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ACTION ALERT
Sign the online petition at www.buzzlife.com
S 2633 - The RAVE Act
For the full text of this bill, please go to http://thomas.loc.gov/
and search for S 2633
Purpose: Senators Grassley and Biden on June 18th proposed the
Reducing America's Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act of 2002 (S2633). This RAVE Act is in the Senate now and is awaiting a vote. This proposed bill focuses on establishments that feature electronic dance music. Under this bill, the federal government would have the power to prosecute law-abiding, tax paying venue owners and event promoters for the actions of their customers.
Status: This bill is awaiting a vote in the Senate and can be voted
on anytime on or after July 8th, 2002.
Background: Senate Bill 2633 is an attempt by legislators to reduce
the illegal use of ecstasy by re-writing Title 21 U.S. Code Section 856 (aka the "crack house law") so that it can be easily used to shut down electronic dance music events. This legislation adds a $250,000 minimum civil liability clause to the existing criminal penalties of up to 20 years imprisonment and possible $500,000 fine.
This legislation could have a devastating effect on the electronic
dance music community.
The RAVE Act along with other bills such as H.R. 3782, known as Clean, Learn, Educate, Abolish, Neutralize, and Undermine Production (CLEAN-UP) of Methamphetamines Act of 2002, seriously jeopardize the liberties of law-abiding promoters and partygoers. Language used
in both bills specifically target electronic dance music, even identifying events or raves as places with bass heavy sounds and repetitive rhythms. Targeting a music genre clearly violates our civil freedom. For more information on the effect this could have on you, visit www.aclu.org and search for "rave".
What You Can Do: Take action NOW! S 2633 was introduced under
special rules and could be voted on as soon as July 8th, 2002
1. Sign the online petition, go to
http://buzzlife.com/buzzdc/page.cfm...s&contest_id=13
2. Write or call your respective Senators and House Representatives
and make it clear that you want them to vote against the RAVE Act
in the Senate, and the CLEAN-UP Act in the House.
You can contact your representatives by calling the Capitol
Switchboard at 202.224.3121. To find your representatives, go to
http://www.vote-smart.org/.
3. Spread the word! Tell your friends, family, coworkers to sign
the petition and call their representatives.
Some Points to Make:
The electronic dance music industry and culture has existed for 20
years.
There is a viable industry of electronic music professionals that
in no way profit or promote drug use.
Electronic music is a part of our mainstream society. Corporate
entities such as Volkswagen and Gap Inc are currently featuring this
music in their commercials.
Law abiding, tax paying venue owners and event promoters should not
be held accountable for the actions of their patrons.
Electronic dance music has saturated the US at nightclubs, concert
halls and festivals, as well as on TV, radio and cable. It is a
form of artistic expression, which is NOT synonymous with drug use.
Help spread the word!
