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Posted by cleave on Mar-13-2010 12:29:

gemini cdj 203s worth it?

hi

i'm looking to buy some cdjs as ive been wanting to have a go for ages but im pretty skint. i reckon i can afford about �500 for decks, mixer and headphones so was looking at the gemini cdj 203s. i know they're obviously not as good as pioneers but they're quite alot cheaper than cdj100s and i just want to use them for playing around, not sure i'll be any good at it anyway.

the only real drawback i can see is that they don't have a bpm counter but i figure it'll be better to learn without relying on that anyway as most djs obviously learnt on vinyl without any of these assists and are better people for it. no scratching either but i don't know anyone who scratches. i'll mainly be playing trance and hard house.

has anyone used these at all and found the quality or feel of them really bad? can't seem to find decent reviews of decks anywhere. the other cdjs in the price range look like little walkmen.. just want to make sure these aren't all looks.


Posted by Simon_N on Mar-13-2010 12:45:

Probably not. If you cant afford to save up for pioneers then maybe have a look on ebay . I had a quick look and you can pick up a pair of denon dns1000 for about �400. I think i would probably prefer a pair of stanton cd decks over gemini.

examples

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/stanton-cd-pl...f#ht_500wt_1182

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Denon-DN-S100...#ht_2153wt_1167


Posted by MSZ on Mar-14-2010 00:47:

Re: gemini cdj 203s worth it?

quote:
Originally posted by cleave
hi

i'm looking to buy some cdjs as ive been wanting to have a go for ages but im pretty skint. i reckon i can afford about �500 for decks, mixer and headphones so was looking at the gemini cdj 203s. i know they're obviously not as good as pioneers but they're quite alot cheaper than cdj100s and i just want to use them for playing around, not sure i'll be any good at it anyway.

the only real drawback i can see is that they don't have a bpm counter but i figure it'll be better to learn without relying on that anyway as most djs obviously learnt on vinyl without any of these assists and are better people for it. no scratching either but i don't know anyone who scratches. i'll mainly be playing trance and hard house.

has anyone used these at all and found the quality or feel of them really bad? can't seem to find decent reviews of decks anywhere. the other cdjs in the price range look like little walkmen.. just want to make sure these aren't all looks.



lol man...

im pretty sure the only drawback with gemini gear IS

their shitty ass build quality that doesnt last for jack. bpm counter....... anyways, if you want to long lasting gear i suggest stay away from cheap products, just my 2 cents.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Mar-14-2010 01:44:

LOL


Posted by Brandt Slater on Mar-14-2010 18:11:

I've worked on Gemini gear before, and although it'll work in a pinch, I mean if that's what they provide fine, but I personally wouldn't spend my money on it. Check out eBay. Like Simon pointed out, there are a ton of Denon 1000's for sale, take a look at those. If not, you can find other stuff like Pioneer for cheap. BTW, don't worry about the bpm counter. You don't need it. I don't know any DJ who uses that thing. It does give a pretty cool light show though.


Posted by Ted Promo on Mar-14-2010 21:16:

You get what you pay for. That is all.


Posted by i got big pants on Mar-15-2010 16:43:

GET IT! best investment ever!!!

build quality is superb and will blow pionner and denons out of the water. people just dont know yet of gemini's superior status.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Mar-15-2010 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
GET IT! best investment ever!!!

build quality is superb and will blow pionner and denons out of the water. people just dont know yet of gemini's superior status.


waiting for the...I'm just kidding


Posted by i got big pants on Mar-15-2010 17:45:

no shit sherlock?


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Mar-15-2010 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
no shit sherlock?



Whom is this Sherlock feller?


Posted by i got big pants on Mar-15-2010 17:59:

sherlock is general term for a person who would need to wait for a "just kidding" response from a gemini is better than pioneer/denon response.

its all the rage now calling people sherlock. if you don't know now you know.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Mar-15-2010 18:41:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
sherlock is general term for a person who would need to wait for a "just kidding" response from a gemini is better than pioneer/denon response.

its all the rage now calling people sherlock. if you don't know now you know.


u missed what I did there.


Posted by i got big pants on Mar-15-2010 18:44:

and so did you...

congrats


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Mar-15-2010 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
and so did you...

congrats


fail bro...really.


Posted by i got big pants on Mar-15-2010 19:05:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
fail bro...really.


fail bro...really totally really fail...


Posted by Simon_N on Mar-17-2010 12:14:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
fail bro...really totally really fail...


Twat.


Posted by Adzy on Mar-17-2010 13:21:

I got these when starting out last August, a mate of mine who DJ's said they'd be really good and it was bit of a bargain about �450. He'd done the same with my other mate as well....

My other mate now has cdj1000's with a djm800 and I'm after them as well. Wish I was a bit more patient and got something much better than these in all honesty.

Best thing to do with equipment is get the best gear. Cheap products really do get cheap results.


Posted by Brandt Slater on Mar-17-2010 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Adzy


Best thing to do with equipment is get the best gear. Cheap products really do get cheap results.



Completely untrue. I've made cheap stuff work as a good or better than the best stuff. Just because it says Pioneer, doesn't mean a thing. I've had Pioneer stuff fail on me. Everything can fail no matter the price tag.


Posted by i got big pants on Mar-17-2010 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Simon_N
Twat.


Hey...its not nice to talk about your mother that way unless your butt buddies with kinetic energy.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Mar-17-2010 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
Hey...its not nice to talk about your mother that way unless your butt buddies with kinetic energy.


no...you really are a twat.


Posted by i got big pants on Mar-18-2010 17:27:

i'd like your mothers twat if that's okay. i'm sure you'll be calling me daddy that day after i get in there


Posted by leph555 on Mar-18-2010 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
i'd like your mothers twat if that's okay. i'm sure you'll be calling me daddy that day after i get in there



Posted by Jarvmeister on Mar-18-2010 18:44:

FFS - if you want to talk like a bunch of twelve year olds, do it in the COR.

quote:
Completely untrue. I've made cheap stuff work as a good or better than the best stuff. Just because it says Pioneer, doesn't mean a thing.


I have to disagree in part with this. Actually, like the Technics vinyl decks which just 'felt right', the Pioneer CDJs hit the nail on the head with their ease of use and functionality.

On paper the Technics SLDZ1200s looked like they would take the place as the industry standard CD decks, but in practise they were poorly designed and lacked key functionality.

That's not to say that you can't get good results with cheaper products, and it's fair to say that resale value is higher with the higher end stuff.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Mar-18-2010 21:42:

is it 500gbp for both decks, the mixer, and the headphones? what is that, like 700USD? i'd say if you're a beginner.. it depends on what the pitch resolution is. if it's .05 or .02 (both of which i severely doubt) then i say go for it. sure, it's gemini, but it'll get the job done. especially if that big fancy jog wheel actually has scratch/cue function similar to the pio cdj's. it looks like it from the picture, at least. don't treat your hardware like shit and they'll stay together longer.

don't go for the s1000's. i used to own a pair- they do get the job done, and are built like tanks, but the jog wheel feels like a toy and they're ugly as sin. of course, most importantly you will want to upgrade very quickly once you get accustomed to them, so you're in essence throwing away that 500 bucks or whatever on the pair for no reason. the pitch resolution is the biggest deal breaker for me there as well; .1 :P


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Mar-18-2010 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Adzy


Best thing to do with equipment is get the best gear. Cheap products really do get cheap results.


I agree, though depends on the situation...for CDJ's. the 800 or 200 are excellent choices, over getting 1000's. Mixers u don't skimp at all. U need good faders/sound quality or you're not taking it seriously, and your sets will sound like shite.



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