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Questions on new gear

wondering if anyone has any ideas of anything else to add to my dj setup, i love to play trance, techno, alotta progressive stuff some hip hop not often tho, use of gear is for live performance and making my own music to play, right now i have;
-2X cdj1000mk3
- pioneer djm-800
-korg kaossilator pro
-17" macbook pro Intel Core 2 Duo



thinking about getting
-Native mashine with hardware
-Ableton live 8


Any input would be great thanks

Get a proper soundcard like the audio 4 or something if you don't have one, you will find maschine a pain without a proper soundcard. (latency)

Maschine is brilliant!!!, it's a lot of fun. It's also a kick ass midi controller, those pads work excellently as hot cues.


Cannot comment of ableton.

Roland MC-909 Groovebox

And possibly an effects deck

Re: Questions on new gear

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Originally posted by DJ.B22 use of gear is for live performance and making my own music to play ... -2X cdj1000mk3 - pioneer djm-800

I don't really see how you make your own music with 2 decks and a mixer.


Anyway, more details on specific aspects of your setup might help, for example are you running any software on your Mac already? Are you interested in adding effects/loops via Ableton etc?

what im saying is the purpose of me buying everything is for production and live play, i use my decks and mixer to play cd's and mix ect, but wanting to get into making my own music via korg kaossilator pro, and possibly-Native mashine with hardware-Ableton live 8

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Originally posted by chewy dragee Get a proper soundcard like the audio 4 or something if you don't have one, you will find maschine a pain without a proper soundcard. (latency) Maschine is brilliant!!!, it's a lot of fun. It's also a kick ass midi controller, those pads work excellently as hot cues. Cannot comment of ableton.

wondering how much to upgrade soundcard on my macbook pro woud be its a standad 2.4 ghz dual core macbook

He means buy an external soundcard.

http://www.native-instruments.com/#.../dj/audio-4-dj/

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Originally posted by DJ.B22 korg kaossilator pro, and possibly-Native mashine with hardware-Ableton live 8

NO NO NO NO NO, do not buy the kaossilator. It's a waste of money. Also don't buy the Maschine if you have no real reason to. You'd be much better off getting a MIDI keyboard if you want to start producing.

If I understand correctly you've decided to start DJing and producing? I assume that's what you mean when you say you want to make you own music to play. If that is the case you should really make two seperate threads (one here and one in Production Studio) as they are very different and one topic here won't be of much use.

Actually, don't start DJing and producing at the same time. Frankly, that's a terrible idea. If you start trying to do both you'll either A) Keep doing both but you won't get very good at either since you can't concentrate on one or B) Realize you don't want to do one and then cry about all the money you spent on it.

Than again, maybe I misunderstood and you only want to DJ. In that case, ignore everything I just said.

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Originally posted by floyd741 NO NO NO NO NO, do not buy the kaossilator. It's a waste of money. Also don't buy the Maschine if you have no real reason to. You'd be much better of getting a MIDI keyboard if you want to start producing. If I understand correctly you've decided to start DJing and producing? I assume that's what you mean when you say you want to make you own music to play. If that is the case you should really make two seperate threads (one here and one in Production Studio) as they are very different and one topic here won't be of much use. Finally, don't start DJing and producing at the same time. Frankly, that's a terrible idea. If you start trying to do both you'll either A) Keep doing both but you won't get very good at either since you can't concentrate on one or B) Realize you don't want to do one and then cry about all the money you spent on the other. Than again, maybe I misunderstood and you only want to DJ. In that case, ignore everything I just said.

What Floyd said.

from what it sounds like...ableton will be your best bet. get a multi output soundcard, some midi controllers, and if you go the production route.

you can have the option of mixing between ableton and your cd decks although its not the greatest imo.

check out the abletonlivedj forums to get some ideas.

Just wondering, why do so many DJ's get a Mac instead of a PC when it comes to using a laptop with their mobil setups and DVS

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Originally posted by Saint John Just wondering, why do so many DJ's get a Mac instead of a PC when it comes to using a laptop with their mobil setups and DVS

Mac is more reliable and manages the hardware better, Ableton live and this kind of software leech all the resources and introduces distortion to the sound if the processor specially isn't very fast.

However the current laptops are powerful enough for this so i think people use the mac because PvD and others use it and looks more professional, it's like when people underate some djs because of the gear they use... having 2x CDJ 2000 and Pioneer DJM-800 makes you a better dj?

Mainly for the stability you get straight out of the box from OSX, in comparison to the various Windows operating systems.

osx is better because you can watch porn worry free...simple as that.

think they should use that in their mac vs pc ads

i didn't really think that there would be so much difference myself, but the macbook is simply much more convenient when it comes to djing. it's already so much easier once you arrive at the venue... open the lid and it's ready. close the lid when you're done. it's a easy as that. and if it really crashes (which happens really really seldomly) it takes about 2 minutes to be back up.

hardware is also really convenient. i've never had any major hickups. and i've never encountered any problems adding or removing hardware like usb-sticks or midi-controllers during gigs. many windows djs refuse to do so, for a reason: i've seen compareable windows set-ups produce strange noises or hanging up completely on such occassions.

i'm not an apple fanboy for sure, and neither a fan of pvd or who ever... but there's one decision i surely don't regret: getting a macbook, especially not when it comes to djing.

there must be a reason behind mac>laptop for djing no doubt... but there is so much euphoria about the mac i think i'm going to start using my laptop too 2x 2ghz processor 3gb ram, should be enough... then i could see with my eyes if mac it's a must.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos having 2x CDJ 2000 and Pioneer DJM-800 makes you a better dj?

having 2 pioneer mk3's and a djm-800 doesnt make me a better dj, just means i have money and not too worried about what im spending on my stuff.

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Originally posted by DJ.B22 having 2 pioneer mk3's and a djm-800 doesnt make me a better dj, just means i have money and not too worried about what im spending on my stuff.

LOL awesome. Well said.

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Originally posted by DJ.B22 having 2 pioneer mk3's and a djm-800 doesnt make me a better dj, just means i have money and not too worried about what im spending on my stuff.

lucky you, i would like to have same equipment but my budget it's still far from that.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos Mac is more reliable and manages the hardware better, Ableton live and this kind of software leech all the resources and introduces distortion to the sound if the processor specially isn't very fast. However the current laptops are powerful enough for this so i think people use the mac because PvD and others use it and looks more professional, it's like when people underate some djs because of the gear they use... having 2x CDJ 2000 and Pioneer DJM-800 makes you a better dj?

I've been using Mac's since 1990. And to this day, I will never use a pc or any microsucks products. Mac's were designed for music in mind, because processing is faster, you don't need to keep updating drivers like on a pc.

People use Mac's not because of PvD. They use them because they have seen how easy they are to use. I dunno anyone who uses a pc for djing or any other music production. If they did use pc at one point, then they converted.

Kind of random question, but would there be any difference if I bought a computer in the states versus Australia? I remember when my girlfriend had her computer from Europe, if she ever wanted to watch a European DVD or CD she had to completely change something with her CD drive I think or something because of the different disc formats. Is it the same thing?

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Originally posted by Saint John Kind of random question, but would there be any difference if I bought a computer in the states versus Australia? I remember when my girlfriend had her computer from Europe, if she ever wanted to watch a European DVD or CD she had to completely change something with her CD drive I think or something because of the different disc formats. Is it the same thing?

I think a laptop can play any format of DVD. I think. Mine does. Yes an American computer will work in Australia. You would have to buy a power converter for it though.

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