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Awesome interactive map: where Americans are moving

Saw this in Forbes... this is amazing. You can click on any county in the U.S. to see where people are moving to and from. Black lines indicate net inward movement, red lines net outward movement. A few examples before doing it yourself:

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If we look at Harris County, Texas, where Houston is located, we can practically hear a giant sucking sound as the state�s largest city pulls people southward from the northeast, the Midwest, and elsewhere. Most of the outmigration is regional, with some identifiable patterns to the upper northwest. You get a similar picture when you look at the migration patterns to Dallas and Austin.

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Travis County, home to Austin, looks similarly like a bull�s eye on the dartboard of appealing places to live. It�s hard to find any distinct patterns of where people in Austin go when they leave the state. The red lines are thin indeed.

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Now let�s look at California. Aside from the appeal of Los Angeles to people living in the high-cost northeast (you might as well have good beaches and sunny weather if you�re paying high taxes for bad services), it appears the city of angels is losing its heavenly radiance in a massive way. San Diego also looks very red.

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Now, in a departure from the theme of the series, Detroit (Wayne County, Michigan) was so vividly depressing that I simply have to include it. Hardly anything shows the tragic effects of bad policy and under-performing industry than the picture below.

Pretty cool. Check out the counties around NY City and New Jersey... looks like a mass exodus away from unbearable taxation.

Link to the interactive map here:

http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/04/mi...l?preload=39099

Everyone is moving away from Canada....do we smell or something

Taking a quite neat application and using it to try and score political points. Whee.

as long as this fat shit moves out of NYC, I'm happy

yes everyone move to texas! cali is closed

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Originally posted by leph555 as long as this fat shit moves out of NYC, I'm happy

he lives in Florida. Hasn't done a radio show in NYC in 2 years. Like most wise business people who worked in that shithole of a city, he would also like to keep more than 40% of his earnings.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Taking a quite neat application and using it to try and score political points. Whee.

It's not about scoring political points. It's quite an instructive application, because it powerfully illustrates the problem people ignore; we get to see the reality of how the most liberal wannabe utopian paradises are forcing people out in droves b/c of their policies, only damaging those who such policies are supposed to cater to since fewer actual taxpayers remain. People and industry are moving to areas with lower tax and regulatory burdens that actually foster growth. Totally understandable.

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Originally posted by R!CH yes everyone move to texas! cali is closed

no don't move to texas. we don't like your kind here. j/k

neat

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch no don't move to texas. we don't like your kind here. j/k

i'm actually from austin

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Originally posted by R!CH i'm actually from austin

well we'll just call you a sellout, because you left austin

btw, i live in austin, but moved here. so i am part of the heavy black line.

I'd have no problem getting the fuck out of California if I had the chance.

lol everyone is moving out of cook county (chicago)- doesn't surprise me.

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Originally posted by The17sss Like most wise business people who worked in that shithole of a city

wut

that's pretty cool kevin, just moved to portland,oregon from manhattan and seems like there is a lot of inbound movement...surprising since portland is boring.

Main thing I got from those maps is that folks who live in the Dakotas are quite content to remain there.

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Originally posted by The17sss It's quite an instructive application, because it powerfully illustrates the problem people ignore; we get to see the reality of how the most liberal wannabe utopian paradises are forcing people out in droves b/c of their policies, only damaging those who such policies are supposed to cater to since fewer actual taxpayers remain. People and industry are moving to areas with lower tax and regulatory burdens that actually foster growth. Totally understandable.

I really don't think it's fair to peg the movement solely on "policies" etc. If you look on the East coast (NY etc.) a huge majority of movement is going to Florida. It seems pretty obvious to me that this is due to weather preference over anything else. Baby boomers are retiring and MANY of them are going south.

You can't make any real assumptions based on this map unless you have the information explaining the motive for moving.

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Originally posted by chimera66 that's pretty cool kevin, just moved to portland,oregon from manhattan and seems like there is a lot of inbound movement...surprising since portland is boring.

