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Posted by djdenver on May-30-2010 20:42:

equipment needed to make trance

what equipment is needed?

what should beginners use?

what do djs like tiesto use?

what fl studio kits should i get?

what keyboards,synths,drum machines should i get?


Posted by Nemesis44 on May-30-2010 20:54:

Hey there,

You would probably benefit from going to the production forum. But read the tutorials before you post a question. It will stand you in good stead.

quote:
what do djs like tiesto use?


That question reeks of trolling if you ask me but I will give you benefit of the doubt. My advice would be to avoid asking that question all together.

You should probably start by asking yourself what your budget is. Then take it from there.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by djdenver on May-30-2010 21:08:

im not trollin


Posted by Rodri Santos on May-30-2010 21:38:

Tiesto use hired producers, go ask them. (long answer)

Short Answer: Apple Logic


Posted by Nemesis44 on May-30-2010 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by djdenver
im not trollin


Fair enough, in which case the producers forum is your first stop.

What you should probably do first and foremost is check out the demos of the main DAWs (sequencers)as this will be the main host for your music. It's a tough road to be honest and the learning curve is steep.

You don't have to use logic but it is a good application without a doubt.

If you are going down the hardware route then be prepared to spend a lot of money, and VSTs may be a better option. There is a heck of a lot of good free stuff out there for trance. You may want to try the Genesis VST. Since I picked that up I love it.

FL Studio
Reason
Cubase
Logic (if you have a MAC)
Sonar

those are all good sequencers or complete packages that can get you started.
If you are looking for a good out of the box solution then maybe Reason is a good place to start. It has everything built in and is perfectly capable of giving you pro results once you learn how to use it.

It all depends on what you are bringing with you to the table i.e. what experience do you have?

Cheers
Nem


Posted by JEO on May-31-2010 06:51:

I picked up Fruityloops several years ago as mine. And thought "Once I conquer this software, I'll move on to something more pro." But I haven't used anything else since then. Probably because I'm intimidated by the fact that getting used to a new DAW will take me time. But having your head wrapped around one of them, I'm sure it's easier to do it on other DAWs too.

If you're an absolute beginner, I'd recommend FL Studio. But it's your choice.
I think you can get those "pro-results" with any DAW, if you use it right.

In example Primo Lux - The Wall was done with FL Studio, and you can check if it's pro or not.


Posted by PlasticSoul on May-31-2010 11:42:

For produce trance you need a vengeance essential clubsounds sample pack and refx nexus.

Ah... and a daw.

So, search some label...


Posted by IceColdWater on May-31-2010 12:58:

Re: equipment needed to make trance

quote:
Originally posted by djdenver
what equipment is needed?



Basically a computer. That's the most fundamental approach.

quote:
Originally posted by djdenver


what should beginners use?



Try FL Studio. It's pretty straight forward and easy to use. Well , that's for me.

quote:
Originally posted by djdenver

what do djs like tiesto use?




Cubase. And lots of hardware.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on May-31-2010 13:10:

Enough trance has already been made. There is a multitude of good tracks and an even larger multitude of mediocre and bad ones. Why do you think you should add to the pile? Does the world really need your input?


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-31-2010 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul
For produce trance you need a vengeance essential clubsounds sample pack and refx nexus.

Ah... and a daw.

So, search some label...


this is all wrong.


my only tip to the OP is to be careful who you take advice from!


Posted by EddieZilker on May-31-2010 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Enough trance has already been made. There is a multitude of good tracks and an even larger multitude of mediocre and bad ones. Why do you think you should add to the pile? Does the world really need your input?


+1

& Thanks for your support.


Posted by alanzo on May-31-2010 15:40:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Enough trance has already been made. There is a multitude of good tracks and an even larger multitude of mediocre and bad ones. Why do you think you should add to the pile? Does the world really need your input?


Ouch. Although I do agree that you shouldn't get into it if your goal is to make something like what "dj tiesto" has his name on in under five years. Meaning everything you make will sound aweful for several years.

Start with something simple. A lot of beginners go with FL Studio or Reason since they're pretty all-inclusive. Many will then migrate to DAWs like Logic or Cubase, although many excellent trance tracks have been done in FL Studio and Reason.

