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is the 65 year fluke over?

Can you euro-fags get back to doing what you do best, killing each other on levels not seen anywhere else ever?

Nou, you know I like you... however, I can't help but roll my eyes at this

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Originally posted by Lira Nou, you know I like you... however, I can't help but roll my eyes at this

lol, seriously though, look at Europe, look at their history. The last 65 years is a fluke in terms of the thousands of years before it... and now we have Greece ready to basically disolve the entire EU, at least the Euro... Its not looking very healthy at all there... Germans are down right rabid at the Greeks right now, there was some BBC report from the sother rhine country where they were describing ALL GREEKS as "cheats, thieves, tax-dodgers" and telling them to get out of Germany and that Germany shouldn't help the greeks because they are thieves!

Crises happen. It's simple as that. No big project such as the Eurozone is expected to happen without some turbulence every now and then.

It'd be stupid to throw it all up in the air just like that. I can even find a word to say how detached from reality you must be to even hope for a war in this scenario...

... or in most scenarios, for that matter.

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Originally posted by Lira Crises happen. It's as simple as that. No big project such as the Eurozone is expected to happen without some turbulence every now and then. It'd be stupid to throw it all up in the air just like that. I can even find a word to say how detached from reality you must be to even hope for a war in this scenario... ... or in most scenarios, for that matter.

I think the eurozone is totally flawed and half-assed. They want their cake and eat it too.

You have very proud nations that want to remain sovereign, but then they have the EU body that wants to some how dominate them, but really cant because of the former statement... Its shit.

They also let in everyone and anyone in an early run up I think fueled by old people that still had the cold war/NATO mentality of more is more is more and we need it because someone else (not Russia though) will get it. So they let in shit countries like Greece.

If Greece was out of the EU, not on the Euro, it'd be a Greek problem. Now its a Euro problem, for everyone in the EU and pretty much everyone on the continent, EU or not.

Its a bad bad bad idea and its more quickly rearing its head than I think a lot of people thought.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I think the eurozone is totally flawed and half-assed. They want their cake and eat it too. You have very proud nations that want to remain sovereign, but then they have the EU body that wants to some how dominate them, but really cant because of the former statement... Its shit. They also let in everyone and anyone in an early run up I think fueled by old people that still had the cold war/NATO mentality of more is more is more and we need it because someone else (not Russia though) will get it. So they let in shit countries like Greece. If Greece was out of the EU, not on the Euro, it'd be a Greek problem. Now its a Euro problem, for everyone in the EU and pretty much everyone on the continent, EU or not. Its a bad bad bad idea and its more quickly rearing its head than I think a lot of people thought.

Greece has been part of the European Union for nearly 30 years, so it's not nearly a newcomer (not to mention the fact that it is hardly a "shitty country"), and it doesn't justify your craving for more wars in the old world.

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Originally posted by Lira the fact that it is hardly a "shitty country"

Define shitty country.

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Originally posted by MGT Define shitty country.

He's the one that came up with the term and it's up to him to define that but, whatever it is, I can hardly believe that a country that has a high human development index, a low gini coefficient, and which is among the top 20-30 when it comes to its GDP (PPP) per capita (so the money isn't all in the hands of a small group of people) is a "shit(ty) country".

Should that be the case, the world would smell a lot worse than it does

Clearly he's bored of playing WWII video games & wants new content.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby If Greece was out of the EU, not on the Euro, it'd be a Greek problem. Now its a Euro problem, for everyone in the EU and pretty much everyone on the continent, EU or not.

Greece not being able to meet its debt obligations is a problem for other countries, regardless which currency Greece is using.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Greece not being able to meet its debt obligations is a problem for other countries, regardless which currency Greece is using.

True, but that wouldn't be as huge a deal if they werent part of the Euro zone.

Lira, the EU has only been around 17 years.

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Originally posted by couch-potato Clearly he's bored of playing WWII video games & wants new content.

WWII video games are boring, have been for a long time. ArmA2 came from the original game Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis.


Cold War ftw. So much simpler.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Lira, the EU has only been around 17 years.

Yeah, but it developed out of the European Coal and Steel Community (ECSC) that was founded in 1951. Greece joined the European Community 20 years later.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Cold War ftw. So much simpler.

Ugh.

It is probably the end of EU/eurozone as we know it, as it's now clear that some of the countries can't afford such a strong currency. The whole western world has lived beyond its means for a few decades, and what we're seeing is a collapse of that lifestyle. It is a continuation of the financial crisis that began in USA two years ago. The difference is that whole countries are bankrupt now, and Greece is first to go simply because corruption and irresponsible spending was most excessive there. Other countries will follow, and if EU falls apart, it will probably negatively affect USA as well.

However, I don't see this turning into a global war. We may see civil unrest comparable to what's happening in Athens right now, but nothing much more serious (I hope). There certainly will be pretty big economic, political changes, though.

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Originally posted by GoSpeedGo! [Big bag of "duh"]

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Originally posted by GoSpeedGo! It is probably the end of EU/eurozone as we know it, as it's now clear that some of the countries can't afford such a strong currency. The whole western world has lived beyond its means for a few decades, and what we're seeing is a collapse of that lifestyle. It is a continuation of the financial crisis that began in USA two years ago. The difference is that whole countries are bankrupt now, and Greece is first to go simply because corruption and irresponsible spending was most excessive there. Other countries will follow, and if EU falls apart, it will probably negatively affect USA as well.

exaggerate much?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN exaggerate much?

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!! OMG PANIC!!!!

Yeah, because America has totally been immune from financial problems hasn't it, cliffwad? Sub Prime? That's just another KFC special I'm sure. If we hadn't put money into shitty american schemes, we might not be quite as bad off as we are, but we are and we'll deal with it in whatever way is necessary. You really don't have much clue about the eurozone though.

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Originally posted by couch-potato Clearly he's bored of playing WWII video games & wants new content.

Seriously, I claim license fees or something. WW2 accounts for like 50% of all video game content. Without the Nazis the whole gaming industry would be dead. And people still say they were evil and did nothing good, pah!!!

PS: And who makes the most money from these games? Who controls the whole scheme? Right, the Jews! Take that as a mindfuck!

PPS: Nou, stop making an idiot out of yourself.

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Originally posted by Ian You really don't have much clue about the eurozone though.

Or many other things for that matter.

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Originally posted by Meat187 PS: And who makes the most money from these games? Who controls the whole scheme? Right, the Jews! Take that as a mindfuck!

lol Nou, finish high school before you start discussing eurozone:]]

so, the balkan wars in the 90s didn't happen? thats new.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby ArmA2 came from the original game Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis

What a shitty game that was. I hope to Christ you updated the physics engine.

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