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Your kid turns out to be (heavily) retarded..

I was having a discussion the other day: what if you got a baby and he turned out to be a retard. One that has absolutely 0,0 contribution to society (not the ones that just act a bit silly, but the ones who really can't do shit on their own. Sorry, can't find the right term). One that only costs money (both you and the government), and a hell lot of your time and energy. It means that your life would purely consist of taking care of him/her. Would you consider euthanasia (given that it would be legal)? I know the whole story about being a parent, that you love your kid unconditionally. It's easy for me to say, because I'm far from having my own kid (I don't even really like kids (mostly babies though)), but still.

I'm wondering this because I was spectator at a a sports event a while back and there was this retarded person who was constantly making this loud yelping noise, really annoying, besides just hanging there in his wheelchair. His mom (I guess) had to watch and comfort him the whole time. Someone like him doesn't contribute anything to society. If I would have an accident tomorrow, making me a vegetable, I'd like my parents to have me put to sleep. I can't do shit, and their life is ruined.

I know this may sound heartless, but this really is the way I think about it. I also want to add that I wasn't able to express myself the way I wanted too. But you got the point.

If you are talking real retard (trisomy and such), the master plan has thought of this.

If you are just talking stupid, my kid would get a dose of real life so fast that his face would hurt for a month.

I would have the amniotic fluid tested in the early stages of labour and avoid it altogether.

It's easy to say something like this looking at other people..but I have a feeling if it was your child that you raised from a newborn, you would never consider it. Killing others..no way. Assisted suicide or voluntary euthanasia should be legal however.

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Originally posted by jennypie I would have the amniotic fluid tested in the early stages of labour and avoid it altogether.

Probably this.

As selfish as this sounds, I guess, I do not want a tardkid.

It sucked the other day I was waiting for my supplements to be delivered. I heard a truck driving by slowly so I ran outside just to find out it was only the small bus picking up the retard kid down the street. Fuck I was pissed.

It's just better all around on so many levels. I mean not only is it a strain on the parents, but I mean...the parents can't take care of the kid forever, and once they get turned over to social services or whatever, well that's a huge burden on the health care system as well.

Ask Arcadias mom?

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Originally posted by Capitalizt It's easy to say something like this looking at other people..but I have a feeling if it was your child that you raised from a newborn, you would never consider it. Killing others..no way. Assisted suicide or voluntary euthanasia should be legal however.

I too am in favor of voluntary euthanasia. But in the case of you having to judge what's best for your own kid, I'd say killing others (i.e. your own kid) is acceptable. Especially if he lacks the mental ability to contest it.

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Originally posted by jennypie I would have the amniotic fluid tested in the early stages of labour and avoid it altogether.

Sure, that's a possibility too, but now you're just avoiding the ethical issue here

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Originally posted by Schadenfreude If you are talking real retard (trisomy and such), the master plan has thought of this. If you are just talking stupid, my kid would get a dose of real life so fast that his face would hurt for a month.

What is this master plan you speak of?

I don't know. I'd probably raise him because a life is a life after all... but this is no easy question.

What ethical issue? The ethics of the issue are dependent upon the values of the people involved. For me, there there wouldn't be any kind of dilemma. And since it is entirely legal to terminate a pregnancy if you know there is a detrimental defect, it supports the decision I would make.

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Originally posted by Frenkieee I too am in favor of voluntary euthanasia. But in the case of you having to judge what's best for your own kid, I'd say killing others (i.e. your own kid) is acceptable. Especially if he lacks the mental ability to contest it. Sure, that's a possibility too, but now you're just avoiding the ethical issue here What is this master plan you speak of?

read mein kempf.

With testing for this kind of thing getting better i would terminate (well convince her to) the pregnancy. I'm not a right to life fag. What kind of life would you be giving the kid anyway, if all he did was put shoes in his mouth?

To me, it is not a living thing until it shits on you and costs money.

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Originally posted by jennypie What ethical issue? The ethics of the issue are dependent upon the values of the people involved. For me, there there wouldn't be any kind of dilemma. And since it is entirely legal to terminate a pregnancy if you know there is a detrimental defect, it supports the decision I would make.

Okay, I'll give you that. But lets put it this way then: let's say your parents die and you get full guardianship over your brother/sister, who is a complete retard. What would you do in that case? It's not really the same, because the blood band is not the same, but I think it's comparable enough for this discussion.

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Originally posted by Schadenfreude read mein kempf.

I should have thought of something along those lines, coming from you

I would put them in a home, man. I wouldn't even think twice about it. I know for a fact I wouldn't be able to devote the kind of time and energy needed to provide the right care for such a person.


In fact, one of the secretaries at my bf's work has a preteen autistic son, and she's putting him in a home when he's 16, because she simply cannot care for him.

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Originally posted by jennypie In fact, one of the secretaries at my bf's work has a preteen autistic son, and she's putting him in a home when he's 16, because she simply cannot care for him.

Why at 16? Does this have anything to do with legal issues?

Of course, putting him in a home is probably the most obvious decision. It would take it all off your hands. But he would still be costing the society money, and if he won't even be able to recognize his father/mother, I wouldn't know if I could grow attached to him, had he been my own.

you could always bring him to the glue factory...what is good for a horse is good for a tard.

Yeah some legal shit.

But sorry, to answer your original question...yes I would consider euthanasia. Again, the ethics of the situation depend on the values of people involved, and if laws were in place in society that allowed euthanasia, I would do it.

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Originally posted by jennypie Yeah some legal shit. But sorry, to answer your original question...yes I would consider euthanasia. Again, the ethics of the situation depend on the values of people involved, and if laws were in place in society that allowed euthanasia, I would do it.

So you really are a heartless bitch, you're not just acting like one in the COR.

No j/k, I feel the same way (and I'm getting the feeling many others do too).

It would be nice to have a couple of responses from people who are in fact parents.

I know of many non-classified retarded grown ups that do not contribute to society in any way.

My brother is now 7...and he grew up with no symptoms of autism or any disability (tested by Yale. U). However, he cannot speak to save his life. He only knows how to say words without connecting them. He doesn't know distinction of colors and is not very active with other kids. He does have some mental problem, that is discrete to professionals.

If your sibling turns out to have a disability, no matter of what you think now, you would still love them, even more than your other kids. I love my bro and I am willing to support him even if he interferes greatly with my personal life.

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Originally posted by jennypie Yeah some legal shit. But sorry, to answer your original question...yes I would consider euthanasia. Again, the ethics of the situation depend on the values of people involved, and if laws were in place in society that allowed euthanasia, I would do it.

fuck that noise.

retarded people are said to have a high pain threshold, so beating them with a bat would be much more fun. Plus you could sample the moans for a nu disco record.

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Originally posted by ivofivo My brother is now 7...and he grew up with no symptoms of autism or any disability (tested by Yale. U). However, he cannot speak to save his life. He only knows how to say words without connecting them. He doesn't know distinction of colors and is not very active with other kids. He does have some mental problem, that is discrete to professionals. If your sibling turns out to have a disability, no matter of what you think now, you would still love them, even more than your other kids. I love my bro and I am willing to support him even if he interferes greatly with my personal life.

sorry to hear that.

next time make sure your parents are not siblings.

I like where this thread is going.

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Originally posted by Direct It sucked the other day I was waiting for my supplements to be delivered. I heard a truck driving by slowly so I ran outside just to find out it was only the small bus picking up the retard kid down the street. Fuck I was pissed.

did this not make anyone else fuckin lol. GOLD JERRY GOLD!

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