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Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Mar-07-2010 14:23:

Apple i7 laptops, anyone know when?

Well atm I am using a Athlon 64 3.02Ghz pc. 512 Ram.

It's getting beyond comprehension in terms of speed, etc.

I want a new desktop but also for my job a laptop will be very useful.

I have seen a nice DELL i7 laptop (I know Dell, but this one is good, trust) but was wondering if apple are gonna go i7 soon with their shit?

Any ideas?


Posted by Timothy on Mar-07-2010 15:43:

Yes, i5 and i7 will be in the laptops. Probably in April.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Mar-07-2010 16:20:

As early as that? Sicness. How do you know?


Posted by kitphillips on Mar-08-2010 03:02:

Its supposed to have been coming for the last 6 months or so. I wouldn't bother with apple right now. Whatever's causing the delay is most likely a technical issue, maybe something to do with the intel vs nvidia chipset fiasco.

Also, no matter what happens, any processor they put in will most likely only be dual core, not one of the higher end quad core i7s. So the macbook will still be pitifully underpowered compared to a whole host of far cheaper options.

If you want something specifically for battery life and mobility then get a netbook, otherwise, get a more powerful pc laptop.


Posted by Fledz on Mar-08-2010 03:39:

Re: Apple i7 laptops, anyone know when?

quote:
Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
Well atm I am using a Athlon 64 3.02Ghz pc. 512 Ram.

It's getting beyond comprehension in terms of speed, etc.

I want a new desktop but also for my job a laptop will be very useful.

I have seen a nice DELL i7 laptop (I know Dell, but this one is good, trust) but was wondering if apple are gonna go i7 soon with their shit?

Any ideas?

Dell high end laptops are actually quite good. I've had one for years (XPS M1710) and never had an issue.
There's just such a high quantity of them sold that you naturally get a lot of bad reports, kind of like with iPods.

As for the question, they've been speculated about since last year but Apple don't see to be getting of their ass. No reason to yet because all the deluded hipsters still buy anything with an Apple logo on it.


Posted by RichieV on Mar-08-2010 04:05:

Maybe the deluded hipsters understand that those extra CPU cycles will be used for an antivirus program so in the end , it doesn't really mater.


Posted by Subtle on Mar-08-2010 05:37:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
Maybe the deluded hipsters understand that those extra CPU cycles will be used for an antivirus program so in the end , it doesn't really mater.
anti virus are for noobs.


Posted by kitphillips on Mar-08-2010 07:11:

Re: Re: Apple i7 laptops, anyone know when?

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Dell high end laptops are actually quite good. I've had one for years (XPS M1710) and never had an issue.
There's just such a high quantity of them sold that you naturally get a lot of bad reports, kind of like with iPods.

As for the question, they've been speculated about since last year but Apple don't see to be getting of their ass. No reason to yet because all the deluded hipsters still buy anything with an Apple logo on it.


The firewire controllers and other bits and pieces on dells are really bad. Or they were up until a year or two ago. Don't know if they've improved now. Also, because they're poorly designed, I think the core i7s are often being found to be underclocking to reduce heat a lot of the time. Can't remember where I heard that though.


Posted by echosystm on Mar-08-2010 07:57:

Re: Re: Re: Apple i7 laptops, anyone know when?

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
The firewire controllers and other bits and pieces on dells are really bad.


Standard MacBooks don't even have firewire anymore and haven't for some time. If you spend the same amount of cash on a Dell, rather than a MacBook Pro, you will get whatever firewire chipset your heart desires. Most of the bellyaching about Dell comes from people who buy at the low end and suffer the consequences.


Posted by Fledz on Mar-08-2010 08:15:

Re: Re: Re: Apple i7 laptops, anyone know when?

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
The firewire controllers and other bits and pieces on dells are really bad. Or they were up until a year or two ago. Don't know if they've improved now. Also, because they're poorly designed, I think the core i7s are often being found to be underclocking to reduce heat a lot of the time. Can't remember where I heard that though.

I've got one of the so called "bad" firewire connections. All I had to do was some basic research and find an AI which supports it without any issues. That was 3-4 years ago.


Posted by kitphillips on Mar-08-2010 08:40:

Well its a bit crap if your limited in your choices by your laptop's shoddy firewire IMO.

And I just think its emblematic of dell's approach. Make the components that are advertised high end (CPU, GPU, etc) while making the rest of the computer as cheaply as possible. I doubt whether that's changed in the last few years.


