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Posted by Ivand on Jun-03-2010 02:51:

tv-heads recommend me a new hdtv/monitor

so cor im looking for a new hdtv/monitor, preferably 1080p and under 400usd. 24-32 inches.

Something like this
http://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-VT2...A/ref=de_a_smtd


So any ideas?


Posted by shaw on Jun-03-2010 02:52:

pioneer elite.


Posted by jester on Jun-03-2010 02:59:

Look into Vizio.


Posted by Lilith on Jun-03-2010 03:00:

When I bought my 1080p HDTV, the Samsungs and LG's had the best quality picture out of the others.


Posted by igottaknow on Jun-03-2010 03:03:

my advice see it in person before buying. i had something very similar or the same on loan and didn't like it. viewsonic tv/computer monitor. narrow angle of view and cable reacted slow to changing channels.


Posted by Lews on Jun-03-2010 03:04:

Sony and Samsung over all.


Posted by Ivand on Jun-03-2010 03:05:

quote:
Originally posted by jester
Look into Vizio.


ive been told that, i have a friend who has a 32 inches one and its pretty decent.

quote:
Originally posted by shaw
pioneer elite.


expensive much?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jun-03-2010 03:08:

Love my Samsung. Highly recommended.


Posted by Ivand on Jun-03-2010 03:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Sony and Samsung over all.



i know that, but they are really expensive, unless theres some model im missing. Care to recommend?


Posted by Chris Crossland on Jun-03-2010 03:17:

I have a LG Flatron W2361VG-PF and I love it although it's been discontinued. They also have a 24" and 27" which I'm assuming are just as good or better. You could probably get the 24" for around $250 and the 27" for just under $400. The 27" contrast ratio is 5 times better than the one you posted. I've always liked LG's stuff.

http://www.lg.com/us/computer-produ...r-W2753V-PF.jsp


Posted by shaw on Jun-03-2010 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Ivand
expensive much?


nah, you can get 'em for 2k now.


back to the actual post, though. how much of this is monitor vs. tv?


Posted by shaw on Jun-03-2010 03:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Crossland
I have a LG Flatron W2361VG-PF and I love it although it's been discontinued. They also have a 24" and 27" which I'm assuming are just as good or better. You could probably get the 24" for around $250 and the 27" for just under $400. The 27" contrast ratio is 5 times better than the one you posted. I've always liked LG's stuff.

http://www.lg.com/us/computer-produ...r-W2753V-PF.jsp


contrast ratio means nothing.

that said, lg does make pretty good monitors.

again, contrast ratio means nothing.


Posted by Ivand on Jun-03-2010 03:28:

quote:
Originally posted by shaw
nah, you can get 'em for 2k now.


back to the actual post, though. how much of this is monitor vs. tv?


actually, it will spend more of the time hooked up to a computer, i watch a lot of movies and tv series (most of them downloaded), i just want it to have a tv tuner so I can also browse channels from time to time. Also, some computer work will be done in it


Posted by Chris Crossland on Jun-03-2010 03:28:

quote:
Originally posted by shaw
contrast ratio means nothing.

that said, lg does make pretty good monitors.

again, contrast ratio means nothing.


Interesting. I wonder why they take the time to tell you what it is.

But yeah LG makes nice CLEAR, SHARP and BRIGHT monitors.


Posted by Reza on Jun-03-2010 03:30:

love my Sony LED


Posted by shaw on Jun-03-2010 03:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Crossland
Interesting. I wonder why they take the time to tell you what it is.

But yeah LG makes nice CLEAR, SHARP and BRIGHT monitors.


advertising. there's no standard on how to measure it, which is why you get ridiculous piles of statistical feces printed on the boxes.

ever wonder why a runco plasma has a 30,000:1 and that super-slim samsung led has a 6,000,000:1, yet the runco is the best consumer tv on the market and that samsung looks absolutely horrible? because contrast ratio is meaningless. the fact that runco even bothers to list theirs is a sign of how far they've fallen.


Posted by cmay119 on Jun-03-2010 03:49:

If you can stretch your budget to $500. I'd suggest this model:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panason...8&skuId=9740811

1080p, IPS (In-Plane Switching) Panel (178 Degree viewing angles & very accurate color reproduction).

Just bought one of these myself recently. Go have a look at this TV in store, then look at it from the right and the left. The picture should stay as clear as if you're looking at it from straight on. Compare with some other TV's on display and if you see their colors starting to wash out, you'll know that they don't have IPS panels in those TVs.

