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I'm watching some youtube videos, and why the fuck no one smacks that prick?

he has 10+ bracelets...

If you think Hellmuth is bad, check out Tony G clips.

Re: Phil Hellmuth

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Originally posted by bananas I'm watching some youtube videos, and why the fuck no one smacks that prick?

the "poker brat" is awesome

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Originally posted by Rodrico If you think Hellmuth is bad, check out Tony G clips.

WOW just checked a clip and that dude is a huge dick lol

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Originally posted by Rodrico If you think Hellmuth is bad, check out Tony G clips.

lol, the guy's from my country

i was watching the series the other day and this one player wont shake his hand when he came to play at the table, he was like, why wouldn't you shake my hand, 100 people i have play with tonight shook my hand, and he answered, "well, i have more class than those 100 people", after that hellmuth just poker raped him

poor baby lol

I can dodge bullets baby!

Well I watched some Tony G videos and atleast the guy talks trash during the game to throw other players off, or after he wins the hand. He aint whining like Hellmuth when he loses, well atleast I hadn't came across such video yet. And he doesn't seem that cocky overall

needling is an amateur gimmick and cocky players usually don't have a reason to be when it comes to poker. you don't really see many top players behaving this way. hellmuth can be bratty, but he's a pretty smart player. i've seen him set some impressive traps and back out of some gnarly ones as well.

Damn this was played amazing



This may now be your poker appreciation/favorite plays thread if you will

I'm embarassed to say he's from my state and also dropped out of one of my states finest unis to play poker and be a whiny goon.

Haven't followed poker for a while now but my favourite player used to be Daniel Negreanu. I also love a sick lay down so...

This hand is just sick

Damn that's amazing

he's talented, any way you look at it. he does whine like a fucking bitch though.

i believe bobby (uwm) has played cards with him before.. i could've just made that up though.

Tom Dwan is a sick duck...130k bluff into a 33k pot, lol and knows Sufai is playin scared. Best part is this is real cash, not tourney chips like in the other videos.

Anyone watch Durrr vs. Isildur1 matches the past 2 months on FTP? Dwan is down 6 million, what a downswing.

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Originally posted by Rodrico Tom Dwan is a sick duck...130k bluff into a 33k pot, lol and knows Sufai is playin scared. Best part is this is real cash, not tourney chips like in the other videos. Anyone watch Durrr vs. Isildur1 matches the past 2 months on FTP? Dwan is down 6 million, what a downswing.

meh, i think that was a bad play. the way it was played out, and with as big of a stack as safai had, i would've called. no doubt. he shouldn't have checked the river. that totally felt like a bluff. the straight-calls after the flop and turn to me says "i'm drawing" and the 2 on the river, unless he was playing A4, 46s, or (very unlikely) 2-2 is the only thing i would've been worried about. maybe Q10 but that's unlikely since dude had AQ, and maybe 1010 but that's even more unlikely since he would've most likely raised preflop. an all-in bet on the river with two consecutive calls screams "i missed". if i would've hit the nuts on the river, i would've bet big, but made it affordable to induce a call. what i would've asked myself if i were sufai is, "why would he bet 130k into a 30k pot?"

pretty much, if he had the nuts he would try to induce a call, not scare me away. plus he had a bad tell too- the fake yawn before the turn says "i'm faking not being interested in this hand" which to me says "i'm weak" in a reverse-psychology kind of way.

i personally would've raised him on the turn either all-in or an amount difficult to call (maybe half my stack)- therefore making sufai think that i have a made hand or i'm drawing to the nuts (which he would have to ask himself "is it worth it if he hits?"). if he for some reason calls i have to push on the river no matter what the card is and hope that my 9-outer hits. then again, who the fuck am i, dude won the pot and i didn't, so.. meh.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue meh, i think that was a bad play. the way it was played out, and with as big of a stack as safai had, i would've called. no doubt. he shouldn't have checked the river. that totally felt like a bluff. the straight-calls after the flop and turn to me says "i'm drawing" and the 2 on the river, unless he was playing A4, 46s, or (very unlikely) 2-2 is the only thing i would've been worried about. maybe Q10 but that's unlikely since dude had AQ, and maybe 1010 but that's even more unlikely since he would've most likely raised preflop. an all-in bet on the river with two consecutive calls screams "i missed". if i would've hit the nuts on the river, i would've bet big, but made it affordable to induce a call. what i would've asked myself if i were sufai is, "why would he bet 130k into a 30k pot?" pretty much, if he had the nuts he would try to induce a call, not scare me away. plus he had a bad tell too- the fake yawn before the turn says "i'm faking not being interested in this hand" which to me says "i'm weak" in a reverse-psychology kind of way. i personally would've raised him on the turn either all-in or an amount difficult to call (maybe half my stack)- therefore making sufai think that i have a made hand or i'm drawing to the nuts (which he would have to ask himself "is it worth it if he hits?"). if he for some reason calls i have to push on the river no matter what the card is and hope that my 9-outer hits. then again, who the fuck am i, dude won the pot and i didn't, so.. meh.

All you just wrote here, is what happened to this guy when he figured Dwan is doing one of his bluffs...

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Originally posted by Rodrico All you just wrote here, is what happened to this guy when he figured Dwan is doing one of his bluffs...

I see where you're coming from but I don't agree. It was a horrible call by dwan on the flop, followed by a lucky 5-outer that he caught on the turn. He bet it like he had it and the fat guy called hoping for a K or Q on the river. He in turn made an awful call on the river. I would've thought my kings were no good after the flop when the A flopped; I would've made the continuation bet and then if called, slow the fuck down on the turn (and possibly fold depending on the turn card). I don't think it was worth the call on the turn, especially for 40k, with only the inside-straight draw and the possibility for a set, its just a six-outer (or maybe fewer depending on if my outs to the straight or set makes a flush for dwan, hearts or diamonds, though I would've been more concerned about hearts for obvious reasons).

The river opened too many possibilities for my kings to be cracked- KQ beats me, A-anything beats me, J-anything beats me, J10, A10, all of which are very likely hands to be called from a re-raise. I think the fat guy just got desperate since he invested so much into a losing pot right from the get-go. That, and the chances that my opponent would call a preflop re-raise and a postflop bet to go runner-runner is slim so I suppose I can *kinda* see his reasoning. In the end it was a hand where kings were played like they should pre/postflop and then played absolutely horrendously after the turn. It was a good bet by dwan regardless, fat guy just played terribly. I think that was just another typical moment where someone overplayed their big pocket pair.

Wow, I'm caring waaaay too much about those hands. Lol.

remember too that these individual hands being played in-between hundreds of hands. You really build a personality at a table over that many hands and can use it to your advantage. So we will never know the context of these plays, you just had to be there.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue I see where you're coming from but I don't agree. It was a horrible call by dwan on the flop,

Im gonna stop you here, and just say, if you think Dwan's call is horrible, then you need to re-evaluate your poker strategy and thought process.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue he's talented, any way you look at it. he does whine like a fucking bitch though. i believe bobby (uwm) has played cards with him before.. i could've just made that up though.

Yeah I have.

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Originally posted by Rodrico Im gonna stop you here, and just say, if you think Dwan's call is horrible, then you need to re-evaluate your poker strategy and thought process.

+1

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Originally posted by UWM Yeah I have.

what were you guys playing at the table?

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