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Looking For Good Compilations

Yeah yeah, another recommendation thread.

I'm looking for a few good trance albums that came out in the earlier history of trance. Before supersaws & epic breakdowns were common place in every song (I'm looking at you, Anjunabeats ). So stuff in the same vein of the early Tiesto mixes: Summerbreeze, In Search Of Sunrise 1 & 2 & the Magick series.

I'd like albums that actually go somewhere as they progress. Something I could play in the car & just forget about touching it again. Specifically, I'm looking for compilations that were mixed by a non-DJ Mag Top 10. So no Armin, Paul, Tijs, or Oakie please.

THANK YOU!

That's kinda hard since those guys were the ones making the awesome mixed CDs back then.

VA - Beginners Guide [Platipus]

Re: Looking For Good Compilations

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Originally posted by couch-potato Yeah yeah, another recommendation thread. I'm looking for a few good trance albums that came out in the earlier history of trance. Before supersaws & epic breakdowns were common place in every song (I'm looking at you, Anjunabeats ). So stuff in the same vein of the early Tiesto mixes: Summerbreeze, In Search Of Sunrise 1 & 2 & the Magick series. I'd like albums that actually go somewhere as they progress. Something I could play in the car & just forget about touching it again. Specifically, I'm looking for compilations that were mixed by a non-DJ Mag Top 10. So no Armin, Paul, Tijs, or Oakie please. THANK YOU!

That's kind of difficult since the ISOS, Magik compilations came out around 99-2000 while the earlier years of trance we are talking about 1990-1994. But I would suggest you check out compilations from Platipus, Superstition, Eye Q Records, Rising High Records.

Try some of the old Euphoria compilations, such as the first three. They're a bit quirky in the mixing and programming, but definitely from a different era of trance mixes.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 That's kind of difficult since the ISOS, Magik compilations came out around 99-2000 while the earlier years of trance we are talking about 1990-1994. But I would suggest you check out compilations from Platipus, Superstition, Eye Q Records, Rising High Records.

1999 is eleven years ago now, and unquestionably an earlier period of trance. Is it necessary to repeat this sermon every single time? Recommend him something he asked for, not what suits your ideological crusade.

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Originally posted by woscar That's kinda hard since those guys were the ones making the awesome mixed CDs back then.

+1

i came across this while going through some old boxes the other day, and at the time i quite liked it.

http://www.amazon.com/Trance-Planet.../ref=pd_sim_m_1

i'm not suggesting for what you are looking for because you want shit

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Try some of the old Euphoria compilations, such as the first three. They're a bit quirky in the mixing and programming, but definitely from a different era of trance mixes. 1999 is eleven years ago now, and unquestionably an earlier period of trance. Is it necessary to repeat this sermon every single time? Recommend him something he asked for, not what suits your ideological crusade.

This has nothing to do with my ideological perception since I also feel that it sometimes gets a tad too much.
If we say that trance have been around for 20 years now there is no need to ignore the fact that the firt half 1989-1997 sounds much different than the trance was around the shift of the millenia. I am not talking the usual quality talk here. I am talking about the sound of it. I would not say that the 1999 is "earlier years" when we are talking about a timespan of 20 years.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 I am talking about the sound of it. I would not say that the 1999 is "earlier years" when we are talking about a timespan of 20 years.

If we're talking about a 20 year time span, 1999 is in the first 10 years of that span and therefore closer to the beginning than to the present. So you would be utterly wrong.

You're also lying, because rather than saying "I wouldn't class 1999 as earlier, but here's some helpful recommendations" you said "I wouldn't class 1999 as earlier, so here are some things from a period you aren't actually asking for." Yet another example of this rather pathetic desire to educate about trance in every post rather than actually helping people out.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J If we're talking about a 20 year time span, 1999 is in the first 10 years of that span and therefore closer to the beginning than to the present. So you would be utterly wrong. You're also lying, because rather than saying "I wouldn't class 1999 as earlier, but here's some helpful recommendations" you said "I wouldn't class 1999 as earlier, so here are some things from a period you aren't actually asking for." Yet another example of this rather pathetic desire to educate about trance in every post rather than actually helping people out.

