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Illin', yo...

Window cleaning chemical injected into fast food hamburger meat

(NaturalNews) If you're in the beef business, what do you do with all the extra cow parts and trimmings that have traditionally been sold off for use in pet food? You scrape them together into a pink mass, inject them with a chemical to kill the e.coli, and sell them to fast food restaurants to make into hamburgers.

That's what's been happening all across the USA with beef sold to McDonald's, Burger King, school lunches and other fast food restaurants, according to a New York Times article. The beef is injected with ammonia, a chemical commonly used in glass cleaning and window cleaning products.

This is all fine with the USDA, which endorses the procedure as a way to make the hamburger beef "safe" enough to eat. Ammonia kills e.coli, you see, and the USDA doesn't seem to be concerned with the fact that people are eating ammonia in their hamburgers.

This ammonia-injected beef comes from a company called Beef Products, Inc. As NYT reports, the federal school lunch program used a whopping 5.5 million pounds of ammonia-injected beef trimmings from this company in 2008. This company reportedly developed the idea of using ammonia to sterilize beef before selling it for human consumption.

Aside from the fact that there's ammonia in the hamburger meat, there's another problem with this company's products: The ammonia doesn't always kill the pathogens. Both e.coli and salmonella have been found contaminating the cow-derived products sold by this company.

This came as a shock to the USDA, which had actually exempted the company's products from pathogen testing and product recalls. Why was it exempted? Because the ammonia injection process was deemed so effective that the meat products were thought to be safe beyond any question.

What else is in there?
As the NYT reports, "The company says its processed beef, a mashlike substance frozen into blocks or chips, is used in a majority of the hamburger sold nationwide. But it has remained little known outside industry and government circles. Federal officials agreed to the company's request that the ammonia be classified as a 'processing agent' and not an ingredient that would be listed on labels."

Fascinating. So you can inject a beef product with a chemical found in glass cleaning products and simply call it a "processing agent" -- with the full permission and approval of the USDA, no less! Does anyone doubt any longer how deeply embedded the USDA is with the beef industry?

Apparently, this practice of injecting fast food beef with ammonia has been a well-kept secret for years. I never knew this was going on, and this news appears to be new information to virtually everyone. The real shocker is that "a majority" of fast food restaurants use this ammonia-injected cow-derived product in their hamburger meat. It sort of makes you wonder: What else is in there that we don't know about?

"School lunch officials and other customers complained about the taste and smell of the beef," says the NYT. No wonder. It's been pumped full of chemicals.

There are already a thousand reasons not to eat fast food. Make this reason number 1,001. Ammonia. It's not supposed to be there.

You can get the same effect by opening a can of dog food made with beef byproducts, spraying it with ammonia, and swallowing it. That is essentially what you're eating when you order a fast food burger.

Original NYT article

propylene glycol is a popular additive to foods which is the main ingredient in antifreeze.


Im not a fan of additives at all. But often times i question shock articles like this. Yeah ammonia isnt pleasant but sometimes the compound is slightly different or it has a different reaction with other compounds which makes it perfectly safe.

Or for example they will say "used in this and this product" which makes it sound lethal. Meanwhile we could say that "water" is used in cleaning products and make the same arguement.


Im not nec defending processed foods. I wish it was easier to avoid them (and i admit i love a good burger).

i just barfed a bit...

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Originally posted by Jayx1 propylene glycol is a popular additive to foods which is the main ingredient in antifreeze. Im not a fan of additives at all. But often times i question shock articles like this. Yeah ammonia isnt pleasant but sometimes the compound is slightly different or it has a different reaction with other compounds which makes it perfectly safe. Or for example they will say "used in this and this product" which makes it sound lethal. Meanwhile we could say that "water" is used in cleaning products and make the same arguement. Im not nec defending processed foods. I wish it was easier to avoid them (and i admit i love a good burger).

How about just eating "beef"?

Remember "beef"? It comes from cows. It doesn't have anything in it other than cow and what the cow ate. I don't really eat much "beef" these days, but I do recall that "beef" tastes quite yummy. I also recall that McD's "burgers" taste a lot like salt and something's-not-quite-right grease.

I am literally drooling at the thought of a Whopper right now...

Thanks for the craving....

DON'T YOU KNOW I'M IN A TOWER CRANE!!!!

