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What is happening to Trance music?

this could be a topic of discussion, but i've gone through and through my trance collection of the years and have realized the trance music of today is nothing like it once was.

what seems to be gone is the uplifting progressive trance that made trance so popular. along with this the vocal and melodic trance mixes seem to be a way of the past. everybody it seems that i speak to agree that the music of today seems to be watered down from what it once was.

no wonder why we strive to goto parties that only play music from 2001 and earlier.

Services like Beatport resulting in an explosion of cookie cutter crap that's called 'trance' today. 95% of that stuff wouldn't see light if labels had to release it on vinyl or even CD's.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...52&forumid=1&s=

l0l

So you registered today to post a topic about something that has been known for several years?

Really?

seems ok to me

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Originally posted by owien seems ok to me

ME TOO!!

Basshunter is the shiznat AND he's got a COOL name!

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Originally posted by owien seems ok to me

Sounds like every other Sean Tyas track. If that's ok with you though, more power to you.


Basically what has happened is back in the early 2000's, the "trance explosion" jettisoned several DJs to superstar status. With this status came a large fan base, with that came money. They realized this music was extremely accessible and with the assistance of ecstasy, pulling people into their fold was a snap. They all then began pushing out the same cookie cutter music that makes the trance fans go wild. This is still happening today as basically the same big name DJs top the rankings for trance, and it's been that way for years with little shift.

Then it backfired. To the fans and to them (probably) this is no issue, as they just looooove their saws and breakdowns, but to the rest of the electronic music world, it became a sideshow carnival. These big name DJs basically set the standards for the scene, established a bunch of unwritten rules, and from then on, bedroom producers and DJs that got excited by this music decided they had to emulate their heroes to make it. Making it usually entails getting their track played on a radio show such as ASOT.

So basically, what has happened, is for the last 7 years or so the entire genre of trance has stagnated. There is no innovation occurring, no new ideas, nothing really of any technical value other than DJs using new equipment and the productions becoming increasingly sterile, but people still love it, because hey, it's pretty accessible. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, it's just boring and contrived.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker ME TOO!! Basshunter is the shiznat AND he's got a COOL name!

Go fuck yourself Eddie

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Originally posted by Lews Go fuck yourself Eddie

You introduced me to this troll bait... er, I mean artist of considerable talent.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker You introduced me to this troll bait... er, I mean artist of considerable talent.

I think you forgot to mention how great and deep his music is.

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Originally posted by Lews I think you forgot to mention how great and deep his music is.

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This is in relation to the actual size of the average person's ability to comprehend Basshunter.







It's been scientifically measured.

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Originally posted by Tovolicious

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Originally posted by enydo Sounds like every other Sean Tyas track.

what?














does it all still sounds the same for you? if so, if you sum serious hearing problems. I wish noobs could stfu sometimes!

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Originally posted by outofspace I wish noobs could stfu sometimes!

The ironyalert just went *WEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*

because what now it's called trance it isn't. Even those who had some reminiscence of "old trance" are now moving into "trance"

This post has some true facts:

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Basically what has happened is back in the early 2000's, the "trance explosion" jettisoned several DJs to superstar status. With this status came a large fan base, with that came money. They realized this music was extremely accessible and with the assistance of ecstasy, pulling people into their fold was a snap. They all then began pushing out the same cookie cutter music that makes the trance fans go wild. This is still happening today as basically the same big name DJs top the rankings for trance, and it's been that way for years with little shift. Then it backfired. To the fans and to them (probably) this is no issue, as they just looooove their saws and breakdowns, but to the rest of the electronic music world, it became a sideshow carnival. These big name DJs basically set the standards for the scene, established a bunch of unwritten rules, and from then on, bedroom producers and DJs that got excited by this music decided they had to emulate their heroes to make it. Making it usually entails getting their track played on a radio show such as ASOT. So basically, what has happened, is for the last 7 years or so the entire genre of trance has stagnated. There is no innovation occurring, no new ideas, nothing really of any technical value other than DJs using new equipment and the productions becoming increasingly sterile, but people still love it, because hey, it's pretty accessible. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, it's just boring and contrived.

The problem now is that if you make a track that could be classified as good on the old days you will have problems to sign it and if it gets signed will get the "support" of only a few % of the trance community.

While if you make something generic you will have labels pushing you to sign the track with them and people making your track appear on the top 100 charts on beatport.

For a producer to actually wants to make his hobby a work the path is easy, go for the second.