I say to start simple because creating trance music is NOT easy and do not think for even a second that it is. Also never forget that you are creating MUSIC. If you do not want to bother learning the foundations of music and melody ("music theory"), stick to techno or some forms of house.


Posted by atxbigballer1 on May-31-2010 15:42:

Re: equipment needed to make trance

quote:
Originally posted by djdenver
what equipment is needed?

what should beginners use?

what do djs like tiesto use?

what fl studio kits should i get?

what keyboards,synths,drum machines should i get?

Edit
Roland TR-808 (drums)
Roland TR-909 (drums)
Roland TB-303 (bass)
Roland JP-8080(supersaw)
Akai MPC 2000xl(sequencer / sampler)
mixer (mixer out to your audio interface)
Computer and audio interface with daw (use as a recorder)


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-31-2010 15:55:

the advices here is getting worse and worse. why would anyone need two 909 machines? stereo? unison? why would anyone need one at all when the sounds are available as samples anywhere for free? and the 303? thats probably the most limited and useless synth ever made!


Posted by floyd741 on May-31-2010 15:58:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Enough trance has already been made. There is a multitude of good tracks and an even larger multitude of mediocre and bad ones. Why do you think you should add to the pile? Does the world really need your input?

Best advice in this thread, imo.


Posted by atxbigballer1 on May-31-2010 15:58:

quote:
Originally posted by 19503
the advices here is getting worse and worse. why would anyone need two 909 machines? stereo? unison? why would anyone need one at all when the sounds are available as samples anywhere for free? and the 303? thats probably the most limited and useless synth ever made!
sorry 1 909 and 808!


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-31-2010 15:59:

quote:
Originally posted by atxbigballer1
sorry 1 909 and 808!

still a terrible advice.


Posted by atxbigballer1 on May-31-2010 16:08:

Re: Re: equipment needed to make trance

quote:
Originally posted by atxbigballer1
Edit
Roland TR-808 (drums)
Roland TR-909 (drums)
Roland TB-303 (bass)
Roland JP-8080(supersaw)
Akai MPC 2000xl(sequencer / sampler)


quote:
Originally posted by 19503
still a terrible advice.


ALL Legendary Gear for making Trance music!
What's wrong with this advice?


Posted by atxbigballer1 on May-31-2010 16:09:

btw
i was just going old school on the guy.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-31-2010 16:30:

yeah. dont. its not good advice. oldschool is shit to work with and expensive as hell. its a miracle techno was even made before, it just proves that people had too little to do at the time.


to the OP: u need a computer and a software-sequencer like Reason, FL, Cubase, Logic, Ableton. Some of these have everything u need inside the program so u dont need to worry about additional virtual synths (VST).

still my biggest advice is again be careful who you take advice from.


Posted by Rodri Santos on May-31-2010 16:58:

my best advice would be download a trial of reason or logic and see if you like it. 90% of the people who listen to EDM want to be a dj/producer and it's not that easy.

PD: I'm another FL user scared of a change of daw


Posted by Mise on May-31-2010 17:46:

Make sure you got a lot of free time, watch many youtube tutorials some help some dont but you always learn something new. A good pair of headphones may help you to analyze sounds better.


Posted by kevin shawn on May-31-2010 19:22:

READ THE F*CKING STICKIES


Posted by mannaRose on May-31-2010 20:04:

Edit
Future Magazine's YouTube site has helped me a lot. I highly recommend it (even for the old pros). A lot of the tutorials on this channel are done in Logic Pro.. but if you can't afford Pro, you can still get a way with using the light, and cheaper version; Logic Express And Logic is Mac-based only. If you're on a Mac, then get this software. It seems to be the software used most by the trance producers. I say Logic because if you plan to watch a lot of tutorials from Future Magazine, then you could relate better to the tutorials. Vintage hardware is nice, but like what many on here are saying, it's very expensive and most of the sounds are already inside the DAW's, or third-party virtual instruments.

If you're going the Mac route, here's all you need to start with:

1) Logic Pro (or Logic Express if you can't afford Pro version)

2) Midi Controller

Don't forget to watch these awesome tutorials:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FutureMusicMagazine


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-31-2010 20:18:

midi controller isnt really necessary. a soundcard is more important imo.


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