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Security for G20/G8 Summits in Canada will cost AT LEAST $830 MILLION

What ... the ... FUCK.

IS IT REALLY WORTH IT TO HAVE THIS MEETING?

We have a serious budget deficit and debt to pay off, but the government has the money to pay for this stupid nonsense meeting of the world's richest and most powerful.

I never been to protest the G20/G8 gatherings, but I sure as hell would like to protest this GIGANTIC taxpayer-funded party/bill.

http://www.thespec.com/News/article/775442

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May 25, 2010 Canadian Press OTTAWA - Security for next month's G8 and G20 summits will cost Canadian taxpayers at least $833 million. Figures released by the federal government reveal $654 million in new money, on top of $179 million already earmarked. The numbers show the RCMP - which is leading the massive security effort - will receive an additional $321 million, while the Public Safety Department gets $262 million. Monies will also go to the Defence Department, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, the national air transportation security authority and a clutch of other agencies. G8 leaders gather in Huntsville, Ont., late next month, then join other world leaders for the G20 summit in Toronto. The money will be used for planning, accommodation, information technology, and working with security partners to protect leaders and their delegations.

Waste of money!

Holy crap that's so much money just on security. And with the Security Perimeters going up, whats gonna happen to club events? Will regular ppl be allowed down into the entertainment district at night time??

That's just some non sense bs!
Why don't they have it somewhere else?

Canada needs to earn money, not burn money.

Participating countries should contribute to security costs IMO

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Originally posted by Skipper Participating countries should contribute to security costs IMO

+1

Please note than $833 million is probably not all the costs, it doesnt say anywhere that security is the only thing that costs money.

Somehow I feel that the agencies will pocket much of the money, or pay officers extra for the security. This feels like another excuse for the government to abuse money, and I dont hear much criticism of this specific 833million debacle in the media. Fucking quiet.

Maybe we should at least hold the government accountable to make sure this platinum meeting of suits will actually produce something very important or very useful. Naaaah, unlikely.

800 million will be enough money for a large project, a way to generate jobs, pay off the debt, or maybe decrease the deficit.

AND THEN THEY TRY TO RAISE TAXES ... Damn politicians, damn McGuilties.

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Originally posted by Skipper Participating countries should contribute to security costs IMO

Isn't it moved around from each of the countries thus the costs are shared as each country hosts the event.

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Originally posted by musicsnob_NOT Isn't it moved around from each of the countries thus the costs are shared as each country hosts the event.

Waste of fuckin money. Do these people know what Skype is? just imagine how this money could have been used towards something more useful...

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Originally posted by musicsnob_NOT Isn't it moved around from each of the countries thus the costs are shared as each country hosts the event.

I'm interested to know how security in Russia would differ, cost wise, from that in Canada.

I guess hippy bashing is serious business in Canada

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Waste of fuckin money. Do these people know what Skype is? just imagine how this money could have been used towards something more useful...

It sounds kinda silly, but since the world's economies are in the crapper it might be time to think outside the box now.

Oh, what I could do with $800,000,000+ over two days......

There are better technologies out there for videoconferencing, Skype is just a popular and free medium. But its much like an analogy that a wealthy person would avoid taking public transit. Rich and powerful always like to throw very lavish and expensive parties. The difference is that politicians prefer to use taxpayer money, not their own.

Agreed with Skipper, I doubt the Russians would spent $830 million on G8 security, thats a huge chunk of cash there. It is a question of how well the money is spent, and in this case the taxpayer money is flowing generously and freely ...

ok I was joking about the Skype thing but I was just trying to make a point that there are many ways these douchebags can have their silly meeting without spending all this money. I'm surprised that we dont see alot of people being angry about this.

WTF how can 800M$ be spend on security alone in two days?!?!?

If you give 100k to every cop for each day, a completely ridiculous amount, that's still enough for 40,000 cops!!

Something is wrong here, maybe that 800M$ is just a typo or something.

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Originally posted by malek WTF how can 800M$ be spend on security alone in two days?!?!? If you give 100k to every cop for each day, a completely ridiculous amount, that's still enough for 40,000 cops!! Something is wrong here, maybe that 800M$ is just a typo or something.

800 mil is a lot, but I'm guessing they factored in cost for months of planning, buying/moving equipment, wages, food, etc.

dunno how many security personnel are involved, but i know the canadian military is bringing a lot of dudes down, in case hippies go out of control and riot cops can't handle the situation

i hate this stupid effing meeting.
Pride got bumped to July 4th weekend because of it.
which means I cannot come.
Which means I'm pretty pissed.

stupid government.
no respect for my sex life.

haha, I'm actually pleased with the timing - I'm out of town the G20 weekend for a family thing, which means I get to miss the insanity but still go to pride the next weekend

$820 mil is a pretty standard price tag for an operation of this sort. You've got RCMP, OPP, Toronto Police Service, CF, DFAIT, and Public Works all coordinating operations. The planning and training has been going on for over a year, and the number of personnel is huge. It's not just front line cops and soldiers, there is also a large support element that is required for events such as this. Police have been on the ground for at least a month collecting intelligence, conducting risk assessments, and consulting with organizers on security needs and construction. These people all have to be housed, fed, transported, and yes, entertained.

Necessary? It may seem like overkill, but the Americans in particular are very sensitive when it comes to these types of meetings. If the I's arent dotted and the T's crossed - they don't come. Considering the activist history at these types of meetings, Nobody should be surprised at the price tag. Want to spend less on security? Leave your anarchists, black bloc, and assorted idiots at home.

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Originally posted by Skipper haha, I'm actually pleased with the timing - I'm out of town the G20 weekend for a family thing, which means I get to miss the insanity but still go to pride the next weekend

i hate you

(not real hate of course)

Sadly the jazz fest didn't get moved from the G20 weekend

I can smell Jack Bauer and the CTU

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Originally posted by barbina stupid government. no respect for my sex life.

oh Barb <3

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Originally posted by Yohan 800 mil is a lot, but I'm guessing they factored in cost for months of planning, buying/moving equipment, wages, food, etc. dunno how many security personnel are involved, but i know the canadian military is bringing a lot of dudes down, in case hippies go out of control and riot cops can't handle the situation

I was reading about this Integrated Security Unit having 100% control on all the security for G20. They are taking over the Royal York Hotel for all the RCMP coming, and I think it's gonna be pretty crazy to get around downtown unless you have a verifiable reason to be there. I'm guessing this is why the city is trying to shut down clubs and bars in certain areas?

Also, I read that the reason the cost for the G8+G20 is so high is because the Integrated Security Unit is using alot of new temporary security technologies for the events. Has anyone seen the mini cameras at almost all the major intersections downtown?

Just wait for the Sound Cannons that the cops have apparently got

I read that through here :

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...00523/20100523/

http://ccla.org/?p=5570

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