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Posted by HardTranceProd on Dec-31-2009 01:59:

Lightbulb Barack Obama Gets an "F" for Protecting Americans

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/t...ting-americans/

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Barack Obama gets an 'F' for protecting Americans

There is no more solemn duty for an American commander-in-chief than the marshalling of �every element of our national power� � the phrase Obama himself used on Monday � to protect the people of the United States. In that key respect, Obama failed on Christmas Day, just as President George W. Bush failed on September 11th (though he succeeded in the seven years after that).

Yes, the buck stops in the Oval Office. Obama may have rather smugly given himself a �B+� for his 2009 performance but he gets an F for the events that led to Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab boarding a Detroit-bound plane in Amsterdam with a PETN bomb sewn into his underpants. He said today that a �systemic failure has occurred�. Well, he�s in charge of that system.

The picture we�re getting is more and more alarming by the hour. Here are some key elements to consider:

1. Abdulmutallab�s father spoke several times to the US Embassy in Abuja, Nigeria and visited a CIA officer there to tell him, apparently, that he feared his son was a jihadist being trained in Yemen. According to CNN, the CIA officer wrote up a report, which then sat in the CIA headquarters at Langley for several weeks without being disseminated to the rest of the intelligence community. This was not just a casual encounter. Again according to CNN, there were at least two face-to-face meetings, telephone calls and written correspondence with the father. If it�s true that the CIA sat on this then it beggars belief.

2. After 9/11, the huge bureaucracies of the Homeland Security Department and the Directorate of National Intelligence (DNI) were created. Inside the DNI, the National Counter Terrorism Center was created. These organisations were created to �connect the dots�. It may well be that the fault lay with NCTC and not the CIA � CIA spokesman George Little says here that �key biographical information� and information about �possible extremist connections in Yemen� was passed to NCTC. If NCTC knew about it, then did someone at the National Security Council within the White House? There�s a huge blame game beginning so we�ll no doubt know soon enough.

3. It wasn�t just the meeting with the father. According to CBS, �as early as August of 2009 the Central Intelligence Agency was picking up information on a person of interest dubbed �The Nigerian� suspected of meeting with �terrorist elements� in Yemen�. So there were other parts of the jigsaw that were not put together.

4. In his studied desire to be the unBush by responding coolly to events like this, Obama is dangerously close to failing as a leader. Yes, it is good not to shoot from the hip and make broad assertions without the facts. But Obama took three days before speaking to the American people, emerging on Monday in between golf and tennis games in Hawaii to deliver a rather tepid address that significantly underplayed what happened. He described Abdulmutallab as an �isolated extremist� who �allegedly tried to ignite an explosive device on his body� � phrases that indicate a legalistic, downplaying approach that alarms rather than reassures. Today�s words showed a lot more fire and desire to get on top of things � we�ll see whether Obama follows through with action. In the meantime, he went snorkelling.

5. There has been a pattern developing with the Obama administration trying to minimise terrorist attacks. We saw it with Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, a Muslim convert who murdered a US Army recruit in Little Rock, Arkansas in June. We saw it with Major Nidal Malik Hassan, a Muslim with Palestinian roots who slaughtered 13 at Fort Hood, Texas last month. In both cases, there were Yemen connections. Obama began to take the same approach with Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. We�ll see whether this incident shakes him out of that complacency. Whether it�s called the war on terror or not, it�s clear that the US is at war against al-Qaeda and radical Islamists.

6. Guantanamo Bay. It seems that two of the Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) planners behind this attack were released from Guantanamo Bay during the Bush administration. That calls into question the competence of Bush administration officials but also the wisdom of closing Guantanamo Bay. How many other enemies of America and the West are going to be released back to the battlefield? As Mike Goldfarb asks: �Is the Obama administration seriously still considering sending some 90 Yemeni detainees now being held at Gitmo back to their country of origin, where al Qaeda are apparently running around with impunity?�

7. Janet Napolitano, Obama�s Homeland Security Chief, has been a disaster in this, exhibiting the kind of bureaucratic complacency that makes ordinary citizens want to go postal. On Sunday, she told CNN that �one thing I�d like to point out is that the system worked� and ABC News that �once the incident occurred, the system worked�. A day later, she grumbled that quoted �out of context� before reversing herself, telling NBC: �Our system did not work in this instance. No one is happy or satisfied with that. An extensive review is under way.� The �system worked� comment was a �heckuva job, Brownie� moment. Is she up to the job?

