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Posted by Swamper on Jan-21-2010 03:52:

Need some input for a 'DJ Contest' on TA....

...the winner would have a dj gig at a 2-day festival. That's all I can say right now

I'll post this in DJ booth too but I need some input from within here. It'll be limited mainly to the Trance genre and I'm thinking to limit sets to 1 hour but I need additional criteria to help make it interesting.

Perhaps:

-Limited only to tracks from the previous...3 years?
-Must include at least 1 track produced by a TA?

Thoughts?


Posted by MSZ on Jan-21-2010 04:06:

interesting idea.

remember that 246 radio contest? in the later stages i believe they required that the dj spin his own production, i think thats a neat idea.


Posted by rulzz on Jan-21-2010 04:36:

you should clearly give restrictions in terms of mp3 quality(ie 192 only via sendspace,megaupload etc) will make your life easier , naming of files, clear genre restrictions

maybe post full judging criteria (ie is this mix ripped from charts? or featuring more underground producers ) etc. marks for originality and overall flow...


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-21-2010 05:24:

Re: Need some input for a 'DJ Contest' on TA....

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
-Limited only to tracks from the previous...3 years?

Please no...
quote:

-Must include at least 1 track produced by a TA?

...but this one I like!


Posted by Sushipunk on Jan-21-2010 05:43:

Re: Need some input for a 'DJ Contest' on TA....

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
I'll post this in DJ booth too


Oh, so the DJ Promo forum isn't good enough for this, HUH?

*walks out in a huff*


Posted by Kismet7 on Jan-21-2010 06:00:

why limit to just one genre?


Posted by DjWoody on Jan-21-2010 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
why limit to just one genre?


Cuz this is TRANCEADDICT.com. lol

You should also emphesize wheather this is a live set or an edited set. Anyone can create a mix on Mixmeister or Ableton, but they can't mix for shit live. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want the winner to completely suck live at the festival.


Posted by EgosXII on Jan-21-2010 06:57:

would this be open to every country?? or just the us?

sounds good though

and it is a trance site, so fair enough having trance mixes LOL


Posted by Acton on Jan-21-2010 08:37:

Re: Need some input for a 'DJ Contest' on TA....

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Perhaps:

-Limited only to tracks from the previous...3 years?
-Must include at least 1 track produced by a TA?

Thoughts?


I don't think it should be restricted to tracks released within a certain time frame, but having at least one track produced by a TA in it is a quality idea


Posted by Acton on Jan-21-2010 08:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
why limit to just one genre?


quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
It'll be limited mainly to the Trance genre


Posted by RichieV on Jan-21-2010 16:21:

i would keep it as short as possible.


Posted by Swamper on Jan-21-2010 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
why limit to just one genre?


..because the winner would be playing a set at a Trance stage...otherwise I'd open it up to House/Techno/whatever.

I said the suggested limit on tracks not older than 3 years so that people don't go out grabbing cookie-cutter 'hits'. I can remove the time restriction.

Also, good points on whether it is edited or liveset...maybe another requirement is that they've actually played gigs at clubs before. Nothing against bedroom DJs but this wouldn't be a suitable place for a first gig, lol.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jan-21-2010 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
why limit to just one genre?

maybe its a trance festival?


Posted by Acton on Jan-21-2010 18:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
...maybe another requirement is that they've actually played gigs at clubs before. Nothing against bedroom DJs but this wouldn't be a suitable place for a first gig, lol.


I'm in agreement with this, no disrespect to bedroom DJ's though.


Posted by Storyteller on Jan-21-2010 18:39:

That would significantly increase some people's chances .

I'd love to enter if progressive is considered trancy enough. Oh well, I play trancier music than I produce anyways.


Posted by Acton on Jan-21-2010 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
That would significantly increase some people's chances .


Well, inevitably that action would.

But at the end of the day, the winner will be playing at a festival, representing Tranceaddict. Would you be 100% comfortable sticking someone behind the decks, who has zero live experience? There is a lot to DJ'ing besides being able to mix records, as I'm sure you can appreciate.



Allow me to say this again..

quote:
Originally posted by Acton
no disrespect to bedroom DJ's though.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-21-2010 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
I said the suggested limit on tracks not older than 3 years so that people don't go out grabbing cookie-cutter 'hits'. I can remove the time restriction.