Here's an email from Lonnie Fisher of Ultraworld:
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| Many of you know about the RAVE bill that is pending in the Senate. Make your opinion heard and fight against this nonsense. Find your State Senators using the link below, and call email, or fax them a letter! Do it multiple times. Just as websites can be shut down with denial of service, so we too can shut this down by flooding our representatives with messages. http://www.senate.gov/senators/senator_by_state.cfm Below is what I wrote to my Senators, feel free to use any wording. (just remember to change the name if you cut and paste ;-) ) Lonnie Dear Senator ... I feel it is imperative that you vote against the "R.A.V.E." bill that is being put to the Senate. Holding venue owners, managers, or promoters accountable for the actions of individual patrons at an event is a completely irresponsible and ineffective way to combat drug use in the country. Passage of this bill would set a dangerous precedent whereby no public event would be permissible, as there is bound to be some degree of lawbreaking any time people are gathered. Whether it's underage drinking at bars or public festivals, brawling at football games, or drug use, we cannot hold people that throw music events as liable for the actions of individuals, especially when those promoters have security, and a method in place to identify and remove individuals who are breaking the law from their events. I am also disturbed by the brutal lack of understanding of the electronic dance music scene. The bill in question labels this scene as solely existing to exploit the youth of the country. That claim is perhaps the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard, particularly when made by a generation that once thought Elvis Presley swiveling his hips was going to destroy the minds of American youth. Electronic music is a vibrant musical genre, with vast commercial and social implications. No one doubts the importance of Rock and Roll, and as such, no one should doubt the importance of or attack the existence and appreciation of electronic music. Arrest and incarcerate all of the drug dealers and users you'd like, but don't tread on the rights of law abiding people to do it. I urge you to add a voice of reason to the debate over this bill, and put this threat to our civil rights where it belongs, in the trash!!! Thank you Lonnie Fisher Baltimore, MD |
America sucks, In the UK politicians were trying to legalise it a few months back (which failed), but they understand that ecstasy comes hand in hand, so clubs now have to make sure that they are suitably ventilated, free drinking water is available, and first aid assistance if necessary, which is nice 
See i'm not worried because i've never been to a rave in my life and also i live in canada. Sucks that lawmakers are trying to ban something for no reason.
They're banning raves because they are dumbasses. They simply just don't know that they are. Just because one or two people may have taken ecstacy at a rave and overdosed and died doesnt mean you have shut them all down. That just doesnt make sense, people can overdose on drugs in many places other then raves...so why are raves being killed by politicians? Anywho, bad shit can happen anywhere at anytime, they shouldnt ban raves because some people are fuck ups and overdose.
They're just jealous because they're old and can't party anymore
i have never been to a rave, but i plan to in the future. yea, ecstasy use is troubling to me, since im a victim of those anti ecstasy ads (well, that can be good or bad). I really dont see how shutting down all the raves in the states would help. someone mentioned earler that u can take ecstasy just about anywhere, which is true. but what pisses me off is that club owners are getting affected for something that they cannot enforce. same with with other drugs, the police should go for the dealers, not to the users, imo. humans like to experiment with things, right?
as many people have probably already said, many shouldnt be punished for the actions of a few
now exucse me while i email ms boxer
phasefour
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| Originally posted by trance_n_dance They're just jealous because they're old and can't party anymore |
America is the greatest country in the world 
Isn't this bill a form of flat out DISCRIMINATION? What if they made a bill like that targeted at religious gatherings...
Land of the free... my ass 
(I'm so grateful to be living in Holland 
)
btw... Even if you disagree (you obviously do 
), gotta give the guy who made up the name of that bill some credit... I mean 'Reducing Americans Volnurability to Ecstacy' aka the 'RAVE bill'... that cracks me up
and i'm so glad to be living in Canada , it kicks usa's ass in electronica :d
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 and i'm so glad to be living in Canada , it kicks usa's ass in electronica :d |
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| Originally posted by PhaseFour we have dj skribble thats why |
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 and i'm so glad to be living in Canada , it kicks usa's ass in electronica :d |
Hope it doesnt get passed.
Always somethin to do with politics
Same thing happened with the Ciminal Justice Act over here a while back. It outlawed unlicensed parties where music with "repetetive beats" are played. In the end it pretty much killed the Rave Scene, but it helped turned the club scene into what it was today. Maybe the same will happen in the states and there'll become a lot more nightclubs catering for Trance with big name DJ's....
I believe this new BILL is direct result of the so called "CRACK HOUSE" law in which partys,clubs,events where drug use is evident can be shut down & raided like they have done in the past. Bottom line is if someone is going to do drugs there will always be a place no matter how many clubs,raves,etc. you shut down. Down here in Miami people party,stay out for days and clubs have a reputation of holding marathon dj sets & after,after,after,after,after hours clubs that go well into the next day if not longer. I don't see how these laws and bills would be able to have a direct effect on places like Miami who's nightlife brings in people from all over the world and who makes hundreds of millions of dollars every year in this culture. I guess this Bill gives new meaning to the Phrase"The Politics Of Dancing".
