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Did you get your HST rebate?

Sigh. I didnt see this coming at all. First, the government passed the new tax without proper consultation with the public. Now they are sending around the bribes to make people shup up and accept it.

I got $100 cheque in the mail. ONLY $100???? I refuse to cash it, I will call on Monday and tell them to shove it up their ass.

I will probably pay more in one month in the increased tax levies than the $100 to offset it for the year. It is a joke, it is an insult. Yes, maybe I have some pride, a sense of dignity, but they cant buy me off or shut me up. I want them to know that I DID NOT ACCEPT this tax.

So its not free money, folks. It ts money that the government gave to shut you up, to BUY your permission to accept this HST tax.

Enough with giving big business tax breaks and rebates and shit while shifting the tax weight/burden on us the taxpayers. While they're enjoying their $1.2 billion G8/G20 party and talking about freezing public service workers wages to deal with the deficit while maintaining irresponsible spending practises.

People need to be heard. People need to understand what this is all about. Alleged HST tax benefits are mostly a theory. How do they know if they will create jobs, and not be used to pay CEO's even more bonuses?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509394889#!/group.php?gid=129652527062367&ref=search

as i said in my facebook update:


Thank you Dalton McGuinty for my HST bribe cheque. But im still not voting for you!!


the worst is that u get punished for being single. $100 for singles. $330 for married people. Like fuck off already social engineering state!! LOL

Cant wait for July 1 when our gas prices will be the same as in Montreal

BTW this whole nonsense about businesses passing on their savings to you.

The premiers own LCBO has rejigged its prices to make sure that they dont go down on July 1st meaning that they are going to make even more off you starting July 1st.

So if the province's own monopoly business wont adjust their prices downward, why would anyone else?


What a scam

I am proud to say i voted both times and both times i didnt not vote for mcidiot.

I got my $100.00. What a joke.

Speaking of married people getting $320, is it true that if you file as common law you don't even get a GST check? just thinking into the (near) future. Seems like common laws get screwed the most.

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Originally posted by KStuff I got my $100.00. What a joke. Speaking of married people getting $320, is it true that if you file as common law you don't even get a GST check? just thinking into the (near) future. Seems like common laws get screwed the most.

common law would get something, im assuming its the $100. I think GST depends on your income.

who said it's "free money"??? and it's three payments, btw.

http://www.rev.gov.on.ca/en/credit/sttb/index.html

I think the entire rebate system is ridiculous. isn't that far more inefficient and costly to administer than simply incorporating a rebate claim in the tax return for eligible persons???

in any case, whether you agree or disagree with the HST rebates (and the GST ones for that matter), not cashing the cheque is pointless, IMHO.

if you don't want the money, cash the cheque and donate the money to your favourite charity who will put it to good use. you will get a small tax credit for yourself for your donation.

hell, if you're that upset about it, donate the money to an opposing provincial or federal party and email your MPP and MP to say so.

not cashing it is dumb...

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Originally posted by Jayx1 BTW this whole nonsense about businesses passing on their savings to you. The premiers own LCBO has rejigged its prices to make sure that they dont go down on July 1st meaning that they are going to make even more off you starting July 1st. So if the province's own monopoly business wont adjust their prices downward, why would anyone else? What a scam I am proud to say i voted both times and both times i didnt not vote for mcidiot.

promoting social responsibility.....my ass. Dumbass gov with double standards. Like a tiny decrease in booze prices will cause everyone to go nuts on alcohol.

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Originally posted by MarkT who said it's "free money"??? and it's three payments, btw. http://www.rev.gov.on.ca/en/credit/sttb/index.html I think the entire rebate system is ridiculous. isn't that far more inefficient and costly to administer than simply incorporating a rebate claim in the tax return for eligible persons??? in any case, whether you agree or disagree with the HST rebates (and the GST ones for that matter), not cashing the cheque is pointless, IMHO. if you don't want the money, cash the cheque and donate the money to your favourite charity who will put it to good use. you will get a small tax credit for yourself for your donation. hell, if you're that upset about it, donate the money to an opposing provincial or federal party and email your MPP and MP to say so. not cashing it is dumb...

great post!

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Originally posted by MarkT who said it's "free money"??? and it's three payments, btw. http://www.rev.gov.on.ca/en/credit/sttb/index.html I think the entire rebate system is ridiculous. isn't that far more inefficient and costly to administer than simply incorporating a rebate claim in the tax return for eligible persons???

Brilliant point, yes. Kinda makes you think why they're doing it - more of public image thing, that people are getting money out of it, false logic for accepting the HST tax. Yay, go HST go, it gave me some cash to spend for the weekend/party/whatever.

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in any case, whether you agree or disagree with the HST rebates (and the GST ones for that matter), not cashing the cheque is pointless, IMHO. if you don't want the money, cash the cheque and donate the money to your favourite charity who will put it to good use. you will get a small tax credit for yourself for your donation. hell, if you're that upset about it, donate the money to an opposing provincial or federal party and email your MPP and MP to say so. not cashing it is dumb...

