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xone 92 question

so i bought a Xone 92 online. the website called me today and said that the fader model was back ordered but they have a roteray in stock. they said they'll give it to me for the same price. any suggestions on what i should do? i have never mixed on a roteray b4. ill more than likely wait for the fader version but that might be over a month b4 they get one in. have any of you mixed on the roteray? do you like it?

i know it all comes down to personal preference in the end, but i'm just looking for your input.

rotary > *

It all depends on what you mix and how I'd say. For long smooth mixes (prog. house for example) rotaries are is much nicer than faders, but for quick cuts and whatnot faders are much better (hip hop for example).

I got the rotary version and I love it, wouldn't change it for anything, didn't even think about ordering the fader version. And if I need to do some cutting, I can do it with the crossfader as I can assign any channel to it anyway.

^^^ i always seem to change up my stiles prom prog to breaks to electro. i think i will be able to do it with the rotary. i never mix hip hop.

Personally. If you went to buy the linear. I'd wait.

I only say this because that's one expensive mixer you're about to buy. I wouldn't after trying to buy the linear, settle for the rotary. Especially seeing as you haven't tried one before.

My call is be patient and wait for the linear version. It is in the end of the day what you initially decided on buying.

steve

You could always go to a store that has them both and see if they let you try them out.

As stated earlier, get what you want. It all comes down to preference.

I bought the rotary because I love the feel and control for nice smooth mixes, and can go
to the crossfader if I need quick cuts.

Get the rotary, if you don't like it, sell it and you'll have enough money to buy the linear still.

personal preferance really.. i got the linear only cause i couldnt get used to the rotaries

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Originally posted by Shudder personal preferance really.. i got the linear only cause i couldnt get used to the rotaries

That's what I'd be worried about.

Progress that's a 100-150$ try out. Pretty expensive if you ask me.

^^^ they gave me the rotary for the same price. i went for it. i have been back and for picking up a rotary mixer any way. i am mostly sure considering the way i mix i can do just as well on ether mixer. i even pretended my current mixer was a rotary and started using the x fader in different ways to make up for slower speed of a rotary nob and i get the same results as my normal way of mixing. thanks for your inputs. ill let u guys know if it was a huge mistake

Congrats on the purchase either way I'm sure you'll love the unit! A nice late christmas gift!..

I have the Rotary version. It's awesome. It takes only a little bit of time to get used to it over linear.

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Originally posted by tortoise ...i even pretended my current mixer was a rotary and started using the x fader in different ways to make up for slower speed of a rotary nob and i get the same results as my normal way of mixing....

That is not the same at all. Crossfader increases the volume on one channel while proportionally decreasing the volume on the other, which is not what channel faders do.

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Originally posted by woscar That is not the same at all. Crossfader increases the volume on one channel while proportionally decreasing the volume on the other, which is not what channel faders do.

You can just not assign anything to the other side of the crossfader. Sure, it's not the same as having 4 independent line faders, but it works for me at least if I need to do some quick stuff (which I rarely do).

i started out mixing on linear version djm's and used those for a very long time before switching to 92-r, and i just couldn't break the habit of maxing the knob at 12 o'clock instead of 5 o'clock on the rotary in middle of a mix, as if its a linear fader. and sometimes in the heat of it, i'd confuse higher-mid fr. eq with high fr. eq. its pretty dumb when you think about it, but old habits are really hard to break especially when you don't play around as much as you used to...

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Originally posted by woscar That is not the same at all. Crossfader increases the volume on one channel while proportionally decreasing the volume on the other, which is not what channel faders do.

not the way i mix. normally ill set the EQs then, ill up fade about 3/4 the way real fast. i usually put my finger down to stop if from going all the way to full volume. from there i adjust the EQs and slowly up fade the rest of the way.


new way

i have my X-fader set so that any movement from ether side will bring in the assigned track to full volume. there is no fade involved at all.

now. instead of up fade 3/4 the way i will set my x-fader to one side and turn the rotary knob 3/4 the way up. there will be no change in the music being played because the x fader is to the side where the channel that is to be up faded in is off. when im ready i will quicklly cross fade to the middle, placing my finger down to stop the fader from going all the way to the other side & muteing the track that is to be faded out. from there i will proceed as normal

maybe you should try one out first

If you are anything like me, once you get your Allen & Heath your entire method mixing is going to change anyway... lol

I used to mix similar to the way you describe, but now I mostly use the high pass filter. I turn the filter on the channel I am mixing and adjust it so the resonance is pretty even (no cut, no added effect) and so that all of the low is filtered out and most of the high. Then I move the line-fader to 100% and slowly mix in with the filter - then when it is even to the main I put the filter on the first track and take it off the new one and mix out with filter - usually turning up the resonance to add a little effect.

As I have said on here before (and I'm sure people are tired of hearing it) the 42 changed my (mixing) life within 15 minutes of hooking it up. I was never a fan of the Pioneer - mostly because of the effects. The A&H filter is all I will ever need (want).

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Originally posted by tortoise not the way i mix. normally ill set the EQs then, ill up fade about 3/4 the way real fast. i usually put my finger down to stop if from going all the way to full volume. from there i adjust the EQs and slowly up fade the rest of the way. new way i have my X-fader set so that any movement from ether side will bring in the assigned track to full volume. there is no fade involved at all. now. instead of up fade 3/4 the way i will set my x-fader to one side and turn the rotary knob 3/4 the way up. there will be no change in the music being played because the x fader is to the side where the channel that is to be up faded in is off. when im ready i will quicklly cross fade to the middle, placing my finger down to stop the fader from going all the way to the other side & muteing the track that is to be faded out. from there i will proceed as normal

That's a weird ass way of mixing, but whatever works for you.

I was just pointing out that "doing different things with the crossfader" trying to mimic what the rotary knob does is not going to work.

Just so happens they sent me the fader version anyway. (Gray face plate, sweet). over all i really like it. it is taking some time to get used to. my old mixer (Vestax PMC37 pro) had 3 faders instead of 4 knobs for eqing so that's the biggest learning curve with this mixer.

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