TV Gurus Please Help. Sony vs Samsung

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Posted by Reza on Dec-12-2009 22:10:

TV Gurus Please Help. Sony vs Samsung

Between the Sony 120hz LED and Samsung 240HZ LED (Same price...)
which gives the best picture?

Does the extra 120 HZ really make a big difference?

Why are they the same price?

Does sony give a "better" Colour?

Any help would be nice

Ty

Posted by Al on Dec-12-2009 22:13:

I'd take the Samsung depending on the model.

Posted by Reza on Dec-12-2009 22:27:

Sony KDL-46XBR8
46-inch 120Hz 1080p LED Backlit LCD HDTV

VS

Samsung's LED B8000 46" 1080p 240Hz LED HDTV

Posted by snak3st on Dec-12-2009 22:40:

It could depend on the contrast ratio of the TVs, the size of the TV, response time.

If the two are the same size and same price, I'd take the Samsung, just basing it on the fact that it's 240Hz as opposed to 120.

But you should take in account of other tech specs too.

Posted by sunrise3500 on Dec-12-2009 23:02:

Sony is another word for crap. Get the Sammy.

Posted by DeleteFromUsers on Dec-12-2009 23:12:

No experience with the TVs exactly, but....

I have had bad experiences with Sony electronics (receiver, DVD player, VCR) and will NEVER BUY ANOTHER Sony product unless they make some serious changes. WAY over priced for what you get, and the user interface ALWAYS sucks!

Just my $0.02 worth.

Posted by Al on Dec-12-2009 23:16:

quote:
Originally posted by rT19
Sony KDL-46XBR8
46-inch 120Hz 1080p LED Backlit LCD HDTV

VS

Samsung's LED B8000 46" 1080p 240Hz LED HDTV

Samsung. I hope it's the UNB8000 model. If it is, you'd be VERY dumb to buy Sony instead of this Samsung TV

Posted by sunrise3500 on Dec-12-2009 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by sunrise3500
Sony is another word for crap. Get the Sammy.

quote:
Originally posted by DeleteFromUsers
I have had bad experiences with Sony electronics (receiver, DVD player, VCR) and will NEVER BUY ANOTHER Sony product

told you

Posted by Reza on Dec-12-2009 23:55:

thx

Posted by infinity HiGH on Dec-13-2009 00:09:

120hz makes a difference in sports and video games. Don't use it for movies because they'll look too fake.

Posted by bcope on Dec-13-2009 17:44:

buy a plasma. LCDs blow.

Posted by Shaya007 on Dec-13-2009 18:47:

Samsung

Posted by infinity HiGH on Dec-13-2009 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by bcope
buy a plasma. LCDs blow.

Hey maybe you can explain this to me: why are native resolutions for plasma TV's not in widescreen? They're all 1024x768, which is a 4:3 resolution, so if I want to plug my PC in then I'm stuck at a low-end res.

I'd definitely go with plasma if it wasn't for the low resolutions.

edit This is in reference to 720p plasma's, not 1080p ones. 720p LCD's, for example, have a native resolution of 1366x768 (16:9).

Posted by DigiNut on Dec-13-2009 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
720p LCD's, for example, have a native resolution of 1366x768 (16:9).

I thought the native resolution was 1280x720, hence the "720" in "720p." No?

Posted by petro on Dec-13-2009 21:07:

quote:
Originally posted by bcope
buy a plasma. LCDs blow.

I do believe he's asking about LED TVs, but thanks for coming out.

Posted by sunrise3500 on Dec-13-2009 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by petro
I do believe he's asking about LED TVs, but thanks for coming out.

Actually he's asking about a LED backlit LCD. LED TV's are a whole nother beast!

Posted by petro on Dec-13-2009 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by sunrise3500
Actually he's asking about a LED backlit LCD. LED TV's are a whole nother beast!

Well shit, now I'm confused.

Posted by bcope on Dec-13-2009 22:55:

quote:
I do believe he's asking about LED TVs, but thanks for coming out.

regardless of how the panel is lit, LCD displays have a myriad of issues that make them less than desirable to anyone looking for picture quality. poor black levels, horrible off-angle performance, brutal motion handling are just 3 of many issues...

even a mid level plasma can easily outperform the most expensive LCDs on the market, both quantitatively (in testing) and qualitatively (subjective opinion based on use)

Posted by sunrise3500 on Dec-13-2009 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by petro
Well shit, now I'm confused.

An LCD = liquid crystal display. There's a light behind liquid crystal panels, and the liquid crystal either blocks or lets light through. etc.
LED Backlit LCD = the light behind the liquid crystal panels are leds.

An LED TV actually has tiny LEDs for each pixel. The advantage is no backlight, so for black there's literally no light at all. So blacks are true black, makes for a great contrast ratio, unlike lcd where black only looks black when it's against something bright.
The disadvantage is price, price and size (The screens are pretty small at the moment as this manufacturing process is still in its infancy).

Seems marketing like to call led backlit lcd's "LED TVs", sounds like they've opened up a whole lot of legal worms since they're lying.

Posted by bcope on Dec-13-2009 23:01:

quote:
An LED TV actually has tiny LEDs for each pixel. The advantage is no backlight, so for black there's literally no light at all. So blacks are true black, makes for a great contrast ratio, unlike lcd where black only looks black when it's against something bright.
The disadvantage is price, price and size (The screens are pretty small at the moment as this manufacturing process is still in its infancy).

i think you're referring to OLED displays. they are definitely the way of the future.

Posted by sunrise3500 on Dec-13-2009 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by bcope
i think you're referring to OLED displays. they are definitely the way of the future.

yup oled's are manufactured differently but are still a led :P

Posted by bcope on Dec-13-2009 23:13:

which LED display are you referring to?

Posted by petro on Dec-14-2009 00:23:

quote:
Originally posted by sunrise3500
An LCD = liquid crystal display. There's a light behind liquid crystal panels, and the liquid crystal either blocks or lets light through. etc.
LED Backlit LCD = the light behind the liquid crystal panels are leds.

An LED TV actually has tiny LEDs for each pixel. The advantage is no backlight, so for black there's literally no light at all. So blacks are true black, makes for a great contrast ratio, unlike lcd where black only looks black when it's against something bright.
The disadvantage is price, price and size (The screens are pretty small at the moment as this manufacturing process is still in its infancy).

Seems marketing like to call led backlit lcd's "LED TVs", sounds like they've opened up a whole lot of legal worms since they're lying.

Ah I get it. So the majority of the TVs labeled as "LED TVs" that are out today, are just LED backlit LCDs, right? In that case what then is all this hype about energy saving as a result of having a backlit LCD? Is the different between LED and CCFL backlighting that much different in terms of energy consumption?

Posted by sunrise3500 on Dec-14-2009 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by petro
Ah I get it. So the majority of the TVs labeled as "LED TVs" that are out today, are just LED backlit LCDs, right? In that case what then is all this hype about energy saving as a result of having a backlit LCD? Is the different between LED and CCFL backlighting that much different in terms of energy consumption?

The major power user in a LCD would be the backlight, right? Going to LED isn't a huge power saving, but considering the light is the main power consumer, it ends up making a difference...

Posted by snak3st on Dec-14-2009 02:13:

It's not all about energy saving, the LED helps with the actual display. The contrast ratio is higher therefore the blacks will be darker and the whites will be the brighter. The new contrast ratios for LED backlit LCD TVs are now on par with the Plasma screens.

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