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Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-15-2010 13:25:

Torrent Download Speeds

I'm currently living at a house where the maximum internet connection available is 512k.

The maximum speed I can get here is a shocking 60k/s. When using Windows 7 I was getting the maximum, 60k/s, for torrents. However, now that I'm back on Windows XP all of a sudden I'm only getting 30k/s.

What possible reasons could there be for the drop in speed?

I am using port forwarding. However, even when not using port forwarding the same above still applies.


Posted by Chris Crossland on Mar-15-2010 13:36:

Dunno.

I was downloading three torrents yesterday and all of them we're cruising at over 500k/s It was soooo awesome some of them reaching 900k/s


Posted by Ridexer on Mar-15-2010 13:52:

Because torrents show different format of download speed that your internet speed does... Multiply by 8 and you get the "internet speed" amount.


Posted by Ash Parajuli on Mar-15-2010 13:53:

at least you have internet..


Posted by leph555 on Mar-15-2010 14:02:

I get maximum speeds possible from all of my torrents, and I never had to manually port forward anything.

Why are you using XP anyways?


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-15-2010 14:10:

quote:
Originally posted by leph555
Why are you using XP anyways?


Why not?


Posted by leph555 on Mar-15-2010 14:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Why not?


cause windows 7 is better


Posted by floyd741 on Mar-15-2010 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by leph555
cause windows 7 is better

No matter how much I love XP, I have to agree with this. OP, if there's no reason for you to be using XP besides "why not?" then you should definitely get back on Win 7.


Posted by Chris Crossland on Mar-15-2010 14:37:

I have a windows 7 upgrade but I'm afraid.


Posted by Ash Parajuli on Mar-15-2010 14:40:

got win7 on one of the pc's here at home but don't really know how to use it well.. too used to leopard and now snow leopard.


Posted by Sonic_c on Mar-15-2010 14:56:

Sometimes i can get 1.2mb on torrent dl speed here in uk. Cant understand why the xp matters cause im on xp.

Remember your isp could be throttling you because it has become aware of the ports your using. try obfustication


Posted by Terrence Parker on Mar-15-2010 15:19:

Could be something with the maximum tcp connection limit in xp:
http://www.techiecorner.com/34/how-...download-speed/


Posted by boris_the_bear on Mar-15-2010 15:29:

three valid points why 7 > XP and you have me convinced:

1.
2.
3.

i'm listening

is it faster? is it easier to use? and finally - are the new features worth the extra system resources?


Posted by Ian on Mar-15-2010 15:54:

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
three valid points why 7 > XP and you have me convinced:

1.
2.
3.

i'm listening

is it faster? is it easier to use? and finally - are the new features worth the extra system resources?


over vista it's a huge improvement. Over xp, it'll take time for me to get used to it, i have win7 on my lappy and xp pro on my desktop which i've not used for a while now.

1- tabbed everything. It's easy to switch between and keeps the taskbar decluttered. You want a browser window? all in one place.

2- the split screen thing is pretty neat when you're just doing 2 things like 2 msn convos. No faffing around

3- it's not vista

Either way I'm betting it's your isp mike. Who are you with? Most are throttling and be careful cos there's tons of port monitoring going on now, i got an email from my previous one over a file. It's going to get even worse soon imo with the new laws they wanna bring in.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Mar-15-2010 16:31:

Speeds are not related to using XP or win7/vista...it's in the settings of your torrent tracker. Make sure u don't have speeds capped at 30...especially check your upload settings. Keep your uploads low since that affects your down substantially.


Posted by leebates1986 on Mar-15-2010 16:52:

amount of seeders (their connection) is also another factor


Posted by boris_the_bear on Mar-15-2010 17:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
1- tabbed everything. It's easy to switch between and keeps the taskbar decluttered. You want a browser window? all in one place.

2- the split screen thing is pretty neat when you're just doing 2 things like 2 msn convos. No faffing around

3- it's not vista

imo that's not even close to being worth upgrading to a completely new OS (imo!)


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Mar-15-2010 17:04:

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
imo that's not even close to being worth upgrading to a completely new OS (imo!)