I don't think a time restriction is necessary in that case - just mention in the "official" competition thread (or whatever it is) that playing big tunes from start to finish probably won't get you picked.

I mean if I were to enter I'd most likely play older stuff, just lesser known.


Posted by Lews on Jan-21-2010 19:01:

Sounds like a really cool idea.

I'd say no limits on the age of tracks, but having a TA production in it would be cool


Posted by Subtle on Jan-21-2010 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Acton
I'm in agreement with this, no disrespect to bedroom DJ's though.


Posted by Acton on Jan-21-2010 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle


Nothing has been decided by Swamper just yet


But I'm pretty sure one thing from here will be in the rules, the involvement of TA produced tunes .


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jan-21-2010 19:11:

#1 anything less than 10 years old is not allowed.


Posted by Acton on Jan-21-2010 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
#1 anything less than 10 years old is not allowed.


That's just ridiculous.

How is the competition going to be judged? Is that available for discussion, or is it just criteria for now?


Posted by mfitterer1 on Jan-22-2010 10:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Acton
Well, inevitably that action would.

But at the end of the day, the winner will be playing at a festival, representing Tranceaddict. Would you be 100% comfortable sticking someone behind the decks, who has zero live experience? There is a lot to DJ'ing besides being able to mix records, as I'm sure you can appreciate.



Allow me to say this again..


You forget not everyone lives in/near a city that has legitimate clubs playing edm. I know I have turned down shows in my area because of the lack of a legitimate scene for edm. However I consider myself in the upper echelon of dj who post sets here and I have played at many parties and on big systems. A dj and his abilities have nothing to do with location. If a bedroom producer is good enough to win a comp on here they have every right. If they blow up they have that on their record for good. Not to mention most of the big name dj's are less than average. I don't think there are more than a few people in this world who are good enough to win a dj contest who would do so and then flop at the actual event. They'd have to be very lucky to land that opportunity.

I like the 1 ta production. I don't like the restriction on what years tracks have to come from. I think it should be limited to an hour as you are going to get a lot of people interested.


Posted by Swamper on Jan-22-2010 22:11:

The problem with these sorts of things is one could re-do a set a million times and get it perfect (for submission) but would have difficulty doing the same thing uninterrupted live.

Criteria for judging would be the usual... track selection/programming, mixing, originality, etc. In the years I was a partner with WEMF, a 3-day electronic music festival - I handled the 'New Talent' DJ stage and I got a shitload of CDs mailed to me with mixes from all over (DnB, House, Trance, Techno, Breaks, etc.) and I had to pick the best ones and structure their time slots according to what style worked with what.

Now, whether I put the vote up to TAs, at the beginning (when all submissions are coming in) or at the end (after I've gone through them and picked out what I consider to be the best) is still undecided. Above all else, if I did go in that direction, I wouldn't want it to turn into a popularity contest for votes but rather to have the music speak for itself.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Jan-22-2010 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
The problem with these sorts of things is one could re-do a set a million times and get it perfect (for submission) but would have difficulty doing the same thing uninterrupted live.

Criteria for judging would be the usual... track selection/programming, mixing, originality, etc. In the years I was a partner with WEMF, a 3-day electronic music festival - I handled the 'New Talent' DJ stage and I got a shitload of CDs mailed to me with mixes from all over (DnB, House, Trance, Techno, Breaks, etc.) and I had to pick the best ones and structure their time slots according to what style worked with what.

Now, whether I put the vote up to TAs, at the beginning (when all submissions are coming in) or at the end (after I've gone through them and picked out what I consider to be the best) is still undecided. Above all else, if I did go in that direction, I wouldn't want it to turn into a popularity contest for votes but rather to have the music speak for itself.


Obviously anytime you have a contest there is the possibility of people cheating but if you think about it; how many djs are going to be ok with getting their time in the spotlight only to be laughed at by their peers and the fans. There's a time when reality has to set in and I seriously doubt that anyone who would win a contest from here (which is to my knowledge like the 2nd or 3rd biggest trance forum on the net) would not be able to rock the shit out of the crowd.

The best way to do this is for you to narrow down to a pre-determinded contingent of mixes and then make them anonymous and hold a public poll. This contest is a reflection on you so ultimately you should have say on who your contestants are.

Where will this festival be taking place? I know you said you can't reveal much at the moment but how about a continent. Will the dj's accomodation's be paid or unpaid? When are you going to post the contest? I'm definitely interested!


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