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Posted by subsequent on Jan-20-2010 19:16:

Subsequent Mastering survey

Yo, this is Joe from Subsequent Mastering, I was just wondering if any of you had a moment spare to fill in an online questionaire for me? I am looking to expand the studios capabilities, so it's basically just a bit of market research so I can spend my gear money wisely!

http://subsequentmastering.wufoo.co...stering-survey/

thanks chaps

Joe @ Subsequent Mastering


Posted by Morvan on Jan-20-2010 19:19:

maybe spellcheck it first.


Posted by subsequent on Jan-20-2010 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Morvan
maybe spellcheck it first.


What specifically, sorry? I am dislexic and rather nackered to boot!


Posted by tehlord on Jan-20-2010 20:13:

I think you might be barking up the wrong tree with the survey. The people who believe that analog automatically means better probably aren't the ones that would ever pay for mastering.

I'd probably invest a bit of money on a slicker website with streamable audio demos (maybe you have them already, I didin't see them though) and blue text on a black background is almost epilepsy inducing!

I genuinly wish you luck though


Posted by RichieV on Jan-20-2010 20:24:

what K system do you have your setup calibrated to ?


Posted by Ry Thomas on Jan-20-2010 20:52:

How do you get near your mouse when your sweet spot is 4 foot from your desk?


Posted by DJ RANN on Jan-20-2010 23:12:

How do you master with speakers that are prosumer at best (and turd in my personal opinion), not to mention the fact that large proportion of people on here have better monitors.

This is especially important when you are providing in the box mastering, as the only bit of good external kit HAS to be your speakers (and audio interface obviously).


Posted by alanzo on Jan-21-2010 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
How do you master with speakers that are prosumer at best (and turd in my personal opinion), not to mention the fact that large proportion of people on here have better monitors.

This is especially important when you are providing in the box mastering, as the only bit of good external kit HAS to be your speakers (and audio interface obviously).


Yeah, that was the first thing I noticed.


Posted by Ian Gomes on Jan-21-2010 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
what K system do you have your setup calibrated to ?


?? what an odd question


Posted by Ry Thomas on Jan-22-2010 14:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian Gomes
?? what an odd question


how?


Posted by DJ RANN on Jan-22-2010 18:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Ry Thomas
how?


+1. Possibly one of the most important things in a mastering environment.


Posted by alanzo on Jan-22-2010 22:39:

WTF is a K System?


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-22-2010 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
WTF is a K System?


It's a monitor/room calibration system developed by God...I mean Bob Katz.


Posted by Ry Thomas on Jan-22-2010 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
It's a monitor/room calibration system developed by God...I mean Bob Katz.


Yeah so you were half right on the first bit Dave


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-22-2010 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Ry Thomas
Yeah so you were half right on the first bit Dave


Yeah, but which half?

BTW, where'd the OP go? Did we scare off another mastering engineer?


Posted by Ry Thomas on Jan-22-2010 22:57:

You have a great DAC going into average, misplaced monitors, using not a lot of software i dont own/ cant use myself, sorry but i'll refrain from your services here, thats about as polite as i can be


Posted by Ry Thomas on Jan-22-2010 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Yeah, but which half?

BTW, where'd the OP go? Did we scare off another mastering engineer?


It's a monitor/room calibration system developed by God.


Posted by DEAD_MOOSE on Jan-22-2010 23:47:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
How do you master with speakers that are prosumer at best (and turd in my personal opinion), not to mention the fact that large proportion of people on here have better monitors.


Better speakers don't make a better mastering engineer. Maybe he knows his monitors better than those with the better monitors.


Posted by Ry Thomas on Jan-22-2010 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by DEAD_MOOSE
Better speakers don't make a better mastering engineer. Maybe he knows his monitors better than those with the better monitors.



his correct placement amplifies your statement . . . .


Posted by alanzo on Jan-23-2010 00:15:

quote:
Originally posted by DEAD_MOOSE
Better speakers don't make a better mastering engineer. Maybe he knows his monitors better than those with the better monitors.


He'd be best off keeping the ones he currently has until he can acclimate to better ones. For the same reason you see several studios with something like Yamaha NS-10s and something much more modern right next to them.


Posted by RichieV on Jan-23-2010 00:33:

haven't ever been to a mastering studio with NS-10s.


Posted by kitphillips on Jan-23-2010 05:30:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
haven't ever been to a mastering studio with NS-10s.


But bro, ns-10s are like fully pro. You get me? My friend masters his tracks using reason, and he uses NS-10s. You get me?

Anyway, I'm going to set myself up with my teac hifi speakers and some cracked waves plugins and offer mastering for only $10 per track. Who's interested?

I'll use my awesome digidesign interface (mbox) and pro tools for the maximum of professionalism.


Posted by DJ RANN on Jan-23-2010 07:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DEAD_MOOSE
Better speakers don't make a better mastering engineer. Maybe he knows his monitors better than those with the better monitors.


maybe he does know his speakers damn well but I for one won't pay money to someone who is entirely in the box, using speakers that are worse than my own bedroom setup.

There's a physical limitation of those speakers (: they sound like shit), combined with the incorrect placement as shown, which makes me think that setup will not let him hear the flaws in music or give a true monitoring environment to use that skill.

Better speakers don't make a better mastering engineer but shit speakers aren't going to help a good mastering engineer do their job.


Posted by kitphillips on Jan-23-2010 13:52:

quote:
Originally posted by DEAD_MOOSE
Better speakers don't make a better mastering engineer. Maybe he knows his monitors better than those with the better monitors.


I used to think similarly, but having used various different monitors I now realise that no matter how well you know your monitors, poor quality monitoring will obscure important details about your music. Its not a matter of some information being maximised and some minimised by a pair of speakers, its a matter of some information simply being obscured completely.


Posted by Ian Gomes on Jan-26-2010 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
+1. Possibly one of the most important things in a mastering environment.


There are a LOT of things in mastering that are more inmportant than what k-system you use... heck lots of mastering engineers don't even use the k-system. Just because bob katz says it's a good system (yes i've read the book) doesn't mean it's required to make a good master.

I would like to repeat, there are a lot more important things in mastering than what k system you use.


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