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does
big EDM labels such as Armada, Ajuna, vandit etc.

ACTUALLY listen to all the demos that get sent in.
because they say they recieve thousands a week or something so how could they listen to them all.

does anyone know any A&R ppl in these big labels. do they listen to a little bit and then if they dont like that they wont listen to the rest or do they give it a thorough listen?

curious is all.

I don't see why they would

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Originally posted by RichieV I don't see why they would

what listen to all of them?

They do actually 'listen' to all the tracks they get sent, providing it goes through the right channels.

How they actually listen to it, I can't comment on. But from their experience, I'm sure they could quickly scan through a track and automatically separate the weak tracks from the strong.

That being said, when Vandit caught a glimpse of one of Second Sun's tracks a few years ago, despite the fact is was weak production wise, they definitely saw potential in it. From there, they helped engineer the track to a professional standard and ending up signing them. I believe their first track with them was 'Empire', which eventually appeared on PvD's POD (albiet an edit).

If you're really enquiring as to if its worth sending your tracks out to these labels, then I would say yes. What do you have to loose?

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Originally posted by johncannons1 what listen to all of them?

I don't see why they would listen to anyone of them.
Labels buy finished products. They aren't looking for potential.
If someone is really good, chances are they will know about it before you get a chance to have it heard by your own demo submission.

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Originally posted by RichieV Labels buy finished products. They aren't looking for potential. If someone is really good, chances are they will know about it before you get a chance to have it heard by your own demo submission.

There is about 0% of me that agrees with you, the other 100% thinks you know jack shit.

Never said I was certain

I just don't see anyone going thru thousands of unsolicited tracks every day when EDM is so disposable. I would be surprised to hear that any of the big labels spend time going thru anonymous submissions.

As far as full of shit ? Your label owner seems to think otherwise.

cuz i made a song which fits ajunas label i dunno if its up to there standaard but i think its pretty close. but im wondering if they will actually listen to it.. im sending it through anyways but im just thinking will they actually listen to it haha.

hopefully they will!

so you rekon if they thought that it wasnt quite there but they still saw potential they might still contact you ?

Can't hurt but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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Originally posted by RichieV Never said I was certain

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Originally posted by RichieV Labels buy finished products. They aren't looking for potential.

This sounded rather 'certain' to me.

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Originally posted by RichieV As far as full of shit ? Your label owner seems to think otherwise.

My 'you know jack shit' comment was referring to your knowledge of how labels review submissions, seeing as though that's what I quoted and commented on.

your right it couldnt hurt.
and you never know theres a chance something may come out of it haha

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Originally posted by johncannons1 your right it couldnt hurt. and you never know theres a chance something may come out of it haha

If you're unsure, try posting your track in the Music Producer Promotion forum, to acquire some feedback. It might give you more confidence in yourself, or it might challenge you to make the track that little but better before sending it out.

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Originally posted by Acton This sounded rather 'certain' to me. My 'you know jack shit' comment was referring to your knowledge of how labels review submissions, seeing as though that's what I quoted and commented on.

as far as EDM buying finished products ?
Yes I am very certain of that. Nobody is grooming artists. THere might be a few exceptions but that is hardly logical to state as common place.

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Originally posted by RichieV Nobody is grooming artists. THere might be a few exceptions

Nice oxymoron there.

I'm not even sure how to respond to this anymore. If you can put forward any genuine experience then I will gladly listen and comment/give you my views on it. But until then, I don't see any point in you posting purely subjective views without any further information to support your statements. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but at least back it up with something.

