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Posted by cammaxwell on May-02-2010 01:47:

Adam A8X Monitors - Opinions?

I just decided to sell my KRK VXT6's and replace them with something a little bigger like 8's. The reason for this is I want to be able to hear the lower frequencies while mixing, especially the sub bass.

I've really been considering the Adam A8X's and wanted to know if anyone is using them and get their feedback? I was also considering the Yamaha HS80's, but after listening to both they both sound great and I like the lower frequency response of the Adam's if that's all the difference. Although knowing that my ear isn't as tuned as well as most of you assume, thought i would get your opinions.

Thanks!

Posted by cammaxwell on May-02-2010 02:13:

EDIT: When I say the lower frequency response is better with the Adam's, I mean on paper...

Posted by cammaxwell on May-02-2010 03:13:

Sorry guys......I just realized there brand new and I'm not sure if we even have them in North America yet...

Posted by Zak McKracken on May-02-2010 09:34:

to me the A7 seems to be a better choise. an 8 inch bassdriver will usualy drown some of the important midrange. a 6,5 / 7 " would be better imo. depends on how big your room is though.

Posted by cammaxwell on May-02-2010 16:56:

quote:
Originally posted by 19503
to me the A7 seems to be a better choise. an 8 inch bassdriver will usualy drown some of the important midrange. a 6,5 / 7 " would be better imo. depends on how big your room is though.

Yeah, the ones I heard were actually the A7's I realized but the guy was talking about the new ones coming I guess.

My dilemma now is that my KRK were sold within 30 minutes of me texting some peeps, and they're picking them up today. I'll need to get something ASAP now and don't think I can wait for new A8X's.

I'm now considering the A7's or even the HS80's with a sub, but have reservations about mixing with a sub. Anyone have some experience there?

Posted by Zak McKracken on May-02-2010 17:23:

use headphones and save?

Posted by music2dance2 on May-02-2010 18:17:

Cam whats in your studio setup mate? And how long you been producing now?

Posted by Zombie0729 on May-02-2010 18:32:

i own the A7's and for the price i don't think they can be beat. the top end is crystal clear, CRYSTAL clear. the low end will totally depend on your room, i have a 8x14 room and it's taken some treatment for me to get use to them. on my desk the sweet spot is about 3.5 ft from the monitor and the low end is clear just again, depends on acoustics since the low travels funny depending on room size/positioning etc.

Posted by cammaxwell on May-02-2010 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by music2dance2
Cam whats in your studio setup mate? And how long you been producing now?

I'm running Logic and I'm all software, and have only been at this for maybe a year or so. I'm definitely getting there quickly and have a couple tracks and remixes done with some other guys that will be released soon. The only reason I want larger monitors is when I was working in another studio we had a really good kick/bassline going on a track we were working on, but that sub bass didn't transfer to my setup. I found it really hard to build on that mix, and that studio was in Vancouver where I only play every three months. I have a little bit of disposable cash right now to put into larger monitors so thought I would do it and get the lower frequency response.

My room is about 10' x 12' with 10' ceilings. I know my ears are not at the point of knowing or hearing the difference of high end monitors, I can just go by what sounds good. That's why I'm looking for some feedback from some experienced guys on here.

I'm now considering the Yamaha HS80's (with or without a sub) and also the Event Precision 8's. I'm going to go listen do them again tomorrow night and hopefully grab a pair. I'm open to any other suggestions as well as to what I should consider. I'm open to spending up to around $2000 for the pair.

Thanks!

Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on May-02-2010 23:37:

quote:
Originally posted by cammaxwell
I'm running Logic and I'm all software, and have only been at this for maybe a year or so. I'm definitely getting there quickly and have a couple tracks and remixes done with some other guys that will be released soon. The only reason I want larger monitors is when I was working in another studio we had a really good kick/bassline going on a track we were working on, but that sub bass didn't transfer to my setup. I found it really hard to build on that mix, and that studio was in Vancouver where I only play every three months. I have a little bit of disposable cash right now to put into larger monitors so thought I would do it and get the lower frequency response.

My room is about 10' x 12' with 10' ceilings. I know my ears are not at the point of knowing or hearing the difference of high end monitors, I can just go by what sounds good. That's why I'm looking for some feedback from some experienced guys on here.

I'm now considering the Yamaha HS80's (with or without a sub) and also the Event Precision 8's. I'm going to go listen do them again tomorrow night and hopefully grab a pair. I'm open to any other suggestions as well as to what I should consider. I'm open to spending up to around $2000 for the pair.

Thanks!

What about Genelecs or Fostex?

Posted by DJ RANN on May-03-2010 01:15:

I personally find adams too bright - yes the top end is really clear but the low is pale in comparison.

Get the HS80's. For where you are now (and then some) they are best option and great monitors.

Posted by cammaxwell on May-03-2010 02:08:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
I personally find adams too bright - yes the top end is really clear but the low is pale in comparison.

Get the HS80's. For where you are now (and then some) they are best option and great monitors.

Thanks for the advice, much appreciated. So what are your thoughts about adding a sub as well? I've never used a sub before and I'm not sure how good that type of setup will be?

Posted by DJ RANN on May-03-2010 02:48:

quote:
Originally posted by cammaxwell
Thanks for the advice, much appreciated. So what are your thoughts about adding a sub as well? I've never used a sub before and I'm not sure how good that type of setup will be?

