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Posted by dj_nomiz on Jul-18-2002 07:28:

vinyl burner

is there such thing as a burner that could burn cd's/mp3's onto blank vinyl's and vice versa... if there is it would be real sweet

Posted by jdat on Jul-18-2002 07:31:

it's going to be extremely expensive + wear fast cause it'll be a dubplate ( acetate ) won't be able to play it after a certain number of plays ( varies with the quality of the dubplate,, ranging from 30 to 100 if you're lucky ) cause it wears out

the price is like 40 bucks, well depending on were you go

try to contact the people at vinylium.ch they do great service

Posted by b i n k u n on Jul-18-2002 12:08:

think u asking about a vinyl cutter?...vestax makes one:

http://www.vestax.com/products/vrx2000.htm

it's mad expensive tho...another company makes one too, but i forget the name.

Posted by Dj Thy on Jul-18-2002 12:22:

Kingston, part of Stanton Magnetics.

To be honest, if you're an individual, don't spend money on those things, you'll lose big way. If you want to press vinyls, go to a pressing plant and ask there. It's already expensive enough.
The only way I can think of a useful (read profitable) usage, is if you own a music shop. You could set up a vinyl cutting service for guys that want to press their demo's on vinyl for a small price.

Posted by jdat on Jul-19-2002 02:54:

check this out and die when you'll see the prices :
http://www.recordpressing.com/specials.htm

Posted by DJ Chrono on Jul-19-2002 03:42:

around here it costs about $1,800 (including 15% tax in canada...) to press 500 records.

take a look at http://www.mp3vinyl.com if you want 1 or 2 dubplates made.

Posted by P`zazz on Jul-19-2002 09:58:

?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

There are websites on the web pressing and selling vinyl? I though this was illegal? Anyway, even if you had a vinyl cutter and you pressed your mp3s quality would not be as good as the original vinyl.

Posted by jdat on Jul-19-2002 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by P`zazz
?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

There are websites on the web pressing and selling vinyl? I though this was illegal? Anyway, even if you had a vinyl cutter and you pressed your mp3s quality would not be as good as the original vinyl.

no offense but that comment there was pretty stupid!
off course it's legal!
well yes and no ....
if you as a dj are going to press 500 copies of a track I doubt you're gonna do a copy of something you didn't produce then again , but then again don't forget there's all these white label bootlegs ( and no white label does not equal bootleg ) .....

pressing vinyls is totally legal ..... well maybe I didn't understand what your point was .... but none the less it is legal!

concerning your remark of pressing a vinyl off an mp3; where I think your whole comment is based on; that would be the most stupid thing to do when you see the price of cutting a dubplate or pressing one ( which is non sense cause you'd have to get the mold done for 100+ dollars easy + the cost of pressing )

it appears that htfr for uk sells copies and that they suck ....

Posted by P`zazz on Jul-19-2002 17:46:

Actually I didn't know they where only selling in huge quantities, I thought you could order a single record. Well I guess it makes sense now. About the second point, I'm talking about the vinyl cutter that vestax produced, anyone can buy it and cut vinyl off his mp3s.

Posted by MekTek on Jul-19-2002 18:55:

i couldn't find a price for the vestex unit. mebbe i'm blind? anyone find it?

Posted by P`zazz on Jul-19-2002 19:20:

yep I know, I can't find the price either but someone told me it's gonna be ~$2000

not 100% sure though

Posted by MekTek on Jul-19-2002 19:23:

thats it? shit, put me down for one right now then! eh make that two, jut in case! lol

Posted by jdat on Jul-19-2002 19:42:

quote:
Actually I didn't know they where only selling in huge quantities, I thought you could order a single record. Well I guess it makes sense now.

duplate cutting has existed since the beginning of vinyl
and duplate is what you need .... on my site it's 80 bucks I think ... that's expensive I know

just find people who cut dubs and ask them how to get the equipement ......

I'm sure if you go to jamaica you can get one machine for cheap

seriously dubs are the thing the most used by sound systems and well ... I don't know do your research ... if your in a big city that shouldn't be to hard ... the key is making contacts somewhere along the way otherwise you're screwed into spending huge amounts of money

the reason why it would cost thousands that's for a PRESSED, not cut vinyl..... pressing involves a mold = the biggest cost in the process , vinyls are cheap but the mold adds on to the cost.....
dubs are only blank vinyl cut with a needle .... nothing to complicated ....

concerning the kingston and the vestax cutter these two companies are acting like morons cause the stuff should have been released for a long time but it's not yet the case ... there obviously has to be a problem somewhere along the way .... I'll have to email them and ask .

the difference with the stuff they want to come out with is that they don't plan on making a dubplate cutter, but something that permits you to cut vinyl and actually have it last a long long time.... nice and superior process

if anyone has a link to where we can buy the machines TELL ME

Posted by Milhouse on Jul-19-2002 20:03:

I've read about this at numerous other places... the general consensus seems to be that the vestax cutter is about $10,000 USD but that includes a day trainging on how to use it... dunno about you guys but that's outta my price range... I've never looked into it, this was just a number that I've seen repeated on a few other boards so I'm taking it as correct seeing as how I've seen it more than once... but I may be out in leftfield...

Posted by MekTek on Jul-19-2002 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Milhouse
I've read about this at numerous other places... the general consensus seems to be that the vestax cutter is about $10,000 USD but that includes a day trainging on how to use it... dunno about you guys but that's outta my price range... I've never looked into it, this was just a number that I've seen repeated on a few other boards so I'm taking it as correct seeing as how I've seen it more than once... but I may be out in leftfield...

that's what i thought they were...around the 10-15g's range. no way in hell i can afford that but at 2g's, i would JUMP at it.

Posted by dj_nomiz on Jul-20-2002 03:15:

i'd jump @ it, if someone gave it 2 me for free... *sigh, when will that ever happen

Posted by jdat on Jul-23-2002 14:55:

got it!

great I found where I can buy it!

http://www.pssl.com/bitemdetail.tpl...002072307362545

price list is 10 000 $

I wonder what's the cost of the blank vinyls

Posted by DJ Chrono on Jul-23-2002 16:07:

the cost of a blank vinyl is about the same as a regular one you'd buy in the store.. so about $15 CND

you can buy it here aswell..

http://www.djgear.com/urecords/prod...T1KRP3QWBW2BPB8

Posted by jdat on Jul-23-2002 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono
the cost of a blank vinyl is about the same as a regular one you'd buy in the store.. so about $15 CND

you can buy it here aswell..

http://www.djgear.com/urecords/prod...T1KRP3QWBW2BPB8

hummm I can't seem to find blank vinyl anywhere?
you also got a link for that?

Posted by DJ Chrono on Jul-23-2002 22:52:

nope, I heard them say that in a video interview somewhere.. I don't remember the link. I've never actually seen the blank records for sale either.

Posted by kr00t0n on Jul-23-2002 23:12:

I can get 700 vinyls pressed for �700 and thats a pretty sweet deal.
I'll have to wiat til I made tracks that are worthy of that much money tho

Posted by P`zazz on Jul-23-2002 23:13:

Actually I have the vestax liflet and it has the blank vinyls. It says that the cutter is only good with the vestax blanks which you can order from the vestax factory.