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Posted by bigperf on Jan-05-2010 20:49:

Who are the highest grossing edm edm dj's/producers

sweetuh kinda beat me to it, but i was thinking when it comes to album sales and selling out locales, who are the cream of the crop...

daft punk
crystal method
tiesto
underworld?
moby?
and...

selling out arenas and going platinum spells success in the music industry, so regardless on anyones thoughts on david guetta's music, the man is doing something right.


Posted by jimji1005 on Jan-05-2010 20:55:

I think its Armin!


Posted by DaveT on Jan-05-2010 21:11:

Tiesto overall is prob still more popular than Armin. He's known to the mass market more. Armin might get there one day, but I don't see the same type of PR madness for him that we saw for Tiesto.


Posted by DjWoody on Jan-05-2010 21:26:

Tiesto & Daft Punk for sure. They both sell out arenas. Guetta is getting there. I think Guetta sells out more than Armin mostly due to his success on Top 40 radio.


Posted by Marcus007 on Jan-05-2010 22:03:

In this order:

Tiesto
Daft Punk
David Guetta
Armin Van Buuren


Posted by infiniteJEST on Jan-05-2010 22:37:

Let's not forget Fatboy Slim, The Chemical Bros., or The Prodigy.

Big Beat makes big bucks.


Posted by Nerologic on Jan-05-2010 22:42:

Daft Punk.

They made a SHIT TON of money with that game that just got released.

And they will continue getting royalties for it.

After that it has to be either Tiesto or Guetta. Guetta is making a retarded amount of money with Sexy Bitch. Its getting HUGE amount of radio play etc etc.


Posted by modthispny on Jan-05-2010 22:45:

how much money do you guys think armin pulls in per year once it's all said and done?


Posted by R!CH on Jan-05-2010 23:10:

let me explain you what "most successful" really means... lowest common denominator... that is all.

if these guys are doing one thing right, it's making money. making money doesn't equate to making quality, creative or original music.

you know who else makes lots of money? mcdonalds, britney spears, walmart, budweiser, fox news. lowest common denominator.


Posted by Sadface on Jan-05-2010 23:11:

quote:
Originally posted by modthispny
how much money do you guys think armin pulls in per year once it's all said and done?

I'd guess in the neighborhood of 3 million from gigs (assuming an average club gig gets him 20-40 plus the occasional arena show which could be closer to 100). No idea how much he makes from armada or ASOT.

Edit: R!ch, you can talk all the shit you want about the "lowest common denominator," but when you think about how many millions of people try to appeal to it and fail you have to have at least some respect for those who actually manage to succeed. They're playing a different game than you are, but they're still really good at what they do.


Posted by TulliNation on Jan-05-2010 23:20:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
let me explain you what "most successful" really means... lowest common denominator... that is all.


you know who else makes lots of money? mcdonalds, britney spears, walmart, budweiser, fox news. lowest common denominator.


Nicely put.


Posted by element-y on Jan-05-2010 23:34:

Talking bookings - Mau5 is very very high - More so than Armin. Tiesto is at the top - but i am sure Daft Punk are even more. Not sure about Moby and Underworld but imagine them high as well.


Posted by R!CH on Jan-05-2010 23:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
Edit: R!ch, you can talk all the shit you want about the "lowest common denominator," but when you think about how many millions of people try to appeal to it and fail you have to have at least some respect for those who actually manage to succeed. They're playing a different game than you are, but they're still really good at what they do.


nope. all the millions who tried and failed never had the talent to get there to begin with. the ones who tried and made it squandered theirs. tiesto and armin were really talented at one point in time, when trance was fresh and new. they came to a fork in the road and decided to take the path most traveled to make boatloads of money instead of staying at the tip of the sword and being an original. i can't fault them for making that choice, but i don't have to respect them or what they're doing. anyone who's followed armin and tiesto since their early days will agree that they've never been as good as they were before they arrived at their coveted dj mag status. it has a lot to do with their money-hungry agents/managers and their willingness to follow their guidance lockstep. at the end of the day i really don't give a shit about these top djs and their lives, but i hate seeing this stupid ass argument about "they're making millions, they must be doing something right!" it means they're making money, not respectable music. learn the difference people.


Posted by DjWoody on Jan-05-2010 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
it means they're making money, not respectable music. learn the difference people.


"Respectable music" in the EDM world is very subjective. What you might consider respectable, I might consider it boredom and vice versa. Eitherway, it's a known fact that once you get that big, you'll get hated on like crazy.


