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Posted by Zack Roth on Feb-26-2010 01:21:

since that thread got closed...

I wanted to ask...is there a specific set of rules that apply to what can / cannot be posted in certain forums? The only thing I could find was the following, which is what you must agree to before registering a TA user name....

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Posted by hitokiri on Feb-26-2010 01:22:

Re: since that thread got closed...

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
I wanted to ask...is there a specific set of rules that apply to what can / cannot be posted in certain forums? The only thing I could find was the following, which is what you must agree to before registering a TA user name....

Tranceaddict Forums Rules

Registration to this forum is free! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below. If you agree to the terms, please press the Agree button at the end of the page. Note: By pressing the button you declare that you are over the age of 13. If you are 13 or under, please use this registration form.

Although the administrators and moderators of tranceaddict Forums will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owner of Tranceaddict� Forums or Jelsoft Enterprises Limited (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message.

By clicking the Agree button, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, excessively sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

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rabble rouser


Posted by Zack Roth on Feb-26-2010 01:30:

Re: Re: since that thread got closed...

quote:
Originally posted by hitokiri
rabble rouser


lol, douche.

I am just legitimately curious.

As an example...for years, we have been able to talk about sports here in NYTA...whether it be hockey, UFC, snowboarding, boxing, The Yankees, whatever....

now Sports threads must all be moved to the Sports Forum...?

Just curious what has changed, and why? To me, those just seem like normal NYTA discussions.


Posted by euphoria on Feb-26-2010 01:33:

For years there was no active mod...that should answer your question. The site has been around for 10+ years and has always been organized by topic. I will try to get a copy of some kind of official rules for you.

Mainly tho... the last line says it all

"The owners of tranceaddict Forums have the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread or post for any reason."


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Feb-26-2010 01:34:

PPD


Posted by Burak14 on Feb-26-2010 01:37:

whats the purpose of NY section of ta when we can't have an interview done with ny dj/producer posted on here?? shit is getting so annoying.


Posted by Zack Roth on Feb-26-2010 01:45:

quote:
Originally posted by euphoria
The site has been around for 10+ years and has always been organized by topic.

"The owners of tranceaddict Forums have the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread or post for any reason."


Fair enough...

But my question then is this...if there is not a specific rule regarding sports content (for example). why did you decide to move it?

I am looking through the TOTA forums, and they leave sports content...

On the flip side, why are Prometheus Xex's video threads allowed to stay, when the content has nothing to do with NYTA? ( BTW, I think the vids are great, and I am sure people here want to see them) But I'm sure everyone here would also prefer to see the sports threads stay. Why is one allowed to stay, and the other not?

BTW, I am just using those two as subjects...the same comparisons can be made elsewhere.


Posted by Zack Roth on Feb-26-2010 01:51:

BTW, I'm really not trying to be annoying about all this. I have been on TA since 2003, and love being a part of the TA community.

Just seems like things are getting really tight around here.


Posted by kadomony on Feb-26-2010 02:03:

Interview threads might also get a lot less trolling if placed in local forums too...

don't ban me


Posted by euphoria on Feb-26-2010 02:10:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
Fair enough...

But my question then is this...if there is not a specific rule regarding sports content (for example). why did you decide to move it?

I am looking through the TOTA forums, and they leave sports content...

On the flip side, why are Prometheus Xex's video threads allowed to stay, when the content has nothing to do with NYTA? ( BTW, I think the vids are great, and I am sure people here want to see them) But I'm sure everyone here would also prefer to see the sports threads stay. Why is one allowed to stay, and the other not?

BTW, I am just using those two as subjects...the same comparisons can be made elsewhere.


I've asked Swamper his opinion about the video threads but he has not replied yet. I've also asked for some official copy of the rules, and directed Swamper to this thread...again.


Posted by Scoops on Feb-26-2010 02:24:

this board is slowly going down the ClubPlanet path....

Clubplanet was broken down in a similiar fashion: Regions(NYC, NJ, Florida, and other spots in the US), Sex, Music, Drugs, and a promotion board.

there were no restrictions from people talking about monthly top 10s on the NYC Board or from people talking about the one Night stands in the Jersey Board. The admin trusted his mods. he only ask that the mods close and/or move threads if they were getting out of hand with drama.

It was FUN

I'm still wondering why this thread was closed...
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...9&forumid=26&s=


Posted by sot on Feb-26-2010 02:34:

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
Interview threads might also get a lot less trolling if placed in local forums too...

don't ban me


seriously lol

don't see why zack can't post a sport thread in here.

time to get off your mod-ego trip, it's not exactly appreciated around here.


Posted by Zack Roth on Feb-26-2010 02:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Scoops

It was FUN


I agree totally man. CP was actually a really entertaining board back in the day. They had a very loose system...maybe a little too loose at times though, lol. Some of the drama threads were out of control.

But, to me, thats fairly easy to keep under control. Obviously, if a thread is getting offensive and drama-filled, it needs to be closed. But honestly, how often does that even happen here?

The other main problem is spam. But Zaneta did an amazing job of getting rid of it all. Its really non-existent now.

