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Posted by cryophonik on Jan-09-2010 17:53:

New Virus TI OS - 2010 NAMM sneak preview

Sneak preview of new Virus TI OS sounds


Posted by alanzo on Jan-09-2010 18:41:

http://www.virus.info/api/download/...view%202010.mp3

Direct audio download link ...

I'm guessing they're adding a guitar amp simulator w/ feedback. Maybe some sort of audio gate. A flanger. Some sort of glitch effect.

Whatever they're adding, though, this demo sounds awesome. To my ears this sounds like the best addition since the TI came out. This distortion especially is impressive. The formant/granular wavetables were really lame IMO and the tape delay sounded like ass compared to UA's RE-201. The addition of "Character" was nice but really only did a bit of EQing. The "glitchbox" or whatever they added was also lame since you had to have it in a specific mode -- made it seem only useful for live use.

Hey Cryo, how do you like your Polar? Do you think you could ever use it without the VSTi plugin? I'm thinking of getting a polar and using it like a traditional synth. I think I would like it more than my desktop hooked up through USB since it'll have the keys attached and I'll forbid myself from using the USB interface even for MIDI.


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-09-2010 18:56:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo

Whatever they're adding, though, this demo sounds awesome.



Oh yeah!

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
Hey Cryo, how do you like your Polar? Do you think you could ever use it without the VSTi plugin? I'm thinking of getting a polar and using it like a traditional synth. I think I would like it more than my desktop hooked up through USB since it'll have the keys attached and I'll forbid myself from using the USB interface even for MIDI.


I love my Polar (except, as I mentioned in other threads, I want the larger keyboard version). I actually really like the Virus Control when I'm working on a project, but I often bounce it down in real-time through the analog outputs once I get the Virus parts where I want them - there really is an audible difference in sound quality between the USB and analog outs.

Also, I use my Virus as a MIDI controller (via USB) for my soft synths, whereas my Alesis QS functions primarily as a weighted controller for my hardware (and sometimes software) synths. The Virus' Remote Templates are actually a very cool and under-appreciated feature - they're much less annoying to work with than my old Novation Remote AutoMap feature was.


Posted by alanzo on Jan-09-2010 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Oh yeah!



I love my Polar (except, as I mentioned in other threads, I want the larger keyboard version). I actually really like the Virus Control when I'm working on a project, but I often bounce it down in real-time through the analog outputs once I get the Virus parts where I want them - there really is an audible difference in sound quality between the USB and analog outs.

Also, I use my Virus as a MIDI controller (via USB) for my soft synths, whereas my Alesis QS functions primarily as a weighted controller for my hardware (and sometimes software) synths. The Virus' Remote Templates are actually a very cool and under-appreciated feature - they're much less annoying to work with than my old Novation Remote AutoMap feature was.


Do you ever use the actual knobs on your Virus? I never did on my Desktop...


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-09-2010 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
Do you ever use the actual knobs on your Virus?


All the time, especially with the Remote Templates. I think it's probably more convenient to use them on one of the keyboard versions if it's sitting right in front of you and functioning as your MIDI controller, as opposed to having a desktop version mounted in a rack.


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-09-2010 19:09:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo

I'm guessing they're adding a guitar amp simulator w/ feedback. Maybe some sort of audio gate. A flanger. Some sort of glitch effect.



I wonder if they'll be adding some new filter types as well?

One improvement I'd love to see in a future OS is the ability to copy arp patterns from one slot to another to create different variations, and more user slots. Maybe they'll surprise me with this OS.


Posted by alanzo on Jan-09-2010 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
All the time, especially with the Remote Templates. I think it's probably more convenient to use them on one of the keyboard versions if it's sitting right in front of you and functioning as your MIDI controller, as opposed to having a desktop version mounted in a rack.


I intend to use the Polar as my primary keyboard controller. I guess having only three octaves bugs you? I know when I had four octaves on the Nord Lead 3 it never bothered me.

quote:
I wonder if they'll be adding some new filter types as well?


I couldn't tell if there were new filter types but it mostly sounded like new FX.


Posted by tehlord on Jan-09-2010 19:36:

Great find. I'm so glad I sold mine now

I used to use my Ti 61 as a master controller and thought it worked great. Saying that i'm not one for over complex automap style stuff and just set up a few simple templates in Cubase


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-09-2010 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
I intend to use the Polar as my primary keyboard controller. I guess having only three octaves bugs you?


Yeah, I play a lot of my parts into my sequencer so I tend to use a wide range of the keyboard (especially with pads) and I also sit and play my soft synths a lot (e.g., when coming up with ideas) - 37 keys is very limiting for two-handed playing. The other time when it can be annoying is with sample-based instruments (e.g., Kontakt, EWQL Voices of Passion, RA, Symphonic Choirs, etc.) where the keyswitches are assigned to the lowest notes (e.g., C0-E0) - it's a PITA to try to play the actual voice (usually assigned to the middle/upper ranges), transpose down 2-3 octaves just to keyswitch to a new articulation, then transpose back up 2-3 octaves to continue playing - totally disrupts my workflow.


