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Posted by ne1seenmykeys on Jul-18-2002 20:07:

I know nothing about amps....do you???

OK, so here's the deal. I live in an apartment complex, and there are times when I can shake the room if need be, but for the most part I don't have the need for the full power these things (JBL monitors) can put out.

SO, is there an amp that you can suggest I buy? I don't have a home stereo center (I rely on my computer for mp3's, etc). I am looking for something cheap. I don't need any "save up to buy the (insert newest, best amp here)" responses. SOmething cheap that will give plenty of power to my speakers if need be. I know absolutely NOTHING about amps, so anything would be appreciated. Thanks

P.S. Remeber, the key word here is affordable Maybe $200-250 ????


Posted by MekTek on Jul-18-2002 20:51:

here's a couple to check out, at that price range:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...l/base_id/57829

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...l/base_id/57830

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...l/base_id/54743

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...l/base_id/56831

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...l/base_id/43890

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...l/base_id/43891

i'd probably go for the crown 300 watt one.. of course it all depends on your needs. hope that helps.


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Jul-18-2002 22:34:

wow that crown amp is a good deal... crown makes good amps but i bet you can find the same amp even cheaper from another site, look around!

id have to say you are right, of those the crown would be my choice too! didnt realize crown made such an affordable amp.. now im tempted to get one ...

-mer


Posted by ne1seenmykeys on Jul-19-2002 03:43:

quote:
Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2

didnt realize crown made such an affordable amp.. now im tempted to get one ...

-mer


well, if you were tempted b4, then check this out. I went to www.123dj.com (I know they haven't gotten the best track record ever, but still) and you have to "e-mail them for the super-low price they can't put on their site" and the same amp is $229. I might just go ahead and get it. The speakers will be ariving anyday, so it would be nice to have this shit set up ASAP.


Posted by DJ Chrono on Jul-19-2002 04:00:

hmm.. I got a 400 watt kenwood amp from futureshop for $250 CND.


Posted by Sinonick on Jul-19-2002 13:18:

does this "futureshop" own a web site? i'd like to see that kenwood one


Posted by amdmaxx on Jul-19-2002 13:46:

What kind of speakers did u get?
I seen Ce-400 by Crown for $999 and Ce-2000 for $500-600..

quote:
Originally posted by ne1seenmykeys


well, if you were tempted b4, then check this out. I went to www.123dj.com (I know they haven't gotten the best track record ever, but still) and you have to "e-mail them for the super-low price they can't put on their site" and the same amp is $229. I might just go ahead and get it. The speakers will be ariving anyday, so it would be nice to have this shit set up ASAP.


Posted by ne1seenmykeys on Jul-19-2002 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by amdmaxx
What kind of speakers did u get?
I seen Ce-400 by Crown for $999 and Ce-2000 for $500-600..



JBL S38II studio monitors. I went and tested these bad boys out, and holy shit...they rock.

DJ Chrono - Thanks for the input on that Kenwood amp, but I don't really need 400 watts. Thanks though, seriouslly. 300, at the max, is all I'm gonna need. That's why I think I'll go with the Crown. I might get on www.ebay.com to see if I can get a better price than the $229 I got on 123dj.com


Posted by DJ Chrono on Jul-19-2002 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Sinonick
does this "futureshop" own a web site? i'd like to see that kenwood one


yes, futureshop is a huge chain of stores here in canada and the US.

You can check there site here:
http://www.futureshop.ca

but my amp is not listed on there site anymore for some reason..
it is also a dolby surround sound amp, so the watt's are obviously less per channel


Posted by Sinonick on Jul-19-2002 16:12:

hey thnx, hope i'll find it useful


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Jul-19-2002 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by ne1seenmykeys


JBL S38II studio monitors. I went and tested these bad boys out, and holy shit...they rock.

DJ Chrono - Thanks for the input on that Kenwood amp, but I don't really need 400 watts. Thanks though, seriouslly. 300, at the max, is all I'm gonna need. That's why I think I'll go with the Crown. I might get on www.ebay.com to see if I can get a better price than the $229 I got on 123dj.com


http://www.djtronix.com/crownxls202.html

ok.. i know the price there is $249, but the shipping is no charge - im sure the amp is kinda heavy... so if 123dj.com wants more than $20 to ship it, you'd do better at djtronix.com - i purchased a mixer from these guys and they had to back order it (the RM3S when it just came out) and they sent it to me 2nd day air at no charge (yup.. totally free) because of the wait from stanton. so i had a good experience with them...

good luck.. and let us know how ya like the XLS202

-mer


Posted by ne1seenmykeys on Jul-19-2002 17:17:

I'll do that Meridian, and I am going to look into getting the Crown from DJTronix now. Wow, this just gets better and better. I'm going to call 123dj.com and see what they say about the shipping


Posted by P`zazz on Jul-19-2002 17:58:

btw I dont know a lot about amps either and as I want to buy one as well, I have to get one that matches my speakers impedance, but how do I know what my speakers impedance is? I have no idea so is there any way of telling?