You have to be kidding me if you think that the style of trance at the year 1999 is closer to the early years than it is to the trance of today.
Also the guy clearly asked for CDs with none of the big names. So in case of that you have to dig deeper for the earlier years. I can't
Although now when I read his first post it's kind of contradictive. He gives examples of Magik and ISOS but don't want anything by Tiesto or Oakie or any big names.

We clearly must have a different opinion of the style of sound. I would definetly say that the majority of stuff that was producde in 99-00 have a closer resemblance to the trance of today than it have to the stuff that was produced in the early 90s.

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Originally posted by woscar That's kinda hard since those guys were the ones making the awesome mixed CDs back then.

also this guy obviously noticed the contradiction of the fist post.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 You have to be kidding me if you think that the style of trance at the year 1999 is closer to the early years than it is to the trance of today.

Do you actually see him talk about style/sound anywhere in that post?

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Do you actually see him talk about style/sound anywhere in that post?

He asked for:

1. something that does not have big breakdowns or supersaws
2. not something by the big names
3. came in the early history of trance

I would suggest something by the labels I've mentioned.
Anyone else might recommend anything else.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 You have to be kidding me if you think that the style of trance at the year 1999 is closer to the early years than it is to the trance of today. Also the guy clearly asked for CDs with none of the big names. So in case of that you have to dig deeper for the earlier years. I can't Although now when I read his first post it's kind of contradictive. He gives examples of Magik and ISOS but don't want anything by Tiesto or Oakie or any big names. We clearly must have a different opinion of the style of sound. I would definetly say that the majority of stuff that was producde in 99-00 have a closer resemblance to the trance of today than it have to the stuff that was produced in the early 90s.

I totally agree.

Compilations:

Trancemaster (Vision Soundcarriers) (1992-)
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Trancemaster-Vol-I/release/54719

Trance Nation (Edel)(1994-)
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Trance-Nation-94/release/47713

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Originally posted by RebeL9 He asked for: 1. something that does not have big breakdowns or supersaws 2. not something by the big names 3. came in the early history of trance I would suggest something by the labels I've mentioned. Anyone else might recommend anything else.

Um... I wasn't talking about the OP.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 You have to be kidding me if you think that the style of trance at the year 1999 is closer to the early years than it is to the trance of today.

I said nothing about style. The 1999 era of trance may not sound particularly like classic trance, but it's unquestionably a different period of trance history to the present: different key names, different key labels, different clubbing context, different production methods and different sounds. It's an earlier period by every definition and interpretation.

But let's be clear: you're used to newbies referring to 1999 epic trance as "trance classics" or "old school trance" so you have your cut and paste patronising response you deliver without any thought or any consideration of actually helping people.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 Although now when I read his first post it's kind of contradictive. He gives examples of Magik and ISOS but don't want anything by Tiesto or Oakie or any big names.

It's a pretty simple concept. He will already own the obvious compilations from the big names, so he wants something in their ilk that isn't as well known. And despite what you seem to think, more trance compilations were released in that period than what Tiesto and Oakey put their names to.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I said nothing about style. The 1999 era of trance may not sound particularly like classic trance, but it's unquestionably a different period of trance history to the present: different key names, different key labels, different clubbing context, different production methods and different sounds. It's an earlier period by every definition and interpretation. But let's be clear: you're used to newbies referring to 1999 epic trance as "trance classics" or "old school trance" so you have your cut and paste patronising response you deliver without any thought or any consideration of actually helping people. It's a pretty simple concept. He will already own the obvious compilations from the big names, so he wants something in their ilk that aren't as well known. And despite what you seem to think, more trance compilations were released in that period than what Tiesto and Oakey put their names to.

