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[Breaktrance] Subtara - Quantizum Solace (Original Mix) 320 FULL

Ok, so been working on this tune a bit lately, a bit different to what id normally do.
So im gonna let it rest for some time and id like some input what you would work on in this track, as its not done yet.

Its suppose to be some sort of breaktrance.

Here is the link:

http://www.subtleinc.net/subtara_-_quantizum_solace.mp3

Re: [Breaktrance] Subtara - Quantizum Solace (Original Mix) 320 FULL

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Originally posted by Subtle ...some sort of breaktrance.

Damn it, Subtle!

I'M the one who's into breaktrance, around here. NOT YOU. You stay out of MY genre.










I'll check it out when I'm done breaking hip-hop for the evening.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Damn it, Subtle! I'M the one who's into breaktrance, around here. NOT YOU. You stay out of MY genre.

Yeah i think i may have gotten the idea from you as well.

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Originally posted by Subtle Yeah i think i may have gotten the idea from you as well.

Listening, now.

Definitely have the funky-beats, thing down. Very, very trippy. I like how you keep messing with the acoustic space. It has a very progressive feel.

First suggestion: After that slow arpeggiated lead comes in, I was wanting something more. It could be my own preference and if you're happy with the way it is, don't change it, but, to me, it felt like there was empty space, there. It should be something that's being hinted about, before hand, that almost expands its role in the mix as it unfolds, into the music.

Second suggestion: Again, could be a preference of mine and... yada, yada... Anyway, finesse the filter sweeps on the instruments. Do this only after you do anything else to the tune. If this particular suggestion dove-tails with the first, it's that those sweeps, where the instruments seem to be muted, feel like there making space for something which isn't there, yet.

Regardless, if you were to tell me that you'd tricked me and that it was a complete tune and you just wanted to see if anyone would notice its perfection, I'd probably take you at your word. As it is, it really is a nice little piece I could stand to listen to in my spare time. There's a lot of really cool ideas you have that push the envelope, in-so-far as technique is concerned along with the way they seem to be blended, seamlessly.

Nice job. Looking forward to the finished product.

This sounds quite nice. I like the drums in particular.

However, I agree with Eddie about the empty space. Maybe the main synth takes up a bit too much space, therefore making it hard to introduce new sounds.

The synths on their own are very nice, though. I definitely enjoyed this one. FWIW, I could imagine some scracthing working nicely here.

Good job. I've enjoyed your previous music, too!

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Listening, now. Definitely have the funky-beats, thing down. Very, very trippy. I like how you keep messing with the acoustic space. It has a very progressive feel. First suggestion: After that slow arpeggiated lead comes in, I was wanting something more. It could be my own preference and if you're happy with the way it is, don't change it, but, to me, it felt like there was empty space, there. It should be something that's being hinted about, before hand, that almost expands its role in the mix as it unfolds, into the music. Second suggestion: Again, could be a preference of mine and... yada, yada... Anyway, finesse the filter sweeps on the instruments. Do this only after you do anything else to the tune. If this particular suggestion dove-tails with the first, it's that those sweeps, where the instruments seem to be muted, feel like there making space for something which isn't there, yet. Regardless, if you were to tell me that you'd tricked me and that it was a complete tune and you just wanted to see if anyone would notice its perfection, I'd probably take you at your word. As it is, it really is a nice little piece I could stand to listen to in my spare time. There's a lot of really cool ideas you have that push the envelope, in-so-far as technique is concerned along with the way they seem to be blended, seamlessly. Nice job. Looking forward to the finished product.

Thanks for the comment, Eddie.. yeah i understand what you mean there should be something more with the lead sound there, though i have yet to figure out what that is since ive done several efforts already hehe.

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Originally posted by Owsey2008 This sounds quite nice. I like the drums in particular. However, I agree with Eddie about the empty space. Maybe the main synth takes up a bit too much space, therefore making it hard to introduce new sounds. The synths on their own are very nice, though. I definitely enjoyed this one. FWIW, I could imagine some scracthing working nicely here. Good job. I've enjoyed your previous music, too!

Thanks for the comment, yeah prolly needa work a bit on that lead sound for sure.

Im happy you are positive about the drums, since they are kind of simple layered but yeah i like how they sound.

this sounds great, is the bass analog?i know a label that might be interested in this sound teehee

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Originally posted by msz this sounds great, is the bass analog?i know a label that might be interested in this sound teehee

It is actually, nice catch.