Posted by |Thrax| on Jan-05-2010 23:47:

dude, who the fuck cares

more money = more shit


Posted by R!CH on Jan-06-2010 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
"Respectable music" in the EDM world is very subjective. What you might consider respectable, I might consider it boredom and vice versa. Eitherway, it's a known fact that once you get that big, you'll get hated on like crazy.


you play top 40 mashups so i'm quite sure your opinion of respectable differs from mine. the question is how well you can rationalize what respectable is and in what context you're speaking from. if your rationale for respectability is simply "$$$", then you are full of shit. you talk to anyone who tries to sell you on tiesto's music today and it's always the same argument... $$$ DJMAG $$$ DJMAG $$$. try pulling that argument in the music discussion forum, where people know what they're talking about.


Posted by DjWoody on Jan-06-2010 00:20:

lol I don't play mashups, I actually don't like them. lol I play latin & yes, mainstream stuff like Guetta.

Eitherway, my passion still EDM, with some of my favorite DJ's being Sasha, Digweed, James Holden, Mauro Picotto, Sander K, Gui Boratto, Sven Vath, Masiello, Hawtin, and yes Tiesto & PVD. As you can see, I'm pretty open minded and broad with my music. I appreciate all sorts of music.

I agree with making $$$ not being the same as respect, but one thing I do respect is the hustle. That's where they get my respect. Without the hustle they wouldn't be where they at.


Posted by msilin on Jan-06-2010 00:25:

This conversation has totally strayed from the original question...

We're talking about money. Guetta has FMIF and a bunch of hit songs. He doesn't compare to Armada or Tiesto.

I would say Tiesto is probably first. He's been selling out arenas, he had a shoe deal, he has deals with Armani Exchange and Smirnoff, etc. He also had black hole recordings and is now starting his own label.

Armin is probably close second now. Armada is a fucking powerhouse. Just look at their roster. They not only have all of their artists but they have sublabels such as Coldharbour and Magic Island. Armada has great depth in the electronic world.

Then I would guess Moby or Daft Punk because of all their album sales... there's also Oakenfold who very likely still sells a lot of albums, also has Perfecto records and his Vegas deal.

Also likely selling tons of albums: Crystal Method, Prodigy, Groove Armada...

after that it's hard to say.


Posted by Scoops on Jan-06-2010 00:27:

Guetta gets 60-70k jsut for a 3hour gig


Posted by element-y on Jan-06-2010 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Scoops
Guetta gets 60-70k jsut for a 3hour gig


Add another 30-50k to get to the more expensive ones


Posted by drEamer on Jan-06-2010 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DjWoody
"Respectable music" in the EDM world is very subjective. What you might consider respectable, I might consider it boredom and vice versa. Eitherway, it's a known fact that once you get that big, you'll get hated on like crazy.
music in general is subjective, just cuz rich doesnt like it, doesnt make it bad....


Posted by Sadface on Jan-06-2010 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
at the end of the day i really don't give a shit about these top djs and their lives, but i hate seeing this stupid ass argument about "they're making millions, they must be doing something right!" it means they're making money, not respectable music. learn the difference people.

Yeah, but this is a thread about money. Nobody's talking about their music here except you.


Posted by R!CH on Jan-06-2010 00:52:

Re: Who are the highest grossing edm edm dj's/producers♠

everyone knows the genesis of the discussion is... david guetta tao thread -> david guetta $$$ thread -> to this clever compartmentalization down to money

my posts relate directly to this point

quote:
Originally posted by bigperf
regardless on anyones thoughts on david guetta's music, the man is doing something right.


i'm here to clarify to those confused by what he's doing right. clearly there are a lot of confused people.


Posted by R!CH on Jan-06-2010 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by drEamer
music in general is subjective, just cuz rich doesnt like it, doesnt make it bad....


in that case there is no such thing as bad music


Posted by bigperf on Jan-06-2010 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
everyone knows the genesis of the discussion is... david guetta tao thread -> david guetta $$$ thread -> to this clever compartmentalization down to money

my posts relate directly to this point



i'm here to clarify to those confused by what he's doing right. clearly there are a lot of confused people.


rich, he's getting paid in an honest fashion! it's not like he's working for the mexican drug cartels.


don't all musicians want to make great music, have huge followings and make lots of money?


i already know rich will say guettas music isnt great :-)

im not saying it is...


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