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Posted by Brennen on Dec-20-2009 18:50:

Film Lounge Raided

Fifteen arrested in Chinatown drug raid

Updated: Sun Dec. 20 2009 8:32:42 AM

ctvtoronto.ca

Toronto Police have arrested 15 people in a drug raid at a night club in Chinatown.

The drug squad searched the Film Lounge at 393 Dundas Street West, near Spadina Avenue early Sunday morning.

Police found an unspecified amount of cocaine, ketamine, and GHB, also known as the date rape drug.

Fifteen people were arrested and are facing a string of drug trafficking and possession charges.

Six suspects are being held in custody pending a bail hearing. Nine others were charged and released.

Police did not name the suspects and say the investigation is continuing.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...220?hub=Toronto


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-20-2009 18:58:

I thought that place had closed down after the 6th shooting. The wonders never cease...


Posted by barbina on Dec-20-2009 19:08:

it was bound to happen. not a huge surprise


Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-20-2009 20:07:

this shit pisses me off.. Do cops even have the right to search you just for being in a public place? I would seriously hope not.


Posted by xJillx on Dec-20-2009 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
this shit pisses me off.. Do cops even have the right to search you just for being in a public place? I would seriously hope not.


i was wondering that too...
does anyone know?


Posted by VDub on Dec-20-2009 20:31:

Heard about this last night from Tully....


Posted by barbina on Dec-20-2009 20:32:

I've been told they can't search you without consent, and most people don't resist or know their rights. I always thought, maybe its bc I'm American, that you needed a warrant to search someone. Or proof of some sort.


Posted by chinamon on Dec-20-2009 20:40:

im pretty sure when the police have a warrant to search a premises, everyone inside falls under the reasonable doubt category.

if you look at stash houses that get raided, everyone inside gets searched._doesnt matter who the person is.


Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-20-2009 20:43:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
im pretty sure when the police have a warrant to search a premises, everyone inside falls under the reasonable doubt category.

if you look at stash houses that get raided, everyone inside gets searched._doesnt matter who the person is.



but a house vs a public place should make a big difference. I have the right to be in public without worrying that the state will shake me down without cause at any moment. Or at least i should have that right if we really do live in a free country.


Posted by barbina on Dec-20-2009 20:48:

Well .. I guess going someplace where you know you or others are doing a ton of illegal things that your rights are going to be revoked as soon as you walk through that door.


Posted by chinamon on Dec-20-2009 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
but a house vs a public place should make a big difference. I have the right to be in public without worrying that the state will shake me down without cause at any moment. Or at least i should have that right if we really do live in a free country.


we all know that the laws written for law enforcers were written in a way that they can be manipulated for their advantage.


Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-20-2009 20:53:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina
Well .. I guess going someplace where you know you or others are doing a ton of illegal things that your rights are going to be revoked as soon as you walk through that door.


thats a dangerous statement.

a) how do you know people are doing illegal things? and how do they know you know? So does that mean i can get taken down if i walk down an ally? or into a cafe full of hookers?

b) if im not doing anything wrong and no one has seen me doing anything wrong then what business does the state have in accusing me and invading my privacy?

Club raids are so wrong on so many levels. I mean if u are going to have narcs and make arrests then go right ahead. But raids are obnoxious at best and borderline totalitarian at worst.

I fear for my country. I really do


Posted by Jer on Dec-20-2009 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
this shit pisses me off.. Do cops even have the right to search you just for being in a public place? I would seriously hope not.


Reasonable Search & Seizure is a beautiful thing.

If you're completely off your tits in a sketchy TO afterhours, expect this.


Posted by chinamon on Dec-20-2009 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Jer
Reasonable Search & Seizure is a beautiful thing.

If you're completely off your tits in a sketchy TO afterhours, expect this.


where are my tits?


Posted by VDub on Dec-20-2009 21:03:

What if you're not off your tits...

What if you're sitting there having a non-alcoholic drink(no liquor license at Film) and talking about your day with a buddy and listening to some good tunes...

It's a well known fact that the cops totally abuse their powers and bully people every day...


Posted by barbina on Dec-20-2009 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
What if you're not off your tits...

What if you're sitting there having a non-alcoholic drink(no liquor license at Film) and talking about your day with a buddy and listening to some good tunes...

It's a well known fact that the cops totally abuse their powers and bully people every day...


then it sucks to be you
i'm not agreeing with the police here .. but it was done at zone, then the other place whos name is on the tip of my tongue, hotel .. etc etc .. its nothing new. thats all im saying


Posted by Jer on Dec-20-2009 21:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
if im not doing anything wrong and no one has seen me doing anything wrong then what business does the state have in accusing me and invading my privacy?


I really enjoy hearing your viewpoints, as I'm glad there are people still holding the state accountable - But if you're fucked off your gourd in the wee hours of the morning in a venue known to engage in these illegal activities, well.. Looks like a duck etc etc.

If for some reason, that someone was "just there for the excellent musical repertoire" or "fabulous social scene" then no harm, no foul. That argument goes right out the window when they search you (with FAR beyond what any JP would feel constitutes reasonable grounds for S&S) and find half a key or whatever.

I'm not saying that the State should have the unfettered right to S&S, but within reasonable grounds? Absolutely. I welcome any 5-0 / border guard / rent-a-cop to search my shit, because they'll find a debit card and a pack of Captain Blacks. Not a metric shittonne of banned substances.


Posted by LightsOut on Dec-20-2009 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
this shit pisses me off.. Do cops even have the right to search you just for being in a public place? I would seriously hope not.


How is Film a public place? It's a privately owned establishment, and if their was probable cause for a search warrant to be authorized and issued, I would assume that all its patrons are subject to search via reasonable grounds....


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Dec-20-2009 21:08:

Holy shit!

I have a gig there in a few weeks.


Posted by Jer on Dec-20-2009 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
where are my tits?


I've seen some of your club shots, don't tell me that you can't see tits


Posted by Jer on Dec-20-2009 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by LightsOut
..and if their was probable cause for a search warrant to be authorized and issued (on a private establishment), I would assume that all its patrons are subject to search via reasonable grounds....


I'm not 100% sure that's entirely correct, but I could be wrong. It does make sense though.


Posted by chinamon on Dec-20-2009 21:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Jer
I've seen some of your club shots, don't tell me that you can't see tits


i guess when you see it so much you kinda stop noticing them.


Posted by barbina on Dec-20-2009 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
i guess when you see it so much you kinda stop noticing them.



Posted by chinamon on Dec-20-2009 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina


dont worry, barb, i will always remember your fantastic hairy tits with lopsided pancake nipples.


Posted by barbina on Dec-20-2009 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
dont worry, barb, i will always remember your fantastic hairy tits with lopsided pancake nipples.


promise?
if you don't then i'll tell everyone about that micro penis you carry between your legs


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