Re: BIG record labels-

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Originally posted by johncannons1 does big EDM labels such as Armada, Ajuna, vandit etc. ACTUALLY listen to all the demos that get sent in. because they say they recieve thousands a week or something so how could they listen to them all. does anyone know any A&R ppl in these big labels. do they listen to a little bit and then if they dont like that they wont listen to the rest or do they give it a thorough listen? curious is all.

yes, they listen to all demo ! i tested it ! =)

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Originally posted by Acton Nice oxymoron there. I'm not even sure how to respond to this anymore. If you can put forward any genuine experience then I will gladly listen and comment/give you my views on it. But until then, I don't see any point in you posting purely subjective views without any further information to support your statements. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but at least back it up with something.

can you back up yours ?
Can you actually prove they listen to them ?
I know major labels for pop/rock/rnb don't , I don't see why EDM would be so different.

And you might want to research what an oxymoron is before using the term.

Re: Re: BIG record labels-

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Originally posted by 4everX yes, they listen to all demo ! i tested it ! =)

how did you test it ?

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Originally posted by RichieV can you back up yours ?

Yes, actually. I personally haven't submitted any of my tracks to the 'major labels' because my style is left-wing of the commercial dance scene. However, I have numerous friends (relatively unknown or not) who have submitted tracks to most of these 'major labels' and have either received constructive feedback from the submission or have ended up with their submission being signed and released by the label in question.

Can you back up any of your statements at all?

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Originally posted by RichieV I know major labels for pop/rock/rnb don't , I don't see why EDM would be so different.

Never mind, I think you have answered that already.

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Originally posted by RichieV And you might want to research what an oxymoron is before using the term.

Well your quotes contradicted each other, so whatever, let's turn this into an English lesson shall we?

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Originally posted by RichieV Nobody is grooming artists. THere might be a few exceptions

Saying that there are a few exceptions isn't a contradiction

you equate a few of your friends to every demo being listened to ? That is a slight over generalization no ?

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Originally posted by RichieV you equate a few of your friends to every demo being listened to ? That is a slight over generalization no ?

No, not at all.

I have had friends submit tracks who are both known and unknown artists, all have received feedback and/or signings. That's what I'm basing my opinions on.

Again, what are you basing yours on?

a close friend that is an AR rep at a 1 deep label at Sony.

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Originally posted by Acton If you're unsure, try posting your track in the Music Producer Promotion forum, to acquire some feedback. It might give you more confidence in yourself, or it might challenge you to make the track that little but better before sen ding it out.

narr it's not that I need help with it or anything it's done and everything is how I want it to be. I'm confident with it
I'm
just curious whether the big labels listen to all demos cuz they would have to constantly listening to new choons haha 24/7

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Originally posted by johncannons1 narr it's not that I need help with it or anything it's done and everything is how I want it to be. I'm confident with it I'm just curious whether the big labels listen to all demos cuz they would have to constantly listening to new choons haha 24/7

I think Acton was suggesting that only because its generally a good idea to get an objective opinion of your work from someone else. (As an aside, this is one of the things that a good mastering engineer should do well).

When we put so much work into our music it becomes difficult for us to properly judge our own work. If you post it up and the responses are generally positive, then you know that your on view of the track is on par with how other perceive it. I know that music I made a few years ago I thought was really good, but when I go back and listen now, I can tell it was not up to par. It's always good to get a second opinion as many times they hear things you do not notice. If you can take constructive criticism, it tends to make you a better producer.

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Originally posted by Eric J I think Acton was suggesting that only because its generally a good idea to get an objective opinion of your work from someone else. (As an aside, this is one of the things that a good mastering engineer should do well). When we put so much work into our music it becomes difficult for us to properly judge our own work. If you post it up and the responses are generally positive, then you know that your on view of the track is on par with how other perceive it. I know that music I made a few years ago I thought was really good, but when I go back and listen now, I can tell it was not up to par. It's always good to get a second opinion as many times they hear things you do not notice. If you can take constructive criticism, it tends to make you a better producer.

+1 good idea. Definitely worth doing even if you think its up to scratch

yup

because if someone that does have connections hears it then passes the word along,
This is a much better strategy than sending an mp3 demo.

It also doesn't cost you a thing. You should be doing anything and everything especially when it is free including sending the mp3 and posting it in the feedback section.

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