So, besides those two issues...what else really needs to be monitored around here?


Posted by kadomony on Feb-26-2010 03:09:


Posted by chimera66 on Feb-26-2010 03:28:

Re: Re: Re: since that thread got closed...

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
lol, douche.

I am just legitimately curious.

As an example...for years, we have been able to talk about sports here in NYTA...whether it be hockey, UFC, snowboarding, boxing, The Yankees, whatever....

now Sports threads must all be moved to the Sports Forum...?

Just curious what has changed, and why? To me, those just seem like normal NYTA discussions.



i agree on this, sports are something you should be able to talk about in your own "groups" local forums. if all this stuff is centralized people won't see it, like maybe 10 people post in the sports discussion thread. it's almost not worth starting some threads if you can't reach a wide range of people...

i do agree though that z has done a great job cleaning this place up.


Posted by EliPsE on Feb-26-2010 03:32:

Ever since steven neil stopped posting the ny boards are boring.


Posted by jurel on Feb-26-2010 04:03:

Seems like when everyone was asking for a mod, they didn't factor all aspects of what the mod must do.
In reality, what everyone really wanted was someone to get rid of those pesky spamming promoters and spam links to handbags and Nike sales.

amirite?


Posted by osterzone on Feb-26-2010 04:09:

quote:
Originally posted by jurel
Seems like when everyone was asking for a mod, they didn't factor all aspects of what the mod must do.
In reality, what everyone really wanted was someone to get rid of those pesky spamming promoters and spam links to handbags and Nike sales.

amirite?

The spam thing is really an administrative issue that lies in the registration process of creating an account on this board. For some reason this board software isn't strong enough to block out the spamming scripts that are creating these bogus accounts.

This is also the only high-traffic forum I've been to where this spam stuff happens frequently.


Posted by pyro264jb on Feb-26-2010 04:33:

quote:
Originally posted by get nyce
PPD


English please

what does that acronym mean?


Posted by pyro264jb on Feb-26-2010 04:37:

Ian used to crack the whip on us back in the day...


maybe thats why he aint here no more


plur...


Posted by LinX on Feb-26-2010 04:52:

yeah its gettin a little funky around here lol not gonna lie.


Posted by StarSoprano426 on Feb-26-2010 05:00:

I agree with you guys as well.

Z, you've done a fantastic job of cleaning up the place. I know you're following the rules and can't fault you for that.

However TA makes me sad now. These few threads about things we're not happy with are the most interesting discussion that we've had going on here in forever. Anything else that would have been interesting has been moved.

In my opinion the main issues before when we had an inactive mod were the spam, and having 90000 threads about the same event. The new events subforum was neither here nor there to me. I like it, it's much more organized. And I like it even better now that you can put the events on the main page and they move to the top with the most current post like they used to. It's really nice having only one thread per event now.

Other than those issues, I liked things the way they were. To me a message board is a place where I can address multiple people publicly and have them reply to me. Or I can read an reply to something someone else has written and join in a group discussion.

When writing something in a regional forum, I do it because I want to discuss it with those particular people in that forum/area. Otherwise what's the point of having a regional forum at all? I don't think it should be meant just to announce local events. NYTA used to be a community. Now it's just a party planner.

It seems to me that we no longer have the freedom of speech that we once had around here. I miss being able to discuss things other than events with you guys. I don't see anything wrong with being able to discuss sports, dj advice, or any other topic with you guys so long as it's not offensive.

Moving threads seems the same as censorship to me when the people I want to read them never will.

Z, this is not directed towards you. You're doing an awesome job of upholding the rules around here.

Swamper, would you please allow us to have a little more freedom around here?


Posted by pyro264jb on Feb-26-2010 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by StarSoprano426

Swamper, would you please allow us to have a little more freedom around here?



Has anyone spoken with Dell? Whats his take on this.


Posted by yumpop on Feb-26-2010 06:17:

I agree that there is way too much censorship here. The thread about our birthdays for example, the three of us as we know are not promoters. We just wanted to let TAs know where we are celebrating our birthday since some of you do not have fb. There was only location info, who was on, there was not info about guestlists or who is promoting it. I preferred to leave that to the promoters of the event that would set an event on the event page. Still, the thread was closed and I was told to make an event thread. I really hope the event promoters will be able to make their thread because they should be able to get the word out on their event.

When CP changed, a lot of people left. You can find a bunch on NCC and a few still on rhythmism. I know I am newer to posting on TA but have read the boards for a while. The NYTAs are probably the most pleasant board community of active EDM people. It would be unfortunate for everyone to leave or post less. Give us our interviews, our sports, our threads we have interest in discussing with NYTAs even though it isn't an NY topic, and just continue to weed out the spam and multiple event threads. We had the changes for months and only now it is becoming excessive. It seems like euphoria should be given more pull. Remember, if you tighten the reins too much, you'll get a negative response.


Posted by EnigmaT on Feb-26-2010 07:25:

I think this is all some huge strategically thought out plan to over-moderate the forum so all you whiners who couldn't handle a little bit of spam and were crying for moderation, will now never complain about wanting supervision again.


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