoomgmh BBoBoomgmh

I will see if I can upload a sample if this is unclear.

It seems to me that eqing should fix this problem, but it doesn't really. Depending on what the tracks are.

I found that using the color effect filter on a djm makes it much better if a, but if there are violins or vocals in the transition part the filter makes it high parts dull.

On a loud soundsystem it's no problem, but on ipod or radio it sounds ungood.

Posted by Alekos on Dec-04-2009 08:33:

EQ usually does it for me - How are you EQing the tracks? A sample would be helpful

cheers

Posted by chewy dragee on Dec-04-2009 10:11:

I shall try to get a sample posted asap.

I have the bass 0 on incoming track with the high at about 9clock

Outgoing is the dirty bass, Bass 12clock

Outgoing Is O incoming is I

1THen I Bring Ihigh to 12 and Ohigh little down but only slightly.
2THen I slowly bring Ilow to 9 and Olow to about 11
3Then I bring Ilow up on beat while at same time Olow to 8
Fade out Olow slowly

If I take Olow out completely at 3 it sounds crap, since the Ibass is too clean. (Keep the grime there for a bit.)

I also fiddle with the mids, I find lots of the dirty sound also in the mids.

Posted by PivotTechno on Dec-04-2009 14:01:

I try to not have tracks with crappy basslines in them.

But srsly, learn to use your e.q.s - play around with them until you're able to make smooth transitions regardless of disparate elements in the tracks you're mixing.

Practice, practice, practice.

Posted by n3lly on Dec-04-2009 17:51:

Honestly..

I change my track positions around. If a song with a dirty bass line doesn't go well with a smooth bass line, I'll put a different song in there. Something that doesn't have bass at the beginning of it maybe. So the dirty bass line ends (fades out) then there's a nice medium length pause with some airy fairy stuff or just a chance for the crowd to take a breather and then I introduce the next song.

Posted by Tony Morello on Dec-04-2009 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
Honestly..

I change my track positions around. If a song with a dirty bass line doesn't go well with a smooth bass line, I'll put a different song in there. Something that doesn't have bass at the beginning of it maybe. So the dirty bass line ends (fades out) then there's a nice medium length pause with some airy fairy stuff or just a chance for the crowd to take a breather and then I introduce the next song.

+1

sometimes the easiest solution is always the best, just don't mix them together then

if it's not going to work, don't force it, try something that will flow better