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Posted by crazedonee on Feb-21-2010 00:32:

Is this laptop good for producing?

http://www.google.com/products/cata...IwAg#ps-sellers


Im using a desktop thinking about upgrading to a newer more powerful laptop.

let me know if this one is good enough i guess ill have to get a better sound card for this one though anyhow check the specs on this one and let me know.


Posted by Eric J on Feb-21-2010 02:00:

1.3 is pretty weak for processor clock these days and that 12.1 screen is small as well. Can you do it? Probably. Will it be a pleasant experience? Probably not.


Posted by Energy_3 on Feb-21-2010 07:49:

Better of upgrading your current PC or ditching that and building your own PC. Not to sure on what amount of cash you have to throw at this but, i'm sure you could buy an off the shelf 'desktop only' (no monitor etc) for a $1000, but then im not sure if that's going to be any better then what you already have. Alternative, save your pennies, if your serious, and make do with what you have til then!


Posted by kitphillips on Feb-21-2010 08:26:

Fuck no.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-21-2010 10:23:

the white macbook doesnt cost much more than that does it?


Posted by Nightshift on Feb-21-2010 10:36:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Fuck no.


+1


Posted by sako487 on Feb-21-2010 10:48:

HHHEELLLLL FUCKING NO. With the money you spend on that piece of shit, you can build your own for 5x better performance.


Posted by crazedonee on Feb-21-2010 14:55:

ill probably hold on to what i have for now but when i am ready to upgrade ill build something custom and more powerful.

they do have a more powerful model though http://asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=uJ1aGDQDfOLUcJjH


Posted by Beatflux on Feb-21-2010 17:57:

You can get a much much better Desktop with a monitor included for $1000.


Posted by jupiterone on Feb-21-2010 21:12:

you can get a much better laptop in general for 1000$

hell you can even get a macbook


Posted by floyd741 on Feb-21-2010 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by crazedonee
ill probably hold on to what i have for now but when i am ready to upgrade ill build something custom and more powerful.

they do have a more powerful model though http://asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=uJ1aGDQDfOLUcJjH


Why are you looking for an Asus anyway? I'm not saying they're bad but still, you might as well go for something a little more popular as it will most likely be cheaper. Hell, a Dell laptop will cost you around $700 then you just have to buy a soundcard and you should be good to go.


Posted by kitphillips on Feb-22-2010 03:54:

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741
Why are you looking for an Asus anyway? I'm not saying they're bad but still, you might as well go for something a little more popular as it will most likely be cheaper. Hell, a Dell laptop will cost you around $700 then you just have to buy a soundcard and you should be good to go.


Dell are absolutely terrible quality. Asus were generally considered about 10x better, but some people have said that they're not as good as they used to be though. Still be better than a dell tho.


Posted by kitphillips on Feb-22-2010 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by crazedonee
ill probably hold on to what i have for now but when i am ready to upgrade ill build something custom and more powerful.

they do have a more powerful model though http://asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=uJ1aGDQDfOLUcJjH


Dude, what are you talking about? Do some more research and you'll find out that the best processors out there at the moment are the quad core core i7s, and the laptops your posting are all in the same pricerange as something with an i7.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16834220696

This'll blow whatever else you were looking at out of the water. But I recommend you spend some time looking at your options and working out what hte best deal is, and what the best hardware is now.


Posted by Energy_3 on Feb-22-2010 04:47:

Yes, listen to the people on here. Not saying your not, alot of them have years and years of experience (not going to mention any of your old timers). I mean sure you can take the easy way out but you may regret it later once you figure out your needs.

If you think you have it already sorted, then go with what you think already, as it will do the job of course, but thats all its going to do. If you want greater performance now and in the future, then as its been said, either get a mac, save and build a PC or perhaps upgrade the one you have if warranted.

