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Posted by Emvy on Feb-18-2010 08:41:

reason or cubase?

hey guys,
i've been producing with cubase for the past couple years.. im really getting the hang of it now, but recently, iv been looking into REASON. i dont want to ask which one is better, because both of them im sure have great qualities of their own, but if i move to reason, would that kinda be a downgrade? i feel like im SO flexible with cubase and i can do everything possible with it... but i dono much about reason..

what do you guys think?

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-18-2010 09:21:

Why not use both?

Wrong forum, by the way.

Posted by Emvy on Feb-18-2010 16:35:

im sorry of its the wrong forum, i didnt realize that.
i dont want to use both because i want to get the hang of one of them. i want to stick to one and just learn everything on one.

Posted by Subtle on Feb-18-2010 18:59:

Just go with Cubase, more options in the long run.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-18-2010 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Emvy
im sorry of its the wrong forum, i didnt realize that.
i dont want to use both because i want to get the hang of one of them. i want to stick to one and just learn everything on one.

...then why are you even looking at Reason if you're already using Cubase?

Posted by Lascodi on Feb-19-2010 14:40:

Reason is easy and have a far more inspiring interface...also it does for a strange REASON give you more of that hidden creativity and motivation also. The sound in Reason is excellent. I would rather choose Ableton Live though.

Posted by chrissundive on Feb-19-2010 15:19:

Reason is a piece of poo imho.

1 ) Sound quality was good in the late '90s, now its FAR behind the competition.
2 ) No external FX or instruments make it very limited.
3 ) Have to buy a separate program to record, which is silly.
4 ) Even though its so lacking in almost every aspect (thanks to no external plugin support) they still charge a hell lot for it.

Saying all that it does have a few decent modules and presets on board, so if you like the sound you can reWire it with other host.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-19-2010 20:59:

quote:
Originally posted by chrissundive
1 ) Sound quality was good in the late '90s, now its FAR behind the competition.

I'm willing to bet you couldn't even tell the difference.

Posted by chrissundive on Feb-19-2010 21:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I'm willing to bet you couldn't even tell the difference.

You can try to mask the inferiorities and as I mentioned there are a handful of useful tools in there. But can you even get close to, lets say NI Massive with the sound quality of reasons synths ?

The obvious answer is no.

So maybe Sylenth 1 ?

No.

Or maybe some higher end reverbs ?

Well ... no.

How about a more advances sampler like Kontakt ?

... no

Can you use hi end compression ? Analogue tube gear emulations ?

Well ... no.

So that boils down to a question, what and how you use stuff. The synth, effects and sampler quality in Reason is equivalent to free vst and au plugs ... but you have to pay for it.

Posted by EddieZilker on Feb-19-2010 21:41:

This is probably the dumbest question I've ever seen asked in this forum.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-19-2010 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by chrissundive
blah blah blah

You go, champ.

Posted by chrissundive on Feb-19-2010 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
You go, champ.

pwned ... why do i even bother to argue

Posted by EddieZilker on Feb-20-2010 00:00:

quote:
Originally posted by chrissundive
pwned ... why do i even bother to argue

I don't think anyone here, outside of yourself, could properly answer that question.

Well, they could - it just wouldn't be the right thing to do.

Posted by Omega_Blue on Feb-20-2010 02:41:

thread moved

Posted by EddieZilker on Feb-20-2010 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
thread moved

GAH!!

Lock it! LOCK IT!

Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-20-2010 05:18:

Reason 4eva! fuck cubase and its no sound generation! (it didnt generate any sound when i tried it, fuck that)

Posted by Subtle on Feb-20-2010 10:58:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Lock it! LOCK IT!

Posted by evo8 on Feb-20-2010 13:08:

quote:
Originally posted by chrissundive
You can try to mask the inferiorities and as I mentioned there are a handful of useful tools in there. But can you even get close to, lets say NI Massive with the sound quality of reasons synths ?

The obvious answer is no.

So maybe Sylenth 1 ?

No.

Or maybe some higher end reverbs ?

Well ... no.

How about a more advances sampler like Kontakt ?

... no

Can you use hi end compression ? Analogue tube gear emulations ?

Well ... no.

So that boils down to a question, what and how you use stuff. The synth, effects and sampler quality in Reason is equivalent to free vst and au plugs ... but you have to pay for it.

I smell bullshit

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-20-2010 14:03:

quote:
Originally posted by chrissundive
pwned ... why do i even bother to argue

I wonder the same thing.

Posted by DigiNut on Feb-20-2010 14:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
thread moved

Lol, thanks bro, just what we needed, a Reason-bashing thread.

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And the final answer to this question is: Use whatever the hell makes you happy.

I swear, social networking has completely obliterated most people's ability to make any decision more complicated than "what should I have for lunch." As if the combined diatribes of five dozen teenagers would somehow make it an informed decision.