I must have interpreted his original post as "earlier" as in the earliest years. Not as something from it's mid-life range. That's why I came off confused. I agree that the vibe of 1999 is different to the earliest years and also different to the vibe of today. That applies not only to melodic or progressive trance but also to psy trance.

I am kind used to average trance.nu type of posts about trance hence my answer. This was recently posted over at the trance.nu board in a thread about "which is your favourite year of trance?"

Some guy:

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89-95 Trance

some other guy:

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There was a Trance between those years ? must be Euro-Dance all DJ Precision (NL) sets = Real Trance

Some people actually think educating is helping, does the motive behind it really have that much to say? And even if patronising, if the suggestions are good who gives a shit?

I fully understand how people who have been here for almost a decade have their cut and paste answers to most newbies asking for whatever. Most of the time they deserve all the patronising and flak they get, because they're lazy ignorant kids who expect everything to be handed to them on a platter. You have to expect a couple of innocent casualties.

Is it just me or does J seem like in a bad mood? I'm probably next.

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Originally posted by Redd Is it just me or does J seem like in a bad mood?

Blame me...

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Blame me...

It's you and your fucking Scooter haha

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Originally posted by Redd Some people actually think educating is helping, does the motive behind it really have that much to say? And even if patronising, if the suggestions are good who gives a shit? I fully understand how people who have been here for almost a decade have their cut and paste answers to most newbies asking for whatever. Most of the time they deserve all the patronising and flak they get, because they're lazy ignorant kids who expect everything to be handed to them on a platter. You have to expect a couple of innocent casualties.

Couch-potato is not a newbie and he has undoubtedly heard it all before. If you can't even be fucking bothered to listen to the person and consider they might not need educating, why the hell should you expect any newbies to listen to you? There's a reason so many of them on TA develop a persecution complex.

This patronising manifesto is annoying because it's elitism of the irritating kind. Imagine some jazz or classical snob who responds to every request thread by recommending irrelevant records on the grounds jazz or classical are obviously superior to dance music and they're educating people on good music. It'd be annoying as hell.

This package is just too much regardless of what's going on! I'm skimming for some trancy breaks lately.

VA - Laser kissed Trance (Mixed by Above & Beyond) (1994)
VA - Space Age series (mixed by Dj Montana) (A bit on the techno side though)
VA - Fear of a Silver Planet (Mixed by James Holden)

Check these out.

2004 not 1994 lmao

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Couch-potato is not a newbie and he has undoubtedly heard it all before. If you can't even be fucking bothered to listen to the person and consider they might not need educating, why the hell should you expect any newbies to listen to you? There's a reason so many of them on TA develop a persecution complex. This patronising manifesto is annoying because it's elitism of the irritating kind. Imagine some jazz or classical snob who responds to every request thread by recommending irrelevant records on the grounds jazz or classical are obviously superior to dance music and they're educating people on good music. It'd be annoying as hell.

I agree, my post was just an attempt to maybe explain why it's like this and to give a different perspective. It's probably all old news to you, but the high horse vs. Rebel9 just seemed too onesided. My point was that even though not doing it in the most politically correct way, he bothers to reply to posts with what I would call good suggestions. He doesn't give examples of good heavy metal when someone asks for blues (as in your example with jazz). How bad can it be to suggest some old classics to someone who thinks he is looking for trance, but is actually just here for DJ Sammy - Heaven?

About the newbies listening to me, I don't give a f really. I've grown used to spotting the shitty kind miles away. Which I also think most users on this board more or less has. I sincerely think Rebel9 meant to help out with his suggestions in this thread. He understood earlier as the 5 first years of trance, you decided to understand it as anything before half-way to present day. If we go by the first 5 years his reasoning in the first post is valid and not just patronising for "his personal crusade". Attacking someone for being elitist is really throwing rocks in a glass-house. As it would be if I did it.

edit: sorry for the OT, I just thought this was something worth discussing.

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