8. Will Obama hold individuals accountable? Briefing the press today behind a cloak of anonymity as a �Senior Administration Official�, Denis McDonough, NSC chief of staff (he gave the game away by saying he was from Minnesota), said that Obama �intends to demand accountability at the highest levels� before adding: � It remains to be seen what that means exactly.� If heads don�t roll � and soon � then Obama�s words will seem hollow. It�s an opportunity for him to show some real steel.

9. There�s a continued, unfortunate tendency for everyone in Obamaland to preface every comment about something going wrong with a sideswipe against the Bush administration. On Sunday, Bill Burton, Deputy White House Press Secretary, briefed: �On the Sunday shows, Robert Gibbs and Secretary Napolitano made clear that we are pressing ahead with securing our nation against threats and our aggressive posture in the war with al Qaeda. We are winding down a war in Iraq that took our eye off of the terrorists that attacked us, and have dramatically increased our resources in Afghanistan and Pakistan where those terrorists are.� Why pat yourself on the back for �winding down a war in Iraq that took our eye off of the terrorists that attacked us� when the issue at hand is why the US government under Obama, er, took its eyes off a terrorist who did try to attack us and nearly killed 300 people? It�s bordering on the juvenile. Obama�s been president for a year now. It�s time for him to accept that things that happen as his responsibility, not Bush�s. It�s time for him to echo Ronald Reagan, who said over Iran-Contra: �I take full responsibility for my own actions and for those of my administration.�

10. Will there be US air attacks against targets in Yemen? Watch this space. It�s safe to say that Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula or AQAP, described to me by a senior intelligence official today as �officially recognised and in corporate terms a sanctioned franchise of al-Qaeda� that is plainly now seeking to become an international rather than just a regional Islamist player.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-31-2009 04:34:

arent you one of the first posters to jump on the libertarian bandwagon when it comes to US spying and intelligence collection? so, do you want personal liberties or do you want protection from the evil terrorists?


Posted by HardTranceProd on Dec-31-2009 05:11:

I merely posted a news article without necessarily endorsing it
The goal was to generate discussion.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-31-2009 05:23:

well, my discussion point is that preventing terrorist attacks is next to impossible without infringing on the rights or privacy of others, and when a president attempts to do this he gets called a fascist, and when these fascist measures fail he gets called incompetent.


Posted by Clovis on Dec-31-2009 05:25:

The reality is he is not directly responsible for keeping America safe.


Posted by NeoPhono on Dec-31-2009 06:51:

Yeah, I'm sure he's remembering that one night not too long ago, where he was kicking his feet back watching some football after doing all the other stuff presients do all day and missed that one name on that one flight log he was looking into.

Yes, this is a mistake, and I know the figurehead takes the biggest shots, but unless you can prove to me the direct actions of Obama were the cause of this, my blame falls entirely on the ones below him, who he has delegated his power in order for these things not happen. A bad delegation move on Obama's perhaps, but the fault lies with those who should not make this possible.


Posted by NeoPhono on Dec-31-2009 06:54:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
well, my discussion point is that preventing terrorist attacks is next to impossible without infringing on the rights or privacy of others, and when a president attempts to do this he gets called a fascist, and when these fascist measures fail he gets called incompetent.


Exactly.