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Basically what has happened is back in the early 2000's, the "trance explosion" jettisoned several DJs to superstar status. With this status came a large fan base, with that came money. They realized this music was extremely accessible and with the assistance of ecstasy, pulling people into their fold was a snap. They all then began pushing out the same cookie cutter music that makes the trance fans go wild. This is still happening today as basically the same big name DJs top the rankings for trance, and it's been that way for years with little shift. Then it backfired. To the fans and to them (probably) this is no issue, as they just looooove their saws and breakdowns, but to the rest of the electronic music world, it became a sideshow carnival. These big name DJs basically set the standards for the scene, established a bunch of unwritten rules, and from then on, bedroom producers and DJs that got excited by this music decided they had to emulate their heroes to make it. Making it usually entails getting their track played on a radio show such as ASOT. So basically, what has happened, is for the last 7 years or so the entire genre of trance has stagnated. There is no innovation occurring, no new ideas, nothing really of any technical value other than DJs using new equipment and the productions becoming increasingly sterile, but people still love it, because hey, it's pretty accessible. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, it's just boring and contrived.

Smart edition.

tl;dr edition:

It went down the shitter.

find something you like, simple

Welcome to fifteen years ago.

well as to say most of your comments are not completely unfounded. if you look at all the electro/house/dubstep etc...the ones that ARE GOOD could be essentially classified as Trance.

you see mainstream trance taking a step towards a continuous beat and rythem with no real difference between track one and track two. then you see these new classifications that have the trance tempo, beat, and build up then everybody loves those tracks.

trance is moving to somewhere we don't care for, where as everything else is moving to where trance was. why because they are sounding more and more like trance. trance music once was layered music with many different layers. now it is muttled and monotone.

sure tiesto's NEW album was good, but it is a step in another direction than his music 3 years ago. his instrumental tracks are mono tone in comparison to his older stuff. lately i've been searching for less mainstream artists that give it the way we like it.

if you even listen to regular pop or top 40's music. how many tracks could be considered trance or have a trance beat? LMFAO, Black Eyed Pea's, Lady GAGA. they all are using trace beats for their HIT music.

maybe Trance artists/composers today are getting tunnel vision, but everybody else seems to have found what they had all along.

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Originally posted by hachiroku sure tiesto's NEW album was good

Sure smells like a troll.

although it's true that pop starts left their guitars to pick computers i don't consider black eyed peas have a trance influence, lady gaga possibly has some influence like many others, but not really a trance influence but eurodance which is like the most commercial trance you can imagine.

But now you see 120-130 bpm beats on pop songs that's clear, and i specially agree on this:

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Well as to say most of your comments are not completely unfounded. if you look at all the electro/house/dubstep etc...the ones that ARE GOOD could be essentially classified as Trance.

what people call choons are usually closer to trance than to other genres, even the beginning of Sexy Bitch it's a raw copy of Tuvan, or Tuvan copyed Sexy Bitch i don't care.

Look at music in the past fifty years. From 1960, already riding several different waves, various styles have advanced, retreated, or are close to comatose. Only foolish people are lamenting, "Whatever happened to Rock n' Roll? In the Sixties, we had bands like Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin. Elvis Presley was still alive. Look at it now! Sound-garden? Greenday? Metalica?"

Personally, I don't particularly want to listen to most trance that's ten years old, anymore. There are records I have purchased which are just horrible by today's standards and while they might not have been that great, back when I bought them, I still considered them gold.

The things which made it an innovative sound now make it archaic. No doubt, there will be fools who want to hold onto everything about the past which gave them fond memories. I'm almost certain that there will be groups of people who find themselves on the internet or in larger cities to spin old records and think back to the time they met that girl on MDMA during the break and something cosmic happened - then and there - and now they're wondering what she's up to and if they'll ever meet up, again.

It is sentimental nostalgia for nostalgia sake. It is useless and irrelevant. It is something to cling to, at best, in order to remember a time when there was hope and things aren't as rough as they are, right now.

Don't get me wrong. There are quite a few old songs which I love and would happily hear, again, given a few moments of spare time. There are forms to songs which still inspire my creative process and ideas I still incorporate. There are always techniques to borrow and/or steal and kick drums to sample.

If you're hanging your hat on one artist to keep to whatever your norms are, you're setting yourself up for failure. Most producers I've met get bored of doing the same shit. Personally, I've explored about five different styles including Hip Hop and Ambient.

Griping about the trends you perceive is as close to a wet paper sack of broken hammers as useless can get. It's also lazy. Go look for new music. No one in a position to address your grievance is going to - ever.

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