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Posted by woscar on Apr-19-2010 16:54:

Catholics are outraged...again



Priest caricature a commentary on recent sex abuse scandal
By Scott Roxborough
April 9, 2010, 12:49 PM ET


COLOGNE, Germany -- A German cartoon mocking the Catholic Church has sparked holy outrage among believers here who say it incites hatred against the Pope and the Catholic faith.

The caricature, published in the Good Friday edition of satire magazine Titanic, shows a priest apparently having oral sex with a crucifix of Jesus on the cross.

The crucifix cartoon is a barbed commentary on recent revelations that 250 people in Germany were sexual abused at Church-run schools in the past decades. The scandal has shaken the German Church. A recent poll said Germans' trust in the Catholic Church had fallen to 17% from 29% in late January and approval ratings for Pope Benedict have dropped from 38% to 24%.

The German Press Council reported that some 100 formal complaints have been filed since the magazine came out, a level of protest not seen since 2006, when German newspaper Die Welt reprinted the infamous Danish Mohammed cartoons.

Two criminal complaints have also been filed against the cartoonist and the editors of Titanic, claiming the picture slanders their religion. The state prosecutors office in Frankfurt, where Titanic is based, said it would decide next week whether to begin an investigation against the magazine.

"We were shocked -- shocked! -- By the reaction to the cartoon," Titanic editor-in-chief Leo Fischer told THR, his tongue firmly in cheek. "It shows a priest cleaning the crucifix. ... I find it strange that Catholics immediately think of sex when they see it."

Fischer added that since the German Catholic Church had not formally complained about the cartoon, he assumed they shared his views on the matter.

A spokesman for the German Catholic Church could not be reached for comment Friday.

SOURCE


Posted by adi_hanson on Apr-19-2010 16:56:

Its why choirboys have center partings.


Posted by Meat187 on Apr-19-2010 17:44:

I only wish you could do the same with Jews or Muslims, but apparently those two are untouchable.


Posted by MGT on Apr-19-2010 17:49:

On a similar subject of Catholics being outraged, there's a documentary about Jesus being a Buddhist:

Jesus in India (2008)
"A former Fundamentalist from Texas is ousted from his church for asking unwelcome questions about the "missing years" of Jesus - the years from 12 to 30 unaccounted for in the Bible. The Texan, author Edward T. Martin, undertakes a seeker's question across 4,000 miles of India in search of evidence and answers about where Jesus was during those "Lost Years." An impressive array of Religious scholars and authorities weighs in, developing the cases for and against the theory of Jesus having traveled extensively in India. Written by Paul Davids

Author Edward T. Martin documents a fact-based account of Lord Jesus Christ's 4000 mile journey from Israel to India from the ages of 12 to 30. During this time He lived at Jaggannath Puri (which has been in existence since 486 BC)and Meenakshi Mandirs in Madurai, Chennai, and learned about patience and compassion from Hindu priests, though he did speak out against the Hindu Caste system. He also journeyed to Dharamshala as well as Ladakh, Tibet, to live amongst Buddhists. At age 30 He returned back, was baptized, and two years later was tortured, and eventually crucified by Roman ruler Pontius Pilate. The Lord did survive, was nursed back to health by his mother, Holy Mother Virgin Mary, and both eventually returned to India, where subsequently the Holy Mother was laid to rest at a tomb in Murree, India (now in Pakistan), while the Lord himself was entombed in Srinagar. With strong denials from the Vatican, the author now attempts to secure DNA samples of the Lord from His final resting place in Khanyar Street - now believed to be the resting place of Islamic Saint Youeza - amidst anger from the local Muslim community."



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1341329/

http://www.jesus-in-india-the-movie.com/




This reminds me of another movie:

The Man from Earth (2007)
"An impromptu goodbye party for Professor John Oldman becomes a mysterious interrogation after the retiring scholar reveals to his colleagues he is an immortal who has walked the earth for 14,000 years."



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Apr-19-2010 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
I only wish you could do the same with Jews or Muslims, but apparently those two are untouchable.


don't worry meat.. jesus still loves you.


Posted by leph555 on Apr-19-2010 17:54:

quote:
Originally posted by MGT
On a similar subject of Catholics being outraged, there's a documentary about Jesus being a Buddhist:

Jesus in India (2008)
"A former Fundamentalist from Texas is ousted from his church for asking unwelcome questions about the "missing years" of Jesus - the years from 12 to 30 unaccounted for in the Bible. The Texan, author Edward T. Martin, undertakes a seeker's question across 4,000 miles of India in search of evidence and answers about where Jesus was during those "Lost Years." An impressive array of Religious scholars and authorities weighs in, developing the cases for and against the theory of Jesus having traveled extensively in India. Written by Paul Davids

Author Edward T. Martin documents a fact-based account of Lord Jesus Christ's 4000 mile journey from Israel to India from the ages of 12 to 30. During this time He lived at Jaggannath Puri (which has been in existence since 486 BC)and Meenakshi Mandirs in Madurai, Chennai, and learned about patience and compassion from Hindu priests, though he did speak out against the Hindu Caste system. He also journeyed to Dharamshala as well as Ladakh, Tibet, to live amongst Buddhists. At age 30 He returned back, was baptized, and two years later was tortured, and eventually crucified by Roman ruler Pontius Pilate. The Lord did survive, was nursed back to health by his mother, Holy Mother Virgin Mary, and both eventually returned to India, where subsequently the Holy Mother was laid to rest at a tomb in Murree, India (now in Pakistan), while the Lord himself was entombed in Srinagar. With strong denials from the Vatican, the author now attempts to secure DNA samples of the Lord from His final resting place in Khanyar Street - now believed to be the resting place of Islamic Saint Youeza - amidst anger from the local Muslim community."