Don't do it.

The HS80's have more than enough bass. You also mix in stereo so why would you need the extra bass channel. Because there is no standard when it comes to sub crossovers you could get a different balance based on what combo you use. There's a ton of reasons why not and without going in to all of them it's just not really needed with the HS80's.

Posted by cammaxwell on May-03-2010 02:57:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Don't do it.

The HS80's have more than enough bass. You also mix in stereo so why would you need the extra bass channel. Because there is no standard when it comes to sub crossovers you could get a different balance based on what combo you use. There's a ton of reasons why not and without going in to all of them it's just not really needed with the HS80's.

Cheers!

Posted by Zak McKracken on May-03-2010 10:24:

a sub is hard to get to sound right, and the hs80 should have enough bass for your room-size. start with the monitors first and let them play for atleast 100 hours before u decide on a sub. personally u dont need it.

Posted by evo8 on May-03-2010 12:28:

Posted by rulzz on May-03-2010 21:35:

there is a nice pair of HS-80s on kijiji in toronto area right now

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-...QAdIdZ202564742

Posted by cammaxwell on May-03-2010 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by rulzz
there is a nice pair of HS-80s on kijiji in toronto area right now

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-...QAdIdZ202564742

Yeah I saw that, but they were selling for the $40 less than a new pair. I actually just got back from the shop and ended up buying the KRK VXT8's instead. They sounded the best to me, maybe because I was so used to the 6's, but the Yamaha's sounded the worst actually. Didn't like the low end at all.

Posted by DJ RANN on May-03-2010 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by cammaxwell
Yeah I saw that, but they were selling for the $40 less than a new pair. I actually just got back from the shop and ended up buying the KRK VXT8's instead. They sounded the best to me, maybe because I was so used to the 6's, but the Yamaha's sounded the worst actually. Didn't like the low end at all.

Noooooooooo! Take those heathen devices back from whence they came. IMO the HS80's are better for monitoring.

In fairness it's all about personal taste but in the extended shootout I did (there's a thread on here) all the KRK's came out bad, and I especially didn't like the little shitty 5" ones. The main thing is that you feel comfortable with them but my advice is to make sure you're 100% happy before the standard returns period expires.

Play your reference tracks on them and keep them perfect just in case you change your mind.

Posted by EddieZilker on May-03-2010 23:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN

BTW, DJ RANN. I remember a thread you started a while back where you were doing comparisons of monitors. Could you kindly point me in that direction. I believe, the last time I posted that I was planning on getting the HR824 MkII's and you warned me against that saying that if I was hellbent on Mackie, the 624's were a better deal - if that jogs your memory.

Posted by DJ RANN on May-03-2010 23:30:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker

BTW, DJ RANN. I remember a thread you started a while back where you were doing comparisons of monitors. Could you kindly point me in that direction. I believe, the last time I posted that I was planning on getting the HR824 MkII's and you warned me against that saying that if I was hellbent on Mackie, the 624's were a better deal - if that jogs your memory.

Lololol.

Here's one thread that has a lot of good discussion:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...d=&pagenumber=1

And here's the monitor test post I did (it was in the htread we were chatting about the HR828's etc.):

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...d=&pagenumber=5

Posted by Beatflux on May-03-2010 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
10 x 12 x 10 - thats almost square so be prepared to shell out from some bass traps if you want to get the most out of a new set of monitors... adding a sub now would only make things worse

Damn fucking right...

I stood in one of the corners of my bedroom and said, "So that's where the bass went!"

Posted by cammaxwell on May-04-2010 02:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Noooooooooo! Take those heathen devices back from whence they came. IMO the HS80's are better for monitoring.

In fairness it's all about personal taste but in the extended shootout I did (there's a thread on here) all the KRK's came out bad, and I especially didn't like the little shitty 5" ones. The main thing is that you feel comfortable with them but my advice is to make sure you're 100% happy before the standard returns period expires.

Play your reference tracks on them and keep them perfect just in case you change your mind.

damn it!!!!! lol.......now I'm confused again!!!! lol

I'm going to play around with them a bit and read your write up. Maybe I was drawn to them because they sound so familiar. The HS80's just didn't sound like the low end was clear to ke though? Although I know my ears aren't as skilled at that yet. The Yamaha's are half the price too so it would have been great.

Still deciding I guess.....

Posted by cammaxwell on May-04-2010 02:47:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
10 x 12 x 10 - thats almost square so be prepared to shell out from some bass traps if you want to get the most out of a new set of monitors... adding a sub now would only make things worse

Yeah, well my room isn't square actually. The back right corner has the door on a angle and front right corner comes in a couple of feet where the duct work is.

And to complicate things even FURTHER, come Sept there's going to be a crib in here too!!!!

Posted by cammaxwell on May-05-2010 01:03:

Ok. I went back and got the HS80's and they do sound good in here. Different, but good. After reading a bunch of reviews on the KRK VXT8's I think I liked the sound because I was used to the 6s but also because they apparently do sound like a high end stereo speaker. Im glad I ended up with the Yamaha's, thanks for everyone's opinions!

With the money I saved I got a pair of AKG 702's as well, now I can mix while my pregnant girl sleeps. I'm sure this will come in handy when the baby is hear too!!!

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