That money means little to me, I am not desperate for the cheque. Its an issue of dignity, morals, principles, real issues at hand, and noone can EVER bribe me, in any case or any situation. Charity/donation sounds like a great idea tough. We'll see, we'll see ... I am leaning more towards making a public statement and ditching the rebate. That way I can sleep better at night, haha ... I would feel guilty if I accepted that filthy money.

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Originally posted by KStuff I got my $100.00. What a joke. Speaking of married people getting $320, is it true that if you file as common law you don't even get a GST check? just thinking into the (near) future. Seems like common laws get screwed the most.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 common law would get something, im assuming its the $100. I think GST depends on your income.

common law is treated the same as married, so they're not getting 'screwed'.

qualifying for both the GST and HST rebates depend on your income. for HST, if you earn over 80k, or couples earn over 160k, the rebate does not apply.

come on guys...read up on the topic. you're not stupid people and you can look this up very easily online or make a phone call to the relevant tax office or CRA if you're still not sure.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium .. That money means little to me, I am not desperate for the cheque. Its an issue of dignity, morals, principles, real issues at hand, and noone can EVER bribe me, in any case or any situation. Charity/donation sounds like a great idea tough. We'll see, we'll see ... I am leaning more towards making a public statement and ditching the rebate. That way I can sleep better at night, haha ... I would feel guilty if I accepted that filthy money.

do it...donate it.

the $100 ($300 when all is said and done) may indeed mean very little to you, but if a lot of people donate that money to a good cause, it will mean a LOT to people who DO need it

by all means make your thoughts known to your MP and MPP. public outrage DOES have an impact.

look how quickly the provincial Liberals ditched the sex-ed initiatives earlier this year (and though I do support better sex-ed for kids, that program was way too much, way too soon).

My $100 has been cashed and the donation has been made to the Ontario Conservative Party. Time to get this fuck head out of power.

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Originally posted by MarkT common law is treated the same as married,

which is one of the first things id reverse if i were in power.


Gotta love how the state decides for you when you make the decision not to.

I got my bribe today.

Fortunately We ontarians can now show 100% tax free in the state of Washington!

I got my $330...

I put it toward my debt...

Listen guys... I hate this tax... I HATE McStealy...

Problem is that the majority of the ppl who voted, voted for him...

Also, most of the country has already implemented this tax so we were bound to follow...

Until the voters make this douchebag get voted out of office, as well as the others who have this tax in place, then it's here and to stay...

So I'll take what I can get, support my family with it, and take it in the ass with my fellow Canadians...

lulz @ donating to the conservatives

It doesn't matter whether or not I receive the rebate, what matters is that the Government of Ontario, despite a deficit budget, chose to administer an expensive rebate program attached to HST (at least BC put the savings toward deficit reduction).

HST makes sense - it cuts a whole layer out of managing value-added tax (and value added tax [i.e. consumption tax] is a sensible taxation methodology) and drives efficiency in taxation. Value- added tax should directly relate to reductions in income (corporate and personal) taxation.

The problem is that Ontario chose to bribe the tax-payer by providing a rebate when really the money should have been invested to reduce the deficit/debt.

McGiggleNuts needs to be replaced - Ontario is not under good stewardship under his leadership.

(Mind you, if the Conservatives sell the cash-cows [LCBO, Hydro, Lottery, etc.] they too will be making poor decisions.

lol it's time my roomie and I file as a common law

We got our $330 in the mail the other day. Haven't really decided what to put it towards though. We have a trip account, so it'll most likely get thrown in there.

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Originally posted by mute79 lulz @ donating to the conservatives

actually if u donate the $100 you get $75 back on your income tax. So really its only a $25 donation.

speaking of reducing Ontario's debt...that's another option for people who don't wish to keep their refund.

people can elect to help do so by donating their rebate to the Ontario Opportunities Fund (that was setup by the Harris gov't, before anyone pipes up and calls it a liberal sham or something, lol):

http://www.rev.gov.on.ca/en/credit/oof/

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Originally posted by MarkT speaking of reducing Ontario's debt...that's another option for people who don't wish to keep their refund. people can elect to help do so by donating their rebate to the Ontario Opportunities Fund (that was setup by the Harris gov't, before anyone pipes up and calls it a liberal sham or something, lol): http://www.rev.gov.on.ca/en/credit/oof/

yeah no thanks... ive already seen how capable this government is at wasting money. They dont need more of it.

I haven't received anything yet, but I don't qualify personally. BUT....my gf lives with me and we are therefore considered "common law" and this is stated on our taxes, so since she doesn't work I do qualify now with the "couple" income.

So should I be getting a cheque then? Does it matter if I haven't done my 2009 taxes yet?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 actually if u donate the $100 you get $75 back on your income tax. So really its only a $25 donation.

No you don't. You get $21.05 back.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker (Mind you, if the Conservatives sell the cash-cows [LCBO, Hydro, Lottery, etc.] they too will be making poor decisions.

Wait, Hydro is a cash cow? I haven't seen their balance sheet, but how is that possible when consumers are only paying a fraction of what it costs to generate the electricity?

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