There's a similar 720p model for $400.

The only gripe I have about this TV is that the audio is somewhat lack-luster (It's not bad, it's just not great), so if you're looking for a TV that has good sound reproduction on it's own, then you may want to look elsewhere.


Posted by shaw on Jun-03-2010 03:51:

anyway...

size is the issue, then. don't get less than 1080, because it will drive you nuts on a pc. the thing is, a monitor will perform better than a tv for pc use. they're brighter and have much lower response times (spec that exists). the problem is, once you go above 26 or so, the price skyrockets. so, do you want a smaller (if you call a 26" monitor small) set that looks better, or the biggest one you can afford? if you're sitting at a desk, 26 is already huge.

panasonic is the correct call for smaller tvs. yes, the sound sucks, but sound on all small tvs sucks. i'd assume he has desktop speakers already, so that doesn't matter.


Posted by cmay119 on Jun-03-2010 03:58:

quote:
Originally posted by shaw
anyway...

size is the issue, then. don't get less than 1080, because it will drive you nuts on a pc. the thing is, a monitor will perform better than a tv for pc use. they're brighter and have much lower response times (spec that exists). the problem is, once you go above 26 or so, the price skyrockets. so, do you want a smaller (if you call a 26" monitor small) set that looks better, or the biggest one you can afford? if you're sitting at a desk, 26 is already huge.

panasonic is the correct call for smaller tvs. yes, the sound sucks, but sound on all small tvs sucks. i'd assume he has desktop speakers already, so that doesn't matter.


Yikes, I didn't read the first post well enough. I thought OP was looking for a TV for TV purposes not to double up as a monitor. I usually don't suggest TV's for PC use.

This is what I suggest for a monitor:
http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/...ad-c2fa8204f2a0

Again, this is also equipped with an IPS panel, so if Photoshop is a priority then I don't suggest anything less than a monitor with an IPS panel. This one just so happens to fit into the $400 budget, but is 23" not 24".


Posted by shaw on Jun-03-2010 04:05:

quote:
Originally posted by cmay119
Yikes, I didn't read the first post well enough. I thought OP was looking for a TV for TV purposes not to double up as a monitor. I usually don't suggest TV's for PC use.

This is what I suggest for a monitor:
http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/...ad-c2fa8204f2a0

Again, this is also equipped with an IPS panel, so if Photoshop is a priority then I don't suggest anything less than a monitor with an IPS panel. This one just so happens to fit into the $400 budget, but is 23" not 24".


problem with that one is, no tuner.

the tuner really limits your options. samsung makes a few. I have one of theirs and it's alright, despite my hatred for most things they make. Here's the newer version of it:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16824001392

LG makes one, too, though it seems people have a real problem with viewing angles. I have the same problem with mine. a lot of this has to do with the fact that you're sitting very close to a large screen. the size-distance ratio is unbelievably high, so you're looking at the edges at a much more extreme angle than you would with a tv across the room. there's not really a way around it.

go look at the two, see which one looks better. Here's the LG:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16824005142


Posted by jester on Jun-03-2010 04:28:

quote:
Originally posted by cmay119
If you can stretch your budget to $500. I'd suggest this model:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panason...8&skuId=9740811

1080p, IPS (In-Plane Switching) Panel (178 Degree viewing angles & very accurate color reproduction).

Just bought one of these myself recently. Go have a look at this TV in store, then look at it from the right and the left. The picture should stay as clear as if you're looking at it from straight on. Compare with some other TV's on display and if you see their colors starting to wash out, you'll know that they don't have IPS panels in those TVs.

There's a similar 720p model for $400.

The only gripe I have about this TV is that the audio is somewhat lack-luster (It's not bad, it's just not great), so if you're looking for a TV that has good sound reproduction on it's own, then you may want to look elsewhere.


Now thats a good buy for US$500


Posted by WhooCares on Jun-03-2010 05:27:

maybe this one..id buy it if i had the cash

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16824005142

edit...same one shaw recommended


Posted by The17sss on Jun-03-2010 05:35:

I'd love to watch this on a new Samsung 1080p



Posted by Sunsnail on Jun-03-2010 07:17:


Posted by WhooCares on Jun-03-2010 07:20:

btw i have* a Vizio...and its been nothing but good to me

*HAVE!


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