Posted by alanzo on Jan-09-2010 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Yeah, I play a lot of my parts into my sequencer so I tend to use a wide range of the keyboard (especially with pads) and I also sit and play my soft synths a lot (e.g., when coming up with ideas) - 37 keys is very limiting for two-handed playing. The other time when it can be annoying is with sample-based instruments (e.g., Kontakt, EWQL Voices of Passion, RA, Symphonic Choirs, etc.) where the keyswitches are assigned to the lowest notes (e.g., C0-E0) - it's a PITA to try to play the actual voice (usually assigned to the middle/upper ranges), transpose down 2-3 octaves just to keyswitch to a new articulation, then transpose back up 2-3 octaves to continue playing - totally disrupts my workflow.


Hrmm. Maybe I'll get the full TI keys, then. The polar is just so shmexy.


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-09-2010 19:44:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
The polar is just so shmexy.


Yeah it is - maybe Access will surprise us at NAMM and release a "Whiteout" version of the 61-key TI2, like they did with the desktop.


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-09-2010 19:46:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
I used to use my Ti 61 as a master controller and thought it worked great. Saying that i'm not one for over complex automap style stuff and just set up a few simple templates in Cubase


Yeah, that's why I hated the Novation AutoMap - it was just too much (and rarely worked correctly IME). The Virus Remotes can be as simple as you want them - I primarily just assign the most common parameters (e.g., filter, envelope, and LFO controls, performance/expression controls).


Posted by Owsey on Jan-09-2010 19:49:

I can't listen to the demo right now, but I will do ASAP.

On a side note - is anybody running Windows 32bit having problems downloading the new OS?


Posted by tehlord on Jan-09-2010 19:51:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
Hrmm. Maybe I'll get the full TI keys, then. The polar is just so shmexy.


I've heard another rumour that there's a gloss black 61 arriving this year..........


quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Yeah, that's why I hated the Novation AutoMap - it was just too much (and rarely worked correctly IME). The Virus Remotes can be as simple as you want them - I primarily just assign the most common parameters (e.g., filter, envelope, and LFO controls, performance/expression controls).


Me too, I bought a remote SL compact just before Christmas and it was an appaling lash up of lego and bad code.

Shocking that they dared to release it tbh.


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-09-2010 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Owsey2008
On a side note - is anybody running Windows 32bit having problems downloading the new OS?


I assume you're referring to OS3.3.4? I downloaded it a few weeks ago with no problem.

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
I've heard another rumour that there's a gloss black 61 arriving this year..........


Hmmm....maybe a good thing I held off on buying a TI1?


Posted by daveth on Jan-10-2010 02:42:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
http://www.virus.info/api/download/...view%202010.mp3

Direct audio download link ...

I'm guessing they're adding a guitar amp simulator w/ feedback. Maybe some sort of audio gate. A flanger. Some sort of glitch effect.
Sounds like comb and/or formant filters to me

KICK ASS. Been asking for that for ages


Posted by alanzo on Jan-10-2010 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by daveth
Sounds like comb and/or formant filters to me

KICK ASS. Been asking for that for ages


Ooh comb filters would be very nice.


Posted by Energy_3 on Jan-10-2010 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Yeah it is - maybe Access will surprise us at NAMM and release a "Whiteout" version of the 61-key TI2, like they did with the desktop.


that would be cool


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-10-2010 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
Ooh comb filters would be very nice.


Yeah, so would formant filters.


Posted by alanzo on Jan-10-2010 02:50:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Yeah, so would formant filters.


What's a formant filter?


Posted by daveth on Jan-10-2010 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
What's a formant filter?
Well as far as I know formants are the spectral peaks associated with vowel sounds produced by human vocal cords. So I'm not 100% sure but my guess is formant filters screw with frequencies associated with these sounds

My reason for guessing this is the patch that starts at 3:09 in the demo , sounds like it's talking
Whatever these features are they sound bloody usable!


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-10-2010 03:20:

quote:
Originally posted by daveth
Well as far as I know formants are the spectral peaks associated with vowel sounds produced by human vocal cords. So I'm not 100% sure but my guess is formant filters screw with frequencies associated with these sounds



Yeah, I think that's pretty much spot on. From my limited technical understanding, a formant filter is a series of band-pass filters with a fixed resonance that can be modulated to create vowel-like sounds (but, that also may not be 100% technically accurate).


Posted by Fledz on Jan-10-2010 05:12:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
What's a formant filter?

You're kidding right?


Posted by alanzo on Jan-10-2010 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
You're kidding right?


Never heard of one before now.


Posted by aNYthing on Jan-10-2010 14:17:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
Never heard of one before now.


it's a filter that gives a pseudo speech capability to your synth, making it possible to have your synth 'sing' "do you feel.... Like we do".


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