I had 2 friends just move back here after spending 15 months in Portland and they really enjoyed it. Do you like to do outdoors-y type stuff?

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Originally posted by leph555 wut

For real. I love visiting NY for the fact that you can get anything you want at any time, have incredible museums/music/art/restaurants, and some pretty amazing historic stuff.... but visiting and living there are 2 different things. Unless you're in the 99th percentile that runs around in wealthy circles, you're mostly stuck in the annoying dirtiness of that congested concrete jungle.

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Originally posted by Theresa I really don't think it's fair to peg the movement solely on "policies" etc. If you look on the East coast (NY etc.) a huge majority of movement is going to Florida. It seems pretty obvious to me that this is due to weather preference over anything else. Baby boomers are retiring and MANY of them are going south. You can't make any real assumptions based on this map unless you have the information explaining the motive for moving.

This. You can't attribute this to any one factor solely. There are a lot of different factors involved here and just based on this map you can't really make any observations.

Correlation does not imply causation.

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Originally posted by The17sss I had 2 friends just move back here after spending 15 months in Portland and they really enjoyed it. Do you like to do outdoors-y type stuff?

i like walking outside and nature but i am far from outdoor-y. it's home so i knew what i was getting into; no complaints and this slow pace is relaxing for now.

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Originally posted by The17sss For real. I love visiting NY for the fact that you can get anything you want at any time, have incredible museums/music/art/restaurants, and some pretty amazing historic stuff.... but visiting and living there are 2 different things. Unless you're in the 99th percentile that runs around in wealthy circles, you're mostly stuck in the annoying dirtiness of that congested concrete jungle.

somewhat true, i lived there for nearly 5yrs and great place to visit but not a place for everyone to live. i had a pretty decent life not being in the 99th percentile but among other things my dislike of the city is a big reason why i quit my job and left.

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Originally posted by Theresa I really don't think it's fair to peg the movement solely on "policies" etc. If you look on the East coast (NY etc.) a huge majority of movement is going to Florida. It seems pretty obvious to me that this is due to weather preference over anything else. Baby boomers are retiring and MANY of them are going south. You can't make any real assumptions based on this map unless you have the information explaining the motive for moving.

Weather preferences the main reason for moving to Florida? No. Zero state income tax in Florida? Yes. I wouldn't say the policies are "solely" the reason, but it has to be the main reason. It can't possibly be a coincidence that the states and cities with the highest rates of combined city/state/property taxation and regulatory fees (California, Illinios, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Michigan), also the strongest social welfare policy states, have the vast majority of their people moving to Florida and Texas who have NO state income tax and are consistantly rated as most "business friendly". Utah is seeing a major surge in business development because so many people from CA are moving across that border. I don't think there's any stronger motivating factor to move than knowing you can go to a place that lets you keep more of the money you make.

that's what i like to see

lol @ where i currently live.

I have to agree with 17 here.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/p23-204.pdf

Climate accounts for less than 1%

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Originally posted by Sunsnail I have to agree with 17 here. http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/p23-204.pdf Climate accounts for less than 1%

That's from 10/11 years ago - not necessarily indicative of more recent trends.

It has only been recent that all of the baby boomers have been retiring. I would argue that a lot of recent movement is directly related to them considering there are about 72 million baby boomers, all of whom are at or are just coming into retirement age.

With that being said, we can't really make any concrete assumptions.

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Originally posted by Lews This. You can't attribute this to any one factor solely. There are a lot of different factors involved here and just based on this map you can't really make any observations. Correlation does not imply causation.

My point exactly.

baby boomers retiring means a mix of people that either a. are not working and want to save on taxes or b. wealthy people that want to save on taxes

don't get me wrong, I'm sure SOME people move here to enjoy beaches and not have to deal with the cold, etc., but I think the majority are for tax purposes.

Your population is over 300 million. This graph therefore illustrates basically nothing.

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