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1341329/

http://www.jesus-in-india-the-movie.com/




This reminds me of another movie:

The Man from Earth (2007)
"An impromptu goodbye party for Professor John Oldman becomes a mysterious interrogation after the retiring scholar reveals to his colleagues he is an immortal who has walked the earth for 14,000 years."



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/


you are the most annoying poster here, GTFO


Posted by MGT on Apr-19-2010 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by leph555
you are the most annoying poster here, GTFO


Wow wtf?


Posted by Moral Hazard on Apr-19-2010 18:23:

I'm not going to comment about the claim that Catholics are outraged, as I noted no outrage yesterday... presumably some probably are though.

With regard to the whole Jesus in India thing... improbable. Are there similarities between some of Jesus' ministry and buddhism, sure; however, it seems far more likely any buddhist influance on Jesus would have come from interactions with traders travelling from the sub-continent then from him travelling to India. So many people are intrigued by the "missing years." There have long since been speculation that the church is covering something up; however, it's more likely that nothing is writen becuase nothing of any real interest happened. All the gospels were writen for specific communities with a specific intention and stories of Jesus learning how to carve stone, working on building projects near Nazareth, and generally living a normal working class 1st centure Galilean life don't really serve the purpose of any of the gospels. It's most probable that Jesus had an entirely normal life up until his ministry... he probably learned a trade, worked, married, etc.


Posted by MGT on Apr-19-2010 18:35:

The act of covering up does not automatically imply guilt of all speculations.


Posted by woscar on Apr-19-2010 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I'm not going to comment about the claim that Catholics are outraged, as I noted no outrage yesterday... presumably some probably are though.

With regard to the whole Jesus in India thing... improbable. Are there similarities between some of Jesus' ministry and buddhism, sure; however, it seems far more likely any buddhist influance on Jesus would have come from interactions with traders travelling from the sub-continent then from him travelling to India. So many people are intrigued by the "missing years." There have long since been speculation that the church is covering something up; however, it's more likely that nothing is writen becuase nothing of any real interest happened. All the gospels were writen for specific communities with a specific intention and stories of Jesus learning how to carve stone, working on building projects near Nazareth, and generally living a normal working class 1st centure Galilean life don't really serve the purpose of any of the gospels. It's most probable that Jesus had an entirely normal life up until his ministry... he probably learned a trade, worked, married, etc.


Or...maybe it's improbable simply because Jesus' existance is itself, improbable.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Apr-19-2010 21:10:

its quite possible that he lived the first time round. ressurection? kind of unlikely.


Posted by leph555 on Apr-19-2010 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
its quite possible that he lived the first time round. ressurection? kind of unlikely.


I bet he was a real asshole in his time


Posted by woscar on Apr-19-2010 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
its quite possible that he lived the first time round. ressurection? kind of unlikely.


Of course it's possible. But it's also highly unlikely.

Anyways, let's not turn this into a religious discussion.


Posted by idoru on Apr-19-2010 22:24:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
Or...maybe it's improbable simply because Jesus' existance is itself, improbable.


Jesus as a human being is highly probable and, I'd say, more than likely. Jesus as a higher being or the son of God, rather, is improbable. Sort of like how Earth never flooded, but rather the story was based off of a massive flooding of The Nile. Ya know?


Posted by MGT on Apr-19-2010 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by leph555
I bet he was a real asshole in his time


Speak for yourself. A person who takes pride in being a real asshole is a person who deserves to get fucked by dicks. /end


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-19-2010 23:05:

Youd think that being a member of a cult would engender ever-lasting happiness wouldn�t you?


Posted by leph555 on Apr-19-2010 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by MGT
Speak for yourself. A person who takes pride in being a real asshole is a person who deserves to get fucked by dicks. /end


wut?

I guess Jake is also an asshole for loving the cock?


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-19-2010 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Youd think that being a member of a cult would engender ever-lasting happiness wouldn�t you?


Having read a lot about malignant cults, I will tell you, that's not the case. Glassy eyes are the result of malnutrition and the smile is a combination of hypoxia, denial, depression, and a reinforcement of the belief that if you aren't smiling, you're the weak link who's just not getting it.


Posted by Lews on Apr-19-2010 23:24:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Jesus as a human being is highly probable and, I'd say, more than likely. Jesus as a higher being or the son of God, rather, is improbable. Sort of like how Earth never flooded, but rather the story was based off of a massive flooding of The Nile. Ya know?


This.


Posted by Lira on Apr-19-2010 23:25:

quote:
Originally posted by MGT
On a similar subject of Catholics being outraged, there's a documentary about Jesus being a Buddhist:

Which is as exaggerated as claiming "Jesus was a cynic". Given the ideas popular around his time, it's safe to say he was influenced by Buddhist concepts to certain extent, that he was more likely influenced by Greek cynicism but that, at heart, he couldn't go 100% against Judaism, so he's - at best - a Cynical "Juddhist", whose teachings were later hijacked by platonists.

No true Buddhist would ever care for the idea of a God.

ps.: Keep in mind cynicism in this context does not mean what it means today.


Posted by idoru on Apr-20-2010 00:12:

I love Lira.


Posted by igottaknow on Apr-20-2010 00:24:

At first he was like



but then he was like


Posted by Lira on Apr-20-2010 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
I love Lira.

I love you too!


But, pssst, I'm shy!


Posted by aNYthing on Apr-20-2010 02:57:

Q: What's the difference between Jesus and a picture of Jesus?

A: it only takes one nail to hang a picture of Jesus


Posted by aNYthing on Apr-20-2010 02:59:

What does "INRI" inscribed above crussifix mean?

"I'm Nailed Right In"


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