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| Originally posted by fade2darkdj I believe this new BILL is direct result of the so called "CRACK HOUSE" law in which partys,clubs,events where drug use is evident can be shut down & raided like they have done in the past. Bottom line is if someone is going to do drugs there will always be a place no matter how many clubs,raves,etc. you shut down. Down here in Miami people party,stay out for days and clubs have a reputation of holding marathon dj sets & after,after,after,after,after hours clubs that go well into the next day if not longer. I don't see how these laws and bills would be able to have a direct effect on places like Miami who's nightlife brings in people from all over the world and who makes hundreds of millions of dollars every year in this culture. I guess this Bill gives new meaning to the Phrase"The Politics Of Dancing". |
Anyway, this new law, along with the "Policeware" law is dumb! Why? There's ALWAYS ways around things! The law is WAY behind the technology! That's a fact! Same thing with raves/parties/events: People just won't do the drugs THERE, they'll do it elsewhere. Everyone's smart enough to do that! Plus, about the "Policeware" law: What's that going to do? Most people build their own PCs from parts they buy SEPERATELY and put it together the way THEY want to. I can understand those "package PCs", where you go to a store and walk out with a big box with a PC and everything for it as one big package but, even with those, you can just wipe the HDD and clean-install the OS of ur choice. And if it comes down to it, if the Gov't wants MS to use Windows as "Policeware", people'll just move to Linux, where there are NO laws! After all, it's easy to use now. See, there are ALWAYS ways around stupid shit like this.
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| Originally posted by Az America sucks, In the UK politicians were trying to legalise it a few months back (which failed), but they understand that ecstasy comes hand in hand, so clubs now have to make sure that they are suitably ventilated, free drinking water is available, and first aid assistance if necessary, which is nice |
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| Originally posted by Spad Same thing happened with the Ciminal Justice Act over here a while back. It outlawed unlicensed parties where music with "repetetive beats" are played. |
whatever, this is going to hit Cali's scene pretty hard if it passes. Interesting how it helped the club scene thrive in the UK. 
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| Originally posted by Eu4ea_18 wtf, aren't beats supposed to be repetetive? THats the whole idea of rythm, it's constant. |
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| Originally posted by Eu4ea_18 wtf, aren't beats supposed to be repetetive? THats the whole idea of rythm, it's constant. whatever, this is going to hit Cali's scene pretty hard if it passes. Interesting how it helped the club scene thrive in the UK. The US is so paranoid, our gov kacks its pants about anything it's too old to understand. The punishment for x use can be greater than for rape and assault. Next there will be cameras in the club stalls, and full cavity searches at the entrace. THe security here is already insane! |
yea lol hes that mtv dj.
anyway, i think the way that the US deals with drugs is flawed. i sort of like how the military does out and blow stuff up in columbia (heheh GO ABT!). Im VERY much against drug use, but i dont think shutting down raves would do anything. thats already been shown by Prohibitiion, which tried to ban alchol/spirits all that stuff. my point is, theres no way in hell theyre gonna effectively enforce the law. another good example is the inability of the authorites to enforce the age limit for pr0n hehehe.
as i had said earlier think that the government should be focusing their efforts on the drug dealers. theyre the ones who push people to smoke crack and that sort of thing.
see, my school district made us history a graduation requirement. what pisses me off is that the bureaucracy
pahsefour
sorry for the crappy post, i gtg watch oreilly factor
They need to worry about the smuggling of muslim "sleeper" terrorists getting into the country. More ppl die from bombings than at raves.
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| Originally posted by Busy Child They need to worry about the smuggling of muslim "sleeper" terrorists getting into the country. More ppl die from bombings than at raves. |
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| Originally posted by !_PeTrUs_! I'm so glad to be living in Holland |
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