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Sampler VST for loops with automatic timestretching?

Is there a sampler out there that you can load in loops (as WAV) and have them automatically played back at the song tempo?

I have a lot of loops, but most of them are at 128-130 and I have been writing a lot of tracks a 124-126 lately. I'm using EXS24 currently for my one shots, but it doesn't have the ability to timestretch loops on the fly. If I have a 128 loop, I have to load it into the arrange window to timestretch it. Thats not real ideal when auditioning many loops at once. I'd like to find a sampler that I can load in a bunch of loops, map them to the keys, then play them back synced to the current song tempo.

Anyone know of a sampler that will do that?

ableton

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Originally posted by palm ableton

That doesn't really work well for auditioning loops quickly. I'd prefer to have a Software Instrument.

MOTU MachFive has a feature they call Loop Lab, which is designed for adjusting the tempo of a loop, among other things.

It's not completely seamless like Ableton, you're sort of working offline, but I think it would get you about halfway to where you want.

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Originally posted by Eric J That doesn't really work well for auditioning loops quickly. I'd prefer to have a Software Instrument.

how does ableton not work for auditioning loops quickly? its drag and drop.

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Originally posted by Nightshift how does ableton not work for auditioning loops quickly? its drag and drop.

Try dragging and dropping 100 loops quickly. I can audition 50 one shots in about 10 seconds with EXS24 because its all mapped to the keyboard. I can probably audition 5 loops in that same amount of time with the drag and drop method.

It does appear though that doing things in Live may be my only option for now. Not quite as convenient, but, hey, you do what you have to do.

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Originally posted by Eric J Try dragging and dropping 100 loops quickly.

just did, took less than 10 seconds.

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Originally posted by Nightshift just did, took less than 10 seconds.

You must know something I dont. I just dont see how that's possible without creating 100 audio tracks.

But its cool, whatever, different strokes for different folks.

Redmatica keymap?

Just tried it and found out that I can make Apple Loops out of all of my loop samples, so I think that's the route I am going to go.

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Originally posted by Eric J You must know something I dont. I just dont see how that's possible without creating 100 audio tracks. But its cool, whatever, different strokes for different folks.

Well assuming you have all the loops you are referring to in the same folder, you just open that folder in the browser and highlight all the loops and then drag over to session view and wala, x amount of loops on the same audio channel instanly warped.

hope this helps.


EDIT: from there you can take loops that u like and drag them to new audio channels, chop them, etc.

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Originally posted by Eric J Try dragging and dropping 100 loops quickly. I can audition 50 one shots in about 10 seconds with EXS24 because its all mapped to the keyboard. I can probably audition 5 loops in that same amount of time with the drag and drop method. It does appear though that doing things in Live may be my only option for now. Not quite as convenient, but, hey, you do what you have to do.

You don't even have to drag them dude, use ableton's browser and preview mode and you just click them and they play looped to the right tempo.

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Originally posted by kitphillips You don't even have to drag them dude, use ableton's browser and preview mode and you just click them and they play looped to the right tempo.

Yeah, someone already mentioned that, but thanks. I just turned them into Apple Loops. Problem solved.

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Originally posted by Eric J Just tried it and found out that I can make Apple Loops out of all of my loop samples, so I think that's the route I am going to go.

How do you do that? I've been trying to figure that shit out forever. What I've been doing in the meantime is using Logic's timestretch and it's awful

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Originally posted by bas How do you do that? I've been trying to figure that shit out forever. What I've been doing in the meantime is using Logic's timestretch and it's awful

You have to use the Apply Loops Utility, located in Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities. Add it to your Dock so you can access it quickly next time.

Just launch it and its pretty self explanatory from there. Really easy, and then you have everything as loops, fully chopped and sliced. Brilliant.

the only problem with apple loops: you can't merge several regions. It's really annoying.

I don't know if you noticed this, eric, but each time you "loop" a region, chance is big that the region's end is not exactly on time (it ends with a dotted value, or even worse, a few ticks too early or too late). You cannot do anything with apple loops in aiff format, the workaround should be bounce in place of your region without fx, then cut at the right position, then repeat region and merge.

I haven't used apple loops that much anymore because of that. I hate it when regions are not exactly spot on.

I don't know any vsti that timestretches on the fly. RMV or bpm maybe? you should check out uvi workstation too! It's free by the way.

Fruity Loops Wins Again.

This is seriously why I don't wanna switch DAW's. Fruity just fucking rocks.

inb4 no multicore support. developer a twat. not a real toy.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 Fruity Loops Wins Again.

Unless they've made major improvements in the last two versions, I seem to recall FL's time stretching sounding pretty awful. But even if it's improved, this isn't an answer, he was looking for a plugin, not a sequencer. No trolling please.

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Originally posted by Lolo the only problem with apple loops: you can't merge several regions. It's really annoying. I don't know if you noticed this, eric, but each time you "loop" a region, chance is big that the region's end is not exactly on time (it ends with a dotted value, or even worse, a few ticks too early or too late). You cannot do anything with apple loops in aiff format, the workaround should be bounce in place of your region without fx, then cut at the right position, then repeat region and merge. I haven't used apple loops that much anymore because of that. I hate it when regions are not exactly spot on. I don't know any vsti that timestretches on the fly. RMV or bpm maybe? you should check out uvi workstation too! It's free by the way.

Hmm, that's something I'll have to keep an eye out for. I haven't used any of the new Apple Loops just yet in a production, but I'm fixing to start on a new track tonight, so I'll check it out then. In any case, another forum member is going to get me sorted with Guru, and that just might solve them problem among providing other benefits.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 Fruity Loops Wins Again. This is seriously why I don't wanna switch DAW's. Fruity just fucking rocks. inb4 no multicore support. developer a twat. not a real toy.

I checked out Fruity a few years ago before I switched to the Apple platform, and, yeah, it's just not for me.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Unless they've made major improvements in the last two versions, I seem to recall FL's time stretching sounding pretty awful. But even if it's improved, this isn't an answer, he was looking for a plugin, not a sequencer. No trolling please.

Precisely, I mean why would I switch platforms, and give up all the benefits of Logic just for that? It'd be insanity. I'd rather just rewire into Ableton before I'd ever consider doing that.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Unless they've made major improvements in the last two versions, I seem to recall FL's time stretching sounding pretty awful. But even if it's improved, this isn't an answer, he was looking for a plugin, not a sequencer. No trolling please.

I think they use the same algorithm as ableton, cubase logic etc now.

Its the izotope one I think...

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Originally posted by DigiNut Unless they've made major improvements in the last two versions, I seem to recall FL's time stretching sounding pretty awful. But even if it's improved, this isn't an answer, he was looking for a plugin, not a sequencer. No trolling please.

Suck my nuts digi.

Wasn't a troll.

If he had fruity he wouldn't need a plugin.

And incidentally fruity's is pretty much spot on.

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Originally posted by Eric J You have to use the Apply Loops Utility, located in Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities. Add it to your Dock so you can access it quickly next time. Just launch it and its pretty self explanatory from there. Really easy, and then you have everything as loops, fully chopped and sliced. Brilliant.

I really should crack open that user manual eh? Thanks

Lolo, are you talking about merging several pre-existing Apple Loops or merging ones you've created with yourself?

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