Posted by MekTek on Jul-19-2002 18:45:

yes it should say something like 2, 4 or 8 ohms (might be a lill ohm sign instead of the word) on the back of the speaker..it's usually placed close to where the jacks are on it.


Posted by amdmaxx on Jul-20-2002 02:27:

?????
please elaborate..
I know about the simbol, etc.. what happens when they dont match?
I thought u could adjust amp to go 1, 2, 4, 8, etc..


quote:
Originally posted by MekTek
yes it should say something like 2, 4 or 8 ohms (might be a lill ohm sign instead of the word) on the back of the speaker..it's usually placed close to where the jacks are on it.


Posted by ne1seenmykeys on Jul-24-2002 18:20:

quote:
Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2


http://www.djtronix.com/crownxls202.html

ok.. i know the price there is $249, but the shipping is no charge - im sure the amp is kinda heavy... so if 123dj.com wants more than $20 to ship it, you'd do better at djtronix.com - i purchased a mixer from these guys and they had to back order it (the RM3S when it just came out) and they sent it to me 2nd day air at no charge (yup.. totally free) because of the wait from stanton. so i had a good experience with them...

good luck.. and let us know how ya like the XLS202

-mer


Yo man, I thought I would let you and everyone else that has viewed this thread know that I got the Crown XLS-202 at www.musiccenterinc.com They have a price guarantee on all products that you find on the Internet, and not only do they match it, but they BEAT IT!!!! I found the Crown amp at www.123dj.com for $229 (it's "Blowout week" or whatever), so I called Music Center Inc's phone number and told them to beat that price, and he offered it to me for freaking $219.00. Not only that, but they are having a special where any order over $150 is free shipping through UPS. I'm telling you guys, you can't beat it with a stick. Go get 'em!!!!


Posted by jdat on Jul-24-2002 19:51:

quote:
Originally posted by ne1seenmykeys


Yo man, I thought I would let you and everyone else that has viewed this thread know that I got the Crown XLS-202 at www.musiccenterinc.com They have a price guarantee on all products that you find on the Internet, and not only do they match it, but they BEAT IT!!!! I found the Crown amp at www.123dj.com for $229 (it's "Blowout week" or whatever), so I called Music Center Inc's phone number and told them to beat that price, and he offered it to me for freaking $219.00. Not only that, but they are having a special where any order over $150 is free shipping through UPS. I'm telling you guys, you can't beat it with a stick. Go get 'em!!!!


No matter what place you go to , you can negociate!
That's a very common thing to do in the music equipement stores ...... now it doesn't garantie you'll get the equipement as cheap as you mentionned but it's always good to know that one not hesitate to negociate in music stores! It's common practice!


Posted by djskylz on Jul-27-2002 18:50:

The Story about the Ohms

Ohm is the value for the resistance of a speaker. You don't adjust your amp for it, if the resistance is lower your amp puts more power into your speakers. Compare it with cycling on an mountain: If you're cycling to the top, the resistance is quite high, so your speed will be low. If you're cycling downhill, the resistance is lower, so you will have a quite high speed. Your amps owners manual will show you the minimal resistance a speaker (or more speakers wired up parallel) needs to have. Your amps power supply can only deliver a certain amount of power, so if you have a really low resistance you could f*ck up your amp. The most amps can handle a 2 to 4 ohm load as minimum (the more expensive your amp, the lower minimum load). The JBL speaker would probobly have a resistance of 4 or 8 ohm, so you can wire them up to almost every amp. But be carefully when you use more speakers parallel, the total resistance will drop (see your physics for that). One 8 ohm speaker has a total resistance of 8 ohm (amazing!!!), two 8 ohm speakers have a total resistance of 4 ohm, and four 8 ohm speakers have a total resistance of 2 ohm.

If you need to know more, ask me, but it may take some time before i respond.... I am at Crete for the next 15 days

Greetz Maarten



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