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Posted by ACK5 on Jan-28-2010 13:03:

Good trance Synth for £100-£200

Hi all


Can anyone suggest a good software synthesizer for around £100-£200.
I use Logic for my productions and is looking for something that I can make bases with. Cant seem to get a nice gritty baseline with the Logic stuff.

Was thinking of the NI Massive (if it supports Logic?)

Your thoughts will be appreciated.

ACK5


Posted by tehlord on Jan-28-2010 13:10:

Rob Papen Predator is excellent for bass sounds (so is Massive but the CPU usage is pretty high)

Also look at Sylenth1, it's very gritty indeed.


Posted by Waza on Jan-28-2010 13:18:

Your ES2 can create some excellent basslines as well as all the other stuff you want.

Check out 7skies soundbank for it.


http://www.standalone-music.com/?page_id=135

Waza


Posted by ACK5 on Jan-28-2010 13:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Waza
Your ES2 can create some excellent basslines as well as all the other stuff you want.

Check out 7skies soundbank for it.


http://www.standalone-music.com/?page_id=135

Waza



I'm very new to production and find the ES2 difficult to master. I believe that it is a very powerful tool but I just cant seem to get the sound that I'm after. Which isolators will you use to create a deep bass sound?


Posted by chrissundive on Jan-28-2010 13:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Waza
Your ES2 can create some excellent basslines as well as all the other stuff you want.

Check out 7skies soundbank for it.


http://www.standalone-music.com/?page_id=135

Waza


Wow, thats an amazing soundset. Wasn't suspecting ES2 to sound that good. Well I guess I've got something new to learn


Posted by Acton on Jan-28-2010 14:56:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Rob Papen Predator is excellent for bass sounds (so is Massive but the CPU usage is pretty high)

Also look at Sylenth1, it's very gritty indeed.


I can thoroughly recommend Predator, I love using it for my sub-melodies and the occasional lead. It's very versatile and really easy to work with.

quote:
Originally posted by ACK5
I'm very new to production and find the ES2 difficult to master.


Don't take the easy way out, learn it. You should always learn to utilise what you have as much as possible, before you venture out for other software/hardware, in my opinion.


Posted by tehlord on Jan-28-2010 15:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Acton
I can thoroughly recommend Predator, I love using it for my sub-melodies and the occasional lead. It's very versatile and really easy to work with.


I think RPs apparent favouring of hardcore sounds don't do it any favours tbh. The many hundreds of presets mostly don't show off what it can really do.

It's also got arguably the best FX section of any VST synth that can also be used as a standalone FX unit.


Posted by ACK5 on Jan-28-2010 16:03:

quote:

Don't take the easy way out, learn it. You should always learn to utilise what you have as much as possible, before you venture out for other software/hardware, in my opinion.


Very true. So my next question is can you make a warm gritty baseline with the ES2 and if so can you please give me some pointers?


Posted by Acton on Jan-28-2010 16:13:

quote:
Originally posted by ACK5
Very true. So my next question is can you make a warm gritty baseline with the ES2 and if so can you please give me some pointers?


I'm not an expert on Logic synths as it's not my DAW of choice, however, there are plenty of Logic users here who I'm sure would be able to provide more useful information on ES2 than me.

Until then, give this a watch...

http://www.musictechtutorials.com/l...lines-with-es2/

Maybe it will give you some inspiration.


Posted by evo8 on Jan-28-2010 16:25:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
I think RPs apparent favouring of hardcore sounds don't do it any favours tbh. The many hundreds of presets mostly don't show off what it can really do.

It's also got arguably the best FX section of any VST synth that can also be used as a standalone FX unit.


The Waveshaper is really nice on basslines, just turning the "bottom" knob to about 5% gives it a nice tone


Posted by tehlord on Jan-28-2010 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
The Waveshaper is really nice on basslines, just turning the "bottom" knob to about 5% gives it a nice tone


Are you talking about an FX slot in Predator?

I'd never even noticed it


So it's like a transient designer then....nice


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-28-2010 17:39:

Re: Good trance Synth for £100-£200

quote:
Originally posted by ACK5

...looking for something that I can make bases with. Cant seem to get a nice gritty baseline with the Logic stuff.



Take a look at the Rob Papen SubBoomBass demo. It's built on Predator's engine, but is designed especially for synth basses. The presets are sorta all over the place in terms of styles and usability, but like all RP synths, it's a breeze to tweak/program and it will do pretty much anything you'd want a synth bass to do, particularly gritty basses.


Posted by evo8 on Jan-28-2010 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Are you talking about an FX slot in Predator?

I'd never even noticed it


So it's like a transient designer then....nice


Yep its in the fx slots, about half way down i think


Posted by tehlord on Jan-28-2010 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
Yep its in the fx slots, about half way down i think



Ta

Can't believe I missed it


Posted by ACK5 on Jan-29-2010 07:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Acton
I'm not an expert on Logic synths as it's not my DAW of choice, however, there are plenty of Logic users here who I'm sure would be able to provide more useful information on ES2 than me.

Until then, give this a watch...

http://www.musictechtutorials.com/l...lines-with-es2/

Maybe it will give you some inspiration.



Good clip man thanks, it really comes down to my inexperience in synthesis.

Having said that I think I will still get another software synth any way, the predator synth looks like a mad thing.

Here is something my mate send me last night. Sander Van Doorn is also using the Predator for some of his productions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noAWa1YNopQ


Thanks for all the info guys



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