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Posted by epsilon1 on Feb-11-2010 13:39:

usb controller

Hi everybody,

im starting to think about DJing to myself at home, so ill be needing a usb controller. I dont really know about quality firms that sell these kind of products so im asking for your help, which is recommended? something solid around 400$

i tried searching the forum archives but nothing came up.

appriciate your help
Idan.


Posted by i got big pants on Feb-11-2010 15:47:

do you want jog wheel compatibility? what software are you using? do you want something small?

lots of questions you need to ask yourself first.


Posted by keithos27 on Feb-11-2010 17:02:

if you're using traktor look at the traktor kontrol x1 (comes with traktor le) for $200 from sam ash or guitar center.


Posted by miamitranceman on Feb-11-2010 17:05:

Also look at Torq Mixlab.

At 70 bucks on sale it's an absolute steal!

http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Torq-...m/dp/B000KU7AVM


Posted by ziptnf on Feb-11-2010 18:44:

VCI-100's are very handy for use with Traktor.



http://www.vestax.com/v/


Posted by epsilon1 on Feb-11-2010 23:35:

first, thanks for your help.

id like to have a controller with the jog wheel feature, size doesnt really matter to me, and im using traktor.
this vestax controller looks nice, has someone tried using it?

thanks again

edit: another question - do i need a 2 channel soundcard in my laptop or the controller has 2 channels?


Posted by woscar on Feb-12-2010 02:59:

I have the VCI-100 and I can vouch for its quality. The thing is built like a rock, it's made out of metal instead of the toylike plastic pretty much every other controller is made of. It works perfectly with Traktor, which is also what I use. It is pricey compared to other controllers, but it's worth it. If you have the money, buy it.


Posted by epsilon1 on Feb-12-2010 11:40:

thanks woscar, few more qestions if i may:
where do i plug the headphones?
does it have all the required features for good mixing? channel cueing and stuff?

sorry for the ignorance..thanks again


Posted by Jarvmeister on Feb-12-2010 12:37:

quote:
Originally posted by epsilon1
does it have all the required features for good mixing?


You're the one who will require the features for good mixing!

I think you can rest assured it has the basic features you enquire about however.


Posted by woscar on Feb-12-2010 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by epsilon1
thanks woscar, few more qestions if i may:
where do i plug the headphones?
does it have all the required features for good mixing? channel cueing and stuff?

sorry for the ignorance..thanks again


Well, it doesn't come with an integrated sound card like some of the other controllers so that means that you have to buy a separate external soundcard. I currently have the Native Instruments Audio 4 DJ, and I couldn't be happier with it. It costs around $250, but as with the VCI-100 it's worth every penny. If you're patient, you can get a slightly used one on eBay for about half the price. That's how I got mine.

If you want something with the same quality but for a much lower price you can go with the Audio 2 DJ, which is essentially the same components of the Audio 4 and Audio 8 but in a smaller package and minus all the extra inputs and outputs. That one goes for $120.

As for the VCI-100 having all the things you need...yeah, it does since you can program each button to do what you need it to do with the software you have, which in this case is Traktor. Functions like 'channel cueing' are integrated into Traktor, not the controller. What the controller does, is it helps you have a tactile interface to trigger functions in Traktor instead of using a mouse and keyboard.


Posted by i got big pants on Feb-12-2010 16:05:

check out the ni audio dj 2. cheap, small, and simple.

1 out for your speakers, and 1 out for your headphones


Posted by epsilon1 on Feb-12-2010 16:22:

i was sure that it's coming with an integrated soundcard...im confused' anything else i'd have to buy? i dont want to buy it and find out i miss something else


Posted by miamitranceman on Feb-13-2010 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by epsilon1
i was sure that it's coming with an integrated soundcard...im confused' anything else i'd have to buy? i dont want to buy it and find out i miss something else



That's the double edged sword with the VCI-100. Assuming you don't find it used for cheap, you quickly find yourself dropping a lot of dough for that with the extra ext. soundcard needed for it. Once you're up into the 500-600+ range, to me, it's a lot to spend for that


That's why I think you might be better off with something cheaper like Torq Mixlab which I mentioned above. Sure it's not made of metal, but it'll hold up just fine assuming you dont abuse it to all hell. Plus you dont need an ext. soundcard, and it's cheap enough so if you dont like it you're not really takin a big hit anyway. (I've been a Torq user for years now. It's solid.)

Just something to consider.


Posted by epsilon1 on Feb-13-2010 10:44:

from what ive seen the torq mixlab misses the jog wheel, which is something i need for my kind of mixing. i know it has become a higher price than i expected, but if it's only the controller and the ext. soundcard - ill go for it (assuming nothing else is needed for this setup)

anyways, i wont ignore other recommendations


Posted by epsilon1 on Feb-13-2010 18:44:

me again

what do you think about Reloop Digital Jockey - Interface edition?
its cheaper and has a built in soundcard
has anyone heard about it or tried using it?


Posted by woscar on Feb-14-2010 16:22:

Haven't heard about that one. My advice is if you have the money, go for the Vestax + Sound Card. I assure you that you won't regret it, even if it's an expensive setup.

What laptop are you using?


Posted by epsilon1 on Feb-14-2010 19:47:

i tested the Reloop controller at the store...good stuff, think im gonna buy it. the vestax is a bit expensive to me

thanks for your help!


Posted by smekzg on Feb-14-2010 20:10:

Also consider OMni ctrl, it is rock solid, has a soundcard, made of some metal and costrs way less then the vestax.




http://www.numark.com/omnicontrol






there is also Stealth controll which doesn't have a soundcard so it's even cheaper.I can confirm the quality.


Posted by bigherm on Feb-15-2010 00:16:

you can also try the TORQ XPONENT. it has a soundcard built in. ive been using it for a year and love it. got it on craigslist used for $300 usd.


Posted by woscar on Feb-16-2010 16:12:

quote:
Originally posted by smekzg



LOL, that's the same laptop I used to have.


Posted by ziptnf on Feb-16-2010 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by smekzg
Also consider OMni ctrl, it is rock solid, has a soundcard, made of some metal and costrs way less then the vestax.




http://www.numark.com/omnicontrol






there is also Stealth controll which doesn't have a soundcard so it's even cheaper.I can confirm the quality.

That does look very nice. I wish I knew about that before I bought my VCI-100...


Posted by woscar on Feb-16-2010 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
That does look very nice. I wish I knew about that before I bought my VCI-100...


Be thankful that you didn't.


Posted by n3lly on Feb-16-2010 19:29:

Having looked at all the things that the lads over at djtechtools.com are doing with the vci 100 i really do think it's a great piece of kit. Expensive for what it is but i have rarely if ever read bad reviews about the unit. It's a tank and perfect if you need something mobile.


Posted by woscar on Feb-16-2010 19:36:

Yes, the VCI-100 is like the Tech-12 of usb midi controllers.


Posted by ziptnf on Feb-18-2010 13:41:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
Be thankful that you didn't.

One of my decks on my VCI-100 is starting to stick. I got it from ebay , so I probably can't send it to Vestax or anything. I'm wondering if I shouldn't just take a screwdriver and try to fix it myself?


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