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Originally posted by Jayx1 propylene glycol is a popular additive to foods which is the main ingredient in antifreeze. Im not a fan of additives at all. But often times i question shock articles like this. Yeah ammonia isnt pleasant but sometimes the compound is slightly different or it has a different reaction with other compounds which makes it perfectly safe. Or for example they will say "used in this and this product" which makes it sound lethal. Meanwhile we could say that "water" is used in cleaning products and make the same arguement. Im not nec defending processed foods. I wish it was easier to avoid them (and i admit i love a good burger).

brb dumping windex on my burger

watch Food Inc.

it's pretty fucked up

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 brb dumping windex on my burger

Amazing Jonathan:

"I used to have a problem with running around naked all the time..."

- drinks bottle of Windex and wipes mouth -

"This stops me from streaking."

The Ear: id like to see you contribute something meaningful

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Originally posted by Jayx1 The Ear: id like to see you contribute something meaningful

ruh roh..

Re: He gave a quarter and his order - small fries, Big Mac!

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Originally posted by PivotTechno You can get the same effect by opening a can of dog food made with beef byproducts, spraying it with ammonia, and swallowing it. That is essentially what you're eating when you order a fast food burger.

mmm, yummy

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Originally posted by Jayx1 The Ear: id like to see you contribute something meaningful

What? Like a continuous stream of right-wing drivel interspersed with near hypocrytical statements placating fears of potentially lethal food additives because the perpetrators happen to be big business?

or something more like this:

I just recalled the human body has it in us all the time. There is tons of ammonia in the bladder at all times...?? i wonder how bad it really is....

The human body also has shit in it at all times. Do we really want to eat the stuff?

(set up for 2 girls 1 cup jokes is complete)

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Originally posted by mute79 watch Food Inc. it's pretty fucked up

Seen it, meh it's kinda very one-sided (just like most documentaries). Although the chicken thing was pretty interesting. But that mom talking about her boy thing is just trying to get the viewers sympathy.


I agree with what Jayx1 said, they probably just twisted it to make it sound really bad.


Here's another one to make people think.

http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/bugjuice.asp

Bugs are used to make a shade of red food colour.

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Originally posted by The Ear The human body also has shit in it at all times. Do we really want to eat the stuff? (set up for 2 girls 1 cup jokes is complete)

this is a bit different than that. ammonia is an abundant chemical found naturally ammonium nitrate. Its not like its man made like some chemicals that may have more toxicity than ammonia alone... i may be wrong but from what i know about organics it's not that un-natural...

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Originally posted by I_Am_Vince Seen it, meh it's kinda very one-sided (just like most documentaries). Although the chicken thing was pretty interesting. But that mom talking about her boy thing is just trying to get the viewers sympathy. I agree with what Jayx1 said, they probably just twisted it to make it sound really bad.

lol, how can you twist a fact that 1 out of every 2 kids born after the year 2000 will develop diabetes?!

that alone is mind blowing, aside from all the other facts the documentary points out

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Originally posted by mute79 watch Food Inc. it's pretty fucked up

It really wasn't as informative as it should have been. I did enjoy watching it, and it did wake me up, but I was hoping for more actual information.

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Originally posted by mute79 lol, how can you twist a fact that 1 out of every 2 kids born after the year 2000 will develop diabetes?! that alone is mind blowing, aside from all the other facts the documentary points out

Sorry, but you cannot actually prove that. We are only 10 years into the 2000's. Plus, what local is that stat restricted to? So many things wrong with something like that.

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Originally posted by Orko It really wasn't as informative as it should have been. I did enjoy watching it, and it did wake me up, but I was hoping for more actual information.

lol, were you asleep or something?

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Originally posted by mute79 lol, were you asleep or something?

No, I watched very intently, and have just started an The Omnivorous's Dilemma. The mom crying, the same line 'so much of our food comes from the same place'...it was a bit repetitive. They had a great opportunity to introduce more facts, but they didn't.

I'm not saying the movie was bad, but just that I was hoping for more facts.

I find it a bit ironic, that people would be up in arms about it being in their food, but have no problem spraying it (and other chemicals) all over their house, where they are inhaling it in higher concentration.

How many of you use febreeze, and scented products, and chemicals all over the house?

Yes, take notice of what is in your food, and demand cleaner food, safer food. But, do not be drawn in by 'shocking' articles, and then just ignore everything else. Food safety is quickly becoming the new fad, now that global warming has died down. Everybody wanted to reduce their carbon foot print, but how many people actually cleaned up their way of living as a whole?

Be skeptical, be aware, and be informed.

How else do you you think you are going to get $1 hamburgers, that are made by a national chain, with billions of dollars of expenses? It is not rocket science, they are cutting corners somewhere.

Why is it that when Jay says something, it's right wing bullshit but when others say the same thing, its an acceptable opinion???

Probably because most people stopped reading what Jay writes long ago.

i bet that most people who complain about ammonia in their burgers are also smokers....which inhale all kinds of chemicals lol

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