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Earth Hour this Sat March 27 at 8:30 p.m.

How will you be contributing or participating?
Turning lights off for 1hr?

I will not be participating in this useless event.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I will not be participating in this useless event.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I will not be participating in this useless event.

This is what you guys are

By attempting to get every person I know to turn on every light and appliance they own.

I couldnt put it better than Lorrie Goldstein. He is 100% on the money here:

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Earth Hour: Lights off, nobody home By LORRIE GOLSTEIN, This Saturday, many Canadians will briefly shun electricity. They�ll sit in the dark for an hour during the fourth annual Earth Hour, the WWF-inspired global �lights out� campaign, symbolically protesting man-made climate change. Let�s hope those participating, starting at 8:30 p.m., think about this issue seriously, not superficially. For example, it�s become trendy during Earth Hour to light candles indoors to celebrate the brief absence of electricity. Problem is, this creates far more indoor air pollution than keeping the lights on. And if you�re planning a bonfire to show your green credentials, sorry. Burning wood emits greenhouse gases and air pollution. In the First World, we�re lucky. We can choose fire over electricity for an hour to show (ineffectively) how �green� we are. By contrast, 1.5 billion people in the Third World don�t have that luxury. They don�t have electricity. They�re stuck with fire, fuelled by wood and animal dung, to heat, light and cook in their homes. As a direct result millions die, every year, decades before their time, choking on indoor air pollution. Only in the affluent West do we naively romanticize a world without electricity as one of shepherds tending their flocks. Those without electricity know better. Without electricity, life is nasty, brutal and short. People must stop work when the sun goes down. They can�t preserve food or create sterile medical environments, or any of the other benefits of civilization which prolong life. Ironically, they are particularly vulnerable to climate change. A coal-fired electricity plant, however much denounced by First World greens, saves lives in the Third World compared to the alternative, even factoring in smog and pollution, which is why China builds one a week. How will we face our grandchildren and tell them we did nothing to stop catastrophic death counts caused by climate change, demands today�s smug warmist. Better ask him how he will face his grandchildren and tell them he campaigned for consigning hundreds of millions to catastrophe by denouncing the very forms of energy by which we powered ourselves out of the Third World, into the First. No easy answers In the real world, responsible choices are complicated and hard. No easy answers can be found in computer models, vainly trying to predict the climate a century from now. Contrary to what warmists believe, the choice is not a simple one between saving or destroying our planet by burning fossil fuels. Rather, we must choose wisely in the face of multiple threats confronting humanity. Understanding begins with realizing there�s no such thing as �good� or �bad� energy. There�s just energy, each type with advantages and drawbacks. Coal, oil and natural gas, in descending order, emit pollution and greenhouse gases but supply relatively cheap, reliable, life-giving, life-extending electricity. Nuclear power emits neither, but costs more and produces radioactive waste. Wind and solar power are �clean� but so unreliable and expensive at present that the more we prematurely force them on anyone, including ourselves, the more harm we do. Why? Because this leads to unreliable electricity supply, skyrocketing prices, more poverty, more deaths and less green, since only societies which can feed their people, care about the Earth. Finally, think, if you�re sitting in the dark, for an hour, about what it would be like to live that way, every hour, as 1.5 billion people do. Think hard.

BTW... WOW to all the political threads and i only started 1 out of th half dozen current ones.

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Originally posted by Jayx1

Great article.

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Originally posted by Jay Leno Great article.

it is..

ive often used the same arguement about bottled water as well. If not for bottled water, a lot of the places ive been to wouldnt have any water suited for drinking at all.

But thats another thread i guess LOL

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Originally posted by The Ear By attempting to get every person I know to turn on every light and appliance they own.

I dont think this event is about using less electricity for one hour its about raising global awareness.

That being said I will not participate.


And Jay thats a really interesting article.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 it is.. ive often used the same arguement about bottled water as well. If not for bottled water, a lot of the places ive been to wouldnt have any water suited for drinking at all. But thats another thread i guess LOL

crap...and this is one of those rare times i want to hear your rantings. please post explanation!


and i'll be at work. i know they (czehoskis) tried to last year, but didn't work out well, so doubt we'll do it this year.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I will not be participating in this useless event.

i will turn on my Christmas lights on lol

No thanks.

gonna turn everything in the house off the entire night.. way better than an hour.. chill by my fire pit and drink some beers!

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I will not be participating in this useless event.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I will not be participating in this useless event.

im taking part in "edison hour". A celebration of Thomas Edison, his discovery of electricity and the invention of the light bulb.

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Originally posted by jsibilin gonna turn everything in the house off the entire night.. way better than an hour.. chill by my fire pit and drink some beers!

idiot, did you read this :

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Burning wood emits greenhouse gases and air pollution.

you're worse than hitler !!!!

p.s. earth can go fuck herself and bring all these bleeding hearth hippie douchebags along. i will egg every single house i see tonight with the lights off.

kissy time!

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Originally posted by Jayx1 im taking part in "edison hour". A celebration of Thomas Edison, his shameless stealing of Tesla's ideas of electricity and the so called invention of the light bulb.

fixed

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Originally posted by Jayx1 I couldnt put it better than Lorrie Goldstein. He is 100% on the money here:

Lorrie Goldstein is obviously a fucking idiot who has the reading comprehension of a five year old.

AND HE WRITES FOR THE TORONTO SUN

A: Earth Hour is an awareness event that hopes to inspire people to think about climate change, and DOES NOT hope to provide a sustainable alternative to using electricity in our every day lives.

B: Maintaining or increasing current energy consumption WILL NOT solve poverty in the third world. I really don't even understand why he includes such an argument in the article. Really left field.

C: Earth Hour is not meant to "romanticize" a world without electricity. Again, not sure where he got this...?

D: While he is correct in that energy is energy (only transferable, not to be created or destroyed), there are "better" choices. For instance, all the auto companies are investing significantly in new engine plants as the technology currently exists and is deemed worthwhile to invest in to create lower consumption IC engines. This change is driven BY CONSUMERS.

Indeed Ford recently REVAMPED the Essex engine plate for a grand total of three-quarters of a BILLION dollars. Spendy, but now worthwhile.

Investments in solar, wind and geothermal energy sources have increased SIGNIFICANTLY over the last decade as folks have become more aware of the world's energy requirements versus current infrastructure's capacity and sources.

Wind and solar energy use will cause skyrocketing prices, poverty and death? Whoa!

We need to look at the big picture with climate change and energy. Do research and be informed. It's important (I plan to live another 60 years) and now's the time to make a difference.

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