1. Terrorist activity occurs
2. People scream that something must be done about the terrorism.
3. Things get more expensive and inconvenient than before; perhaps safer.
4. People scream that something must be done about the loss of freedom and new expenses.
5. Some previous changes are repelled while less people decide to fly planes; things are more free and less expensive while also less safe.
6. Someone figures out a new way to blow up a plane almost undetected, and the cycle starts again.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Dec-31-2009 08:10:

Eesh. The Telegraph gets an "F" for understanding American governance. Also an "F" for restrained use of hyperbole.

Failing as a leader because he didn't give al-Qaeda a panicked and rushed response before the facts of the case were in? Ok. The story died down in the Middle East within hours, largely because the US didn't overreact.
http://lynch.foreignpolicy.com/post...rab_media_cares

Furthermore, the story that IS getting traction in the Muslim world now is the fact that the guy basically emasculated himself. They're laughing at al-Qaeda for being horribly unorganized and lacking capacity or competence. Why should Obama have leapt to a podium and made grandiose statements about public safety and caused a panic by over-stating al-Qaeda's reach?

This kind of reporting is dangerous because it is rallying support to place pressure on the President to over-exaggerate security threats. This is exactly why we got into Iraq, and why the Dept. of Homeland Security once recommended that the American people start saran wrapping their houses.


Posted by Krypton on Jan-03-2010 22:08:

If this incident gets Obama and "F" for defending America, what does Bush get for 9/11 happening on his watch?


Posted by Spam on Jan-05-2010 10:19:

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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
If this incident gets Obama and "F" for defending America, what does Bush get for 9/11 happening on his watch?


Didn't you read the article? He did an AMAZING job in the 7 years following 9/11.

Like fuck, look at Iraq!

No one blew up any more buildings after the US inva/@$&* Liberated THAT country.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Jan-05-2010 12:26:

Dana Perino Predents 9/11 Didn't Happen When Bush Was President - Watch more Politics Videos at Vodpod.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jan-05-2010 16:00:

quote:
just as President George W. Bush failed on September 11th (though he succeeded in the seven years after that).


I am far from a fan of Obama, but I stopped reading right there. Keeping America "safe" does not entail an obligation to have 0 citizen casualties during your time in office. Fucking moronic article.


Posted by ziptnf on Jan-05-2010 16:21:

This article is blaming Obama for not creating world peace. People are such fucking hypocrites, neither America nor the rest of the world is ever going to be completely safe from terrorists.


Posted by Chryz707 on Jan-06-2010 19:54:

Eliminating Terrorism is like making Cockroaches go extinct! It will never happen!


Posted by D-res on Jan-06-2010 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Chryz707
Eliminating Terrorism is like making Cockroaches go extinct! It will never happen!


Good lunk! We'd have to start by vaporizing our entire defense department and many foreign bases!

To think we could actually save money by abolishing terrorism


Posted by USA Green Tech on Jan-20-2010 18:58:

He gets an "A" for protecting America.


Posted by Communist on Jan-20-2010 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by USA Green Tech
He gets an "A" for protecting America.


Fuck off bot.


Posted by Comrade Stalin on Jan-20-2010 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Communist
Fuck off bot.


Control yourself. We Bolsheviks are better than this.


Posted by ziptnf on Jan-20-2010 19:29:



Krypton, you should create an entire army of alts.


Posted by USA Green Tech on Jan-20-2010 21:18:

I am not a bot.


Posted by Krypton on Jan-20-2010 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by USA Green Tech
I am not a bot.


Dem-bot


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jan-21-2010 11:12:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
well, my discussion point is that preventing terrorist attacks is next to impossible without infringing on the rights or privacy of others, and when a president attempts to do this he gets called a fascist, and when these fascist measures fail he gets called incompetent.

I agree with that, but would also add in addition that the whole terrorism thing is vastly exaggurated, and ultimately overall people aren't that bad, at least in this respect.

For every terrorist that is stopped 10x that amount of worth in civil liberties had to be infringed upon.

Crime rackets are probably 5x larger a problem. Hard drugs like crack or heroin or simply rackets that murder people are likely a larger issue.



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