And before going in to build one do some decent research. For me the option of building was not much more benificial then me buying a mac outright at the time, as the release of the 27" imac dropd the price of the older models considerably, making the 24" a more viable option for myself at that time. That being said you could stil pick up a top of range imac previous model with a little more over a $1000 and have a really good foundation.

yaddah yaddah,

edit: i am Mac biased also, oh if your really serious about building a PC check out some of the music stores online, they post ther specs up of ther units, you can do some price guidelines based on that and work it from there or buy a Mac...! But you really need to consider what you want from you machine, is it all virtual based or the other?


Posted by floyd741 on Feb-22-2010 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Dell are absolutely terrible quality. Asus were generally considered about 10x better, but some people have said that they're not as good as they used to be though. Still be better than a dell tho.


My point was that something like Dell, which is more popular company, will be cheaper (at least that's what I've noticed). IIRC, a 17" Dell laptop w/ 4gb RAM, Intel Core i5 Proc, 320gb HD will cost you ~$700. The video card is mostly unimportant as far as production goes and a decent soundcard won't really cost more that about $200. That's a better computer for less money than the op. I admit I don't know as much about computers as many other people on this board but that seems pretty good to me.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Feb-22-2010 16:48:

Not for serious production. I had a laptop and wasn't working for me, it was OK for a a simple song (1-20 midi or audio tracks), but if you trying to build more than that - we went over 100% processor load quickly. I just finished build my own computer and the same song (with processor load over 115%-125% on laptop), on my new PC was 15%-20% - cost $850.

Cheers


Posted by evo8 on Feb-22-2010 17:04:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Not for serious production. I had a laptop and wasn't working for me, it was OK for a a simple song (1-20 midi or audio tracks), but if you trying to build more than that - we went over 100% processor load quickly. I just finished build my own computer and the same song (with processor load over 115%-125% on laptop), on my new PC was 15%-20% - cost $850.

Cheers


To me the worst thing about producing on laptops is that fact that you only have 1 screen, i cant see how i used to do stuff with only one monitor years ago, ive tried using Live on my MBP and end up getting frustrated without the 2nd screen.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Feb-22-2010 17:08:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
To me the worst thing about producing on laptops is that fact that you only have 1 screen, i cant see how i used to do stuff with only one monitor years ago, ive tried using Live on my MBP and end up getting frustrated without the 2nd screen.


Good addition to my post +1 man.

Cheers


Posted by Zak McKracken on Feb-22-2010 17:34:

i have no problems using 1 13" laptop for producing. any less screen would be a problem i think though but this works for me. MBP is great imo.


Posted by crazedonee on Feb-23-2010 02:08:

the only reason i was considering an asus is they make great motherboards but yes they are pricey.


Posted by kitphillips on Feb-23-2010 03:02:

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741
My point was that something like Dell, which is more popular company, will be cheaper (at least that's what I've noticed). IIRC, a 17" Dell laptop w/ 4gb RAM, Intel Core i5 Proc, 320gb HD will cost you ~$700. The video card is mostly unimportant as far as production goes and a decent soundcard won't really cost more that about $200. That's a better computer for less money than the op. I admit I don't know as much about computers as many other people on this board but that seems pretty good to me.


Yeah, but dell are cheaper because they're notorious for using lower quality firewire chipsets, lower quality USB controllers, lower quality motherboards and pathetic build quality. Asus is known for using quite high quality componenents and being very reliable.

If you actually care about your music production adn want a laptop that will hold up, you probably won't go for dell.

Also, the asus I posted has a far stronger graphics card than the dells available, as well as an extra 2 CORES on the processor, how would you not pay an extra $400 for a whole 2 extra cores, faster clock and heaps better graphics, as well as increased reliability???

And the graphics card could very well start to make a big difference to audio production in the next 5 years as GPGPU stuff starts to take off. It hasn't yet, but direct compute and similar could have big implications for audio processing.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Feb-26-2010 15:34:

Not everything Dell put out is complete shit you know.



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