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What software/hardware do I need to get to sound like Dash Berlin&Armin Van Buuren?
Hi, I'm new to producing trance music. I'm on a Mac. What softwares do I need to get that professional radio quality sound? I produce rock music mostly, and have been doing so for a few years now. I know how to cut rock tracks, but mixing for trance is totally different. Most of the plug-ins I've played with sound really flat and mediocre. It doesn't have that punch I'm seeking after as how you would hear in a Berlin mix (like the song Waiting).
What do you guys use that has helped you achieved that professional trance sound? I have no clue where to begin as far as buying software and hardware for making trance.
For starters, here's what I have so far in my collection:
Logic Express 8
Korg EMX1
Yamaha CS1x
Kore 2 with the controller (just ordered this; on its way)
Komplete 5 (getting this very soon)
Will this be good enough? Not good enough? Any help from you guys will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
-Byron
u have everything u need in logic. just learn the synths and the efex. it takes time!
Yeah just update to logic pro, express is quite limited. Also Ni Komplete which you are getting is quite good package for trance/dance/house stuff. Thats all you need to get started.
- Start with high quality samples for your percussion. There are many good sample packs out there. I always use free ones but for beginning it can be a pain in the arse shaping these.
- Learn at least one synth inside-out. That way you'll be able to replicate almost all sounds with it and then you can apply this knowledge to other synths.
- Watch tutorials, ask questions, experiment.
good advice lunar
get a good sample pack
learn one good synth inside out
i have heard that most producers just use logic synths but one of my fav synths it's z3ta and gemini, the 1st has automation and with the 2nd one you can achieve every single sound you want, i am amazed how powerful is it's modulation.
the internal synths in logic are quite awesome, but their a bit complex so it takes some time learning them, im not there yet but the sounds i get are really good.
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| Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 - Start with high quality samples for your percussion. There are many good sample packs out there. I always use free ones but for beginning it can be a pain in the arse shaping these. - Learn at least one synth inside-out. That way you'll be able to replicate almost all sounds with it and then you can apply this knowledge to other synths. - Watch tutorials, ask questions, experiment. |
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| Originally posted by sako487 +1 |
Don't forget the two years of constant and obsessive learning and experimenting to get to the stage where you can start learning how to make something sound decent.
And decent monitors.
start masterbating more
i am not even lying.
after i rub one out...i get the urge to create music and ideas just come to me..
sex would work to.
Thanks for the great feedback, guys. I have learned a lot this past week just pondering and thinking about what you all have written. I found a great Logic Pro tutorial by Sean Tyas on youtube. Check it out if you use Logic. Seven parts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITAuZzIgKnA
Do you guys know where I can go to get really good percussions? Is the REX packages good enough to get pro sounding quality? Thanks.
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| Originally posted by mannaRose Do you guys know where I can go to get really good percussions? Is the REX packages good enough to get pro sounding quality? Thanks. |
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| Originally posted by floyd741 Drum Samples. This is a torrent, I have the same one and I think it's excellent. (the page only displays a few drum machines, it has way more than the ones listed) I find that anything like this is usually much better than something like the Vengeance sample pack. It's much easier to work with something that hasn't already been processed to shit plus, you don't have to look through 200 kick drums like you would with Vengeance. If I know I'm looking for something more realistic I'll probably go for the Boss DR-550 or the Alesis SR16. Say I want some more "classic" sounds, I would go straight for the Roland TR Series. It really makes everything much easier. Also, it's free and probably better than anything you would have to pay for. |
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| Originally posted by LoveHate start masterbating more i am not even lying. after i rub one out...i get the urge to create music and ideas just come to me.. sex would work to. |
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| Originally posted by DjStephenWiley sex doesnt work. the woman always wants to cuddle and your brain resets by the time you're able to shackle away |
OMG check me out, my name is NewbProducer and I want to sound like the most popular "artists" in the scene because that's all I've been able to find in the ten seconds it took me to Google "trance".
I can't believe you haven't been flamed a crap-load, but I'll try to be nice. They do not sound like that becuase of what they use to make music, they sound that way because they know HOW to use what they use to make music. You don't need anything in particular to sound like them, what you need is a decade of constant dedication.
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| Originally posted by alanzo OMG check me out, my name is NewbProducer and I want to sound like the most popular "artists" in the scene because that's all I've been able to find in the ten seconds it took me to Google "trance". |
hmm....the question is similar to like, ive been playing flute, but now i want to start with rock, i never tried the guitar, but which guitar should i buy to sound awesome as van halen?
Its not in the guitar, its the hundread years of playing guitar.
Same with Trance. You need to litsen to trance every day for 5 years, learn about mixing, mastering, synthesis, and then you might get CLOSE.
Dont forget that it just isnt mr Van Burren or mister Dash Berlin sat at a computer on there own making these tunes.There can be a whole load of sub/co-producers working on a track.That is why they churn out loads of tracks globetrotting whilst DJ'ing.
Look at Durand , he sounds as if he has Tiesto's old production crew behind him now.There production is very similar.
Am i rite?
Here is my take on it. And I'll explain it with an easy metaphore.
Suppose you want to make a replicate of a Ferrari Enzo, you're going to need all the parts and the expertise of Ferrari to make it.
If you got only the parts of a Lada or a Ford or some car from the junkyard, but you have the expertise, you might be able to make a car that looks like a Ferrari Enzo with enough creativity, but it doesn't drive and feel exactly the same.
Likewise if you got all the parts that Ferrari use but you don't have the expertise, the car won't even run as it has alot of problems and equipment that are not used correctly.
So in short, you need both the gear and the expertise to sound exactly like them.
was just having fun in 10 min 
http://www.adamszabo.com/internet/dash_berlin.mp3
I found a great Logic Pro tutorial by Sean Tyas on youtube. Check it out if you use Logic. Seven parts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITAuZzIgKnA
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| Originally posted by sshayndell12 I found a great Logic Pro tutorial by Sean Tyas on youtube. Check it out if you use Logic. Seven parts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITAuZzIgKnA _____________________________________________________________ |
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