Very nice and atmospheric. Cool drums. Sounds very Sasha/Involver-ish... good work!

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Originally posted by Katella Very nice and atmospheric. Cool drums. Sounds very Sasha/Involver-ish... good work!

Thanks! I like that comparison.

hmm, i like this and i there is alot of potential in this. i draw alot of connections of this to orbital and the hardkiss sound. i really like the rhythm and how you cut up that breakbeat. it's bold to use an element that it more aligned with uk broken beat sound than trance, and even trancy breaks.

the production is great, you have a grip on your sounds and the bassline is packing punch. i think the speed, the track just sounds too melodic at 100 bpm, but it does grow on you. but i would play this in a set, i would pitch it up to 125-135 and it sounds great at that speed aswell.

ye, other than that, i do like it alot. one final thing, i know this is wrong to rag on but the title is terrible.


edit, you should have a go at making a dubstep version of this. slow the track down to 70 bpm, strip the track a bit and reshape it, beef the drums a bit and boost the bass alot, and you have yourself something interesting. i slowed it down in traktor and mixed it with some other tracks and it sounded nice.

As always, top notch stuff going on there. I feel that the lead might just be a touch too loud in comparison to the rest of the track i.e. a little bit too overwhelming.

As far as genres go, this would be ambient breakbeat. Already exists I'm afraid.. he he.

Great track, thanks for sharing.

cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by montana hmm, i like this and i there is alot of potential in this. i draw alot of connections of this to orbital and the hardkiss sound. i really like the rhythm and how you cut up that breakbeat. it's bold to use an element that it more aligned with uk broken beat sound than trance, and even trancy breaks.

I like that you like it, i have thrown all rules out of the window now, everything goes as long as its dark and melodic. Dark electronic music.

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Originally posted by montana the production is great, you have a grip on your sounds and the bassline is packing punch. i think the speed, the track just sounds too melodic at 100 bpm, but it does grow on you. but i would play this in a set, i would pitch it up to 125-135 and it sounds great at that speed aswell. ye, other than that, i do like it alot. one final thing, i know this is wrong to rag on but the title is terrible. edit, you should have a go at making a dubstep version of this. slow the track down to 70 bpm, strip the track a bit and reshape it, beef the drums a bit and boost the bass alot, and you have yourself something interesting. i slowed it down in traktor and mixed it with some other tracks and it sounded nice.

Tried pitching the track at various pitches and at 120-130 it sounds like it could have been a good club track if i where to change all of channels without timestretching. Might try that, a bit loose quality when pitched i think.

If i take it down to 70-80 it gives a whole different feel again, more laidback, it could have sounded really nice there as well if worked a bit more on the drums there.
I wasnt aware that changing the tempo would give such various feels.

The name is one of my inventions, it doesnt mean anything at all, i thought it was pretty cool, might change the last name though.

Thanks for listening, much appreciated.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 As always, top notch stuff going on there. I feel that the lead might just be a touch too loud in comparison to the rest of the track i.e. a little bit too overwhelming. As far as genres go, this would be ambient breakbeat. Already exists I'm afraid.. he he. Great track, thanks for sharing. cheers Nem

Yeah i need to do some changes on that lead. What im not entirely sure of at the moment is how much work it really needs.. its clearly not that tight of a production by todays standard, so the question im asking myself is.. does it need to be ?
Because i think a lot of old music still sounds good today, or maybe im just making an excuse for being lazy.
Thanks for listening!

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Originally posted by Subtle Yeah i need to do some changes on that lead. What im not entirely sure of at the moment is how much work it really needs.. its clearly not that tight of a production by todays standard, so the question im asking myself is.. does it need to be ?

I really liked the lead, myself. On first listen before reading all this it didn't sound abrupt or out of place so that's what I'm going with. Percs sound very crisp and polished too. Enjoyed the dark ambience of this track very much, perfect for a lazy sunday morning - many thanks for sharing

Hey subtle,

nice to see youre still making them kickass tunes

good feel of the beat overall, it feels pretty natural and unprocessed compared to all the breaks and DnB stuff I heard recently. And believe me when I say that is not a bad thing at all.

that low synth might at 1.40 might have a harsh frequency.

the melody is quite repetitive but not a problem for me at all. It has a different groove than the beat which makes things interesting, you can shift your focus from one to the other, gives depth.

good job. peace

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