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Posted by osterzone on Mar-22-2010 04:16:

Exclamation Obama healthcare passes


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-22-2010 04:18:

Do you have anything intellectually feeble to say so that we may laugh at you?


Posted by Renzo on Mar-22-2010 04:20:


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-22-2010 04:25:

I am still confused as to the deal they made regarding abortion; mostly because iv heard of it but have not heard other info about it.

Anybody care to elaborate?


Posted by kadomony on Mar-22-2010 04:28:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
I am still confused as to the deal they made regarding abortion; mostly because iv heard of it but have not heard other info about it.

Anybody care to elaborate?


baby killer.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Mar-22-2010 04:29:

America is now in the fast lane on the way to socialism.

Yeah!


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-22-2010 04:37:

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
baby killer.
indeed.


Posted by w_ashley on Mar-22-2010 04:49:

Ok just to clarify - everyone in the US has to buy health insurance now - but if they are poor they pay less?

Is this the new universal healthcare?




Where as before the hospitals paid for emergency care and people went broke if they had money?


Posted by RandomGirl on Mar-22-2010 04:55:

More info on this would be nice. What is the policy? What's going to happen!?


Posted by jupiterone on Mar-22-2010 05:14:

OMFG I DONT WANT TO BE A COMMUNIST OR SOCIALIST I JUST WANT TO BE A PROUD AMERICAN WHO CAN PICK HEALTH CARE. OMFG MY LIFE IS OVER OMFG OMFGOMFGOMFGOMFG ZEPPELIN DOWN


Posted by tubularbills on Mar-22-2010 05:17:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100322...h_care_overhaul


Posted by Fledz on Mar-22-2010 05:21:

Seriously, can we just bomb this country already? Perhaps the Yanks want to do it for us since they always seem to be so trigger happy. Oh wai....


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Mar-22-2010 05:21:

basically people will be forced to have health insurance. This means it will be illegal not to have it. Employers must provide it to their employees and insurance companies have to change their mandate to take on clients (Basically reduce their acceptance standards)

This is good for the healthcare providers and manufacturers but, on the contrary to what i initially thought, it should adversely effect insurance companies as they will not be as profitable due to more claims being met.


so perhaps we will see a big drop in the markets tomorrow in the insurance/financial sector.


Posted by w_ashley on Mar-22-2010 05:28:

quote:
Originally posted by ********
Ok just to clarify - everyone in the US has to buy health insurance now - but if they are poor they pay less?

Is this the new universal healthcare?




Where as before the hospitals paid for emergency care and people went broke if they had money?


BTW will the health insurance industry make more money than the health care system will cost?


I smell new jobs for clerical work in the insurance industry.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Mar-22-2010 05:46:

i dont think this will help insurance companies. Sure they will have more clients but the percentage of claims will dramatically go up. Those who were denied insurance before must be insured and the can only charge so much of a premium to those of high risks.

This could hurt the financial markets pretty bad.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-22-2010 05:54:

quote:
Originally posted by ********
BTW will the health insurance industry make more money than the health care system will cost?


I smell new jobs for clerical work in the insurance industry.


you're about as likely to be able to understand the complexities of the health bill as you are to win a self-represented court case for being a thieving little bastard.


Posted by The17sss on Mar-22-2010 06:10:

"Forget economic reality, I want me benefits"
-John Q. Democrat

History was indeed made today... for the first time in U.S. history, major legislation was passed that undermined a vast majority of the people's wishes. 234 years as a representative republic is over- and I'm not being melodramatic; those Americans on here that believe it's fine for the politicians that WE elect to not actually represent those who elected them... well, you know the rest. This is what you voted for; all these comments are from the last few days:

quote:
OBAMA: "I don�t spend a lot of time worrying about what the procedural rules are in the House or Senate."


quote:
Democrat Congressman (and impeached judge) Alcee Hastings:

There ain't no rules around here, we're trying to accomplish something. And therefore, when the deal goes down, all this talk about rules, we make them up as we go along.


quote:
Democrat Rep. Tom Perriello of Virginia:

The only way to get Congress to balance a budget is to give them no choice; If you don't tie our hands, we will keep stealing.


quote:
Nancy Pelosi: We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.


But it's for our own good... what do we know? Mark Steyn sums it up best:

quote:
We hard-hearted small-government guys are often damned as selfish types who care nothing for the general welfare. But, as the Greek protests make plain, nothing makes an individual more selfish than the socially equitable communitarianism of big government: Once a chap's enjoying the fruits of government health care, government-paid vacation, government-funded early retirement, and all the rest, he couldn't give a hoot about the general societal interest; he's got his, and to hell with everyone else. People's sense of entitlement endures long after the entitlement has ceased to make sense.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-22-2010 06:18:

i love the reforms if for no other reason to see hacks like 17sss whinge like bitches.


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-22-2010 06:18:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
"Forget economic reality, I want me benefits"
-John Q. Democrat

History was indeed made today... for the first time in U.S. history, major legislation was passed that undermined a vast majority of the people's wishes. 234 years as a representative republic is over- and I'm not being melodramatic; those Americans on here that believe it's fine for the politicians that WE elect to not actually represent those who elected them... well, you know the rest. This is what you voted for; all these comments are from the last few days:







But it's for our own good... what do we know? Mark Steyn sums it up best:
Needs more Glenn Beck.


Posted by The17sss on Mar-22-2010 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i love the reforms if for no other reason to see hacks like 17sss whinge like bitches.



Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-22-2010 06:21:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss


don't be sad champ, you're an awesome bloke til politics crops up in conversation.


Posted by Lews on Mar-22-2010 06:24:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
don't be sad champ, you're an awesome bloke til politics crops up in conversation.


True that.

The same can't be said about a lot of other people.


Posted by The17sss on Mar-22-2010 06:25:

well... thanks guys I sincerely appreciate the kind words. I feel like I got punched in the stomach tonight so it's nice to hear.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-22-2010 06:25:

quote:
If you don't tie our hands, we will keep stealing.


Interesting choice of words to prove the point of a likewise fiscal conservative...


Posted by Clovis on Mar-22-2010 06:28:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
"Forget economic reality, I want me benefits"
-John Q. Democrat

History was indeed made today... for the first time in U.S. history, major legislation was passed that undermined a vast majority of the people's wishes. 234 years as a representative republic is over- and I'm not being melodramatic; those Americans on here that believe it's fine for the politicians that WE elect to not actually represent those who elected them... well, you know the rest. This is what you voted for; all these comments are from the last few days:









But it's for our own good... what do we know? Mark Steyn sums it up best:


We want to increase and facilitate access to healthcare for people in this country, the fucking horror!!

You can talk all the shit you want and pull any number of bullshit quotes from our joke of a political discourse in this country up, it doesn't change the bottom line. We need healthcare reform, whether or not half this country was brainwashed into thinking this is a communist trojan horse, or that they're gonna pull the plug on grandma, or this is part of Obama's Nazi agenda.

The rest of the civilized world is doing just fine providing a basic level of care to ALL citizens.


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