Win 7 has all the cool parts of Vista, without all the problems of Vista. It is the fastest most stable windows yet. No need to upgrade, if u are happy with what u have then there is no reason. If u want to have the latest and greatest and are a geek that wants the new cooler features then get it. You won't be disappointed.


Posted by boris_the_bear on Mar-15-2010 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Win 7 has all the cool parts of Vista, without all the problems of Vista. It is the fastest most stable windows yet. No need to upgrade, if u are happy with what u have then there is no reason. If u want to have the latest and greatest and are a geek that wants the new cooler features then get it. You won't be disappointed.

don't mean to start a holy war but:
- by "faster" we mean one OS outperforming another OS on the exact same machine. are you saying that 7 requires LESS system resources?
- what is "cool" in a system of purely functional essence? when i think of an operation system, i think of speed and useful features. if it's slower and less or equally useful, then fuck it


Posted by Leif on Mar-15-2010 17:30:

Re: Torrent Download Speeds

Which ISP? 60KB/s and 30KB/s are common thresholds for bandwidth throttling...

The window management improvements for Win 7 make it worth the upgrade IMO.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Mar-15-2010 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
don't mean to start a holy war but:
- by "faster" we mean one OS outperforming another OS on the exact same machine. are you saying that 7 requires LESS system resources?
- what is "cool" in a system of purely functional essence? when i think of an operation system, i think of speed and useful features. if it's slower and less or equally useful, then fuck it


Win 7 does need a much more powerful machine to run it compared to XP. If you're on an older machine then stick with XP for sure. Comparing the 2 on a new build...Win 7 is faster.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-15-2010 18:09:

The fact of the matter is I have Windows XP. I don't have Windows 7. Recommending an alternative O/S when I'm asking for help on a different one is as unhelpful and ignorant as it is annoying. I've been using Windows 7 for a year now. I know the benefits. When I'm ready to pay for it I will. But for now I want to troubleshoot the problem I'm having on my current setup.



quote:
Originally posted by Terrence Parker
Could be something with the maximum tcp connection limit in xp:
http://www.techiecorner.com/34/how-...download-speed/


There are a few 4226 IDs in my event viewer but I don't think it happens frequently enough for this to be the problem. But it's worth a shot. I'll change my TCP connection limit and see if it helps. Cheers.



quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Speeds are not related to using XP or win7/vista...it's in the settings of your torrent tracker. Make sure u don't have speeds capped at 30...especially check your upload settings. Keep your uploads low since that affects your down substantially.


Well be that as it may that IS the case here. 1 week ago I was getting 60k/s on Windows 7. Immediately after going back to XP I'm getting 30k/s. My upload settings in my torrent tracker are low and my download speeds uncapped.



By the way my ISP is Pipex. But, I don't see why bandwidth throttling would be an issue on one O/S and not another.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Mar-15-2010 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
The fact of the matter is I have Windows XP. I don't have Windows 7. Recommending an alternative O/S when I'm asking for help on a different one is as unhelpful and ignorant as it is annoying. I've been using Windows 7 for a year now. I know the benefits. When I'm ready to pay for it I will. But for now I want to troubleshoot the problem I'm having on my current setup.





There are a few 4226 IDs in my event viewer but I don't think it happens frequently enough for this to be the problem. But it's worth a shot. I'll change my TCP connection limit and see if it helps. Cheers.





Well be that as it may that IS the case here. 1 week ago I was getting 60k/s on Windows 7. Immediately after going back to XP I'm getting 30k/s. My upload settings in my torrent tracker are low and my download speeds uncapped.



By the way my ISP is Pipex. But, I don't see why bandwidth throttling would be an issue on one O/S and not another.


it's not the OS....it's either your isp or torrent software u are using. Can u d/l a file somewhere else at the faster speed?


Posted by Ian on Mar-15-2010 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
imo that's not even close to being worth upgrading to a completely new OS (imo!)


well it did help that my new laptop came with a free upgrade from vista within 2 weeks of buying it


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Mar-15-2010 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
it's not the OS....it's either your isp or torrent software u are using. Can u d/l a file somewhere else at the faster speed?


If I download a direct download link without a download manager I get the full 60k/s. It's only torrents that aren't going above 30k/s. Suppose I could try another torrent client. I'm using exactly the same client as I was with Windows 7 though, with the same settings too.


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