Posted by Fledz on Mar-08-2010 08:54:

Yea well I'd rather get a RICOH chipset than none at all.
They aren't that expensive to replace anyway.

To be honest I've been looking at a Mac to hook up to the DJ gear so I can throw Traktor and Ableton on but they are still way overpriced and I'd rather get a Win machine with an i5 than an old C2D Mac.


Posted by kitphillips on Mar-08-2010 12:02:

Well, I don't know how you'd go about replacing a firewire chipset build into the motherboard but anyway...

I'm not recommending mac at the moment by any means, I think they're the worst possible option right now. I'd recommend another manufacturer than dell though. Maybe toshiba, Asus, HP... not really sure which would be best.


Posted by RichieV on Mar-08-2010 12:06:

the worst ? They might not be the best deal strictly looking at components but given the fact that you can run OSX , it is still a good value. Stop being such a drama queen.


Posted by Fledz on Mar-08-2010 12:09:

That is if you actually want to use OSX.


Posted by RichieV on Mar-08-2010 12:58:

I suppose your cracked software might not work on it. That or you are a big gaming nerd. PC audio developpers are still pretty much designing for XP with a slight nod to windows 7 to be safe. It is still the only real 100% stable operating system for PC. Windows 7 is considered beta as far as any professional studio is concerned.

But ya , if you don't want to use OSX , then a PC is where it is at.


Posted by Subtle on Mar-08-2010 13:40:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
I suppose your cracked software might not work on it. That or you are a big gaming nerd. PC audio developpers are still pretty much designing for XP with a slight nod to windows 7 to be safe. It is still the only real 100% stable operating system for PC. Windows 7 is considered beta as far as any professional studio is concerned.
I just did the switch recently and Windows 7 is stable as a rock to me.. even more so than XP i would say (been using XP for 6 years straight)

Everything is much faster, smoother, and my app can actually use more than 1,5 GB RAM. Windows 7 rocks!

Multitasking is a lot better too, i can export a huge project in Cubase, while working with another track in Wavelab at the same time, no hicks.


Posted by RichieV on Mar-08-2010 13:51:

everything for you works great. Not every plugin or interface is supported. I still think it will be another year before they drop xp.


Posted by simonbostock on Mar-08-2010 14:10:

If you want to know if/when Apple are planning on updating their hardware, this website has generally been quite accurate.

link


Posted by kitphillips on Mar-08-2010 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
the worst ? They might not be the best deal strictly looking at components but given the fact that you can run OSX , it is still a good value. Stop being such a drama queen.


What a ridiculous statement. You know I generally agree with you dude, but paying an extra grand or two to run OSX is a bit rich considering that not every VST is even supported and it really has no inherent advantages to XP or windows 7.

Don't come in here and start an OS war. We're talking about hardware here. I'd love to buy a mac for the hardware quality alone, and then run windows. But the hardware isn't up to scratch at the moment and thats all there is to it.


Posted by RichieV on Mar-08-2010 15:28:

not going to take the bait. I would pay anything not to ever have to use a pc again ever.


Posted by evo8 on Mar-08-2010 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
I just did the switch recently and Windows 7 is stable as a rock to me.. even more so than XP i would say (been using XP for 6 years straight)

Everything is much faster, smoother, and my app can actually use more than 1,5 GB RAM. Windows 7 rocks!

Multitasking is a lot better too, i can export a huge project in Cubase, while working with another track in Wavelab at the same time, no hicks.


sounds good, will be upgrading from XP to 7 within the next fortnight hopefully


Posted by Storyteller on Mar-08-2010 16:33:

You won't regret it. I've got W7-64bit running since the day it hit the stores and it's working great. No problems whatsoever thus far, neither with vst's in Cubase, Renoise or Ableton Live. Except for Trillian, but that was a bug in the plugin itself when used with Ableton Live


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Mar-08-2010 18:08:

With all this in mind anyone care to recommend a decent laptop?

I don't mind paying the premium if it's gonna last (I still work on a 5 year old pc, but right now it is getting hella slow and I could do with a laptop for work)


Posted by RichieV on Mar-08-2010 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
You won't regret it. I've got W7-64bit running since the day it hit the stores and it's working great. No problems whatsoever thus far, neither with vst's in Cubase, Renoise or Ableton Live. Except for Trillian, but that was a bug in the plugin itself when used with Ableton Live


you just said there were no problems. A plugin not working is a pretty big problem.


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