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Posted by BTG on Jul-07-2010 05:51:

i hate hell's kitchen

because i dont have enough time to watch both episodes in one night.

that is all

you can delete this thread.


Posted by Paradox Lost on Jul-07-2010 05:58:

Who made this thread?!


Posted by RandomGirl on Jul-07-2010 07:43:

In the real world, if anyone talked to other people the way that man does, he would have the labour board all up in his ass, and probably sued for everything under the sun. He really is a massive dick head. It's a wonder people actually stay on the show... it's a lot of verbal abuse and demoralizing to go through.

I realize it "makes good tv" but still.


Posted by Trance Nutter on Jul-07-2010 08:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
In the real world, if anyone talked to other people the way that man does, he would have the labour board all up in his ass, and probably sued for everything under the sun. He really is a massive dick head. It's a wonder people actually stay on the show... it's a lot of verbal abuse and demoralizing to go through.

I realize it "makes good tv" but still.


If you watch the English version of Kitchen Nightmares, then watch the US version of the same show, its bloody obvious that he has been instructed by the US show makers to go off about absolutely everything. Sure he's a harsh person, but its obvious that in the misguided need for "a better show", he has been instructed to inflate it.


Posted by igottaknow on Jul-07-2010 11:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
If you watch the English version of Kitchen Nightmares, then watch the US version of the same show, its bloody obvious that he has been instructed by the US show makers to go off about absolutely everything. Sure he's a harsh person, but its obvious that in the misguided need for "a better show", he has been instructed to inflate it.

the formula of putting sub par contests in pressure situations so they'll screw up and he can scream at them is getting old.


Posted by Trance Nutter on Jul-07-2010 13:23:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
the formula of putting sub par contests in pressure situations so they'll screw up and he can scream at them is getting old.


it was pretty olld from the start. Compare and contrast UK Kitchen Nightmares vs US Kitchen Nightmares, completely different and the UK one isn't cringe-inducing to watch.


Posted by ziptnf on Jul-07-2010 13:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
In the real world, if anyone talked to other people the way that man does, he would have the labour board all up in his ass, and probably sued for everything under the sun. He really is a massive dick head. It's a wonder people actually stay on the show... it's a lot of verbal abuse and demoralizing to go through.

That's why you have to be an awesome cook

Seriously, this show is like the abused redheaded stepchild version of Top Chef.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Jul-07-2010 13:36:

Hell's Kitchen NYC = Gay Neighborhood


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Posted by corjay9 on Jul-07-2010 14:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
In the real world, if anyone talked to other people the way that man does, he would have the labour board all up in his ass, and probably sued for everything under the sun. He really is a massive dick head. It's a wonder people actually stay on the show... it's a lot of verbal abuse and demoralizing to go through.


My buddy went to culinary arts school in Florence, and he said the resto he worked at for his placement was just as intense, if not even more so. He said the head chefs would dump whole plates on the floor if they were overcooked, then he'd have to clean it up AND make a new plate.

He said Chef Ramsey isn't far from reality at some very high class restos.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jul-07-2010 18:46:

quote:
Originally posted by corjay9
My buddy went to culinary arts school in Florence, and he said the resto he worked at for his placement was just as intense, if not even more so. He said the head chefs would dump whole plates on the floor if they were overcooked, then he'd have to clean it up AND make a new plate.

He said Chef Ramsey isn't far from reality at some very high class restos.


quoted for truth.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jul-07-2010 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
In the real world, if anyone talked to other people the way that man does, he would have the labour board all up in his ass, and probably sued for everything under the sun. He really is a massive dick head. It's a wonder people actually stay on the show... it's a lot of verbal abuse and demoralizing to go through.

I realize it "makes good tv" but still.


You've never worked in a kitchen, professionally (or if you have, you're lucky). Not that there aren't chefs who aren't bat-shit crazy, but when you get sanity plus competence, the restaurant usually has a line of cooks waiting to get in because the turn-over's exceedingly low. I worked under one guy who was regularly sued because he'd punch cooks out. He jacked up (putting a closed fist underneath his chin and slowly lifting him off the ground up against a wall) a sous chef one night while I was working.


Posted by igottaknow on Jul-07-2010 19:25:

the thing is you know the producers hand pick a few who are good enough to make the finals and the rest are sub par fodder for Ramsey's rage. Its kind of like why American Idol intentionally auditions the worst for laughs. I don't doubt head chefs at real restaurants chew out their apprentices, but it's tiresome to see it played out over and over again on TV. Most of the contestants don't have what it takes and no amount of screaming is going to make them better.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jul-07-2010 19:29:

Honestly, this season is the absolute worst batch of chefs I've ever seen on this show.


Posted by darouge11 on Jul-07-2010 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Honestly, this season is the absolute worst batch of chefs I've ever seen on this show.


true, I hate almost everyone on this show this season


Posted by Spam on Jul-07-2010 23:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
In the real world, if anyone talked to other people the way that man does, he would have the labour board all up in his ass, and probably sued for everything under the sun. He really is a massive dick head. It's a wonder people actually stay on the show... it's a lot of verbal abuse and demoralizing to go through.

I realize it "makes good tv" but still.


You obviously don't know SHIT about working in a kitchen.

Ramsey is child's play compared to some of the head-chefs I know. It's industry-wide, and the labour board doesn't do shit all about the "abuse" these chefs hand out.

The kicker is that 90% of the donkeys slacking their way through a kitchen shift deserve the abuse they get.


Posted by Spam on Jul-07-2010 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
the thing is you know the producers hand pick a few who are good enough to make the finals and the rest are sub par fodder for Ramsey's rage. Its kind of like why American Idol intentionally auditions the worst for laughs. I don't doubt head chefs at real restaurants chew out their apprentices, but it's tiresome to see it played out over and over again on TV. Most of the contestants don't have what it takes and no amount of screaming is going to make them better.


This is the truth, and the problem.

The show is filled with cooks who have either:

Never worked a professional line.

Or

Never made it past Pantry (basic appetizers).

Some (most) of the mistakes made on the show (and I haven't watched since season 3) are down-right rookie errors that no aspiring chef would ever make.

I REALLY get a kick out of the wannabe TV-stars that walk up to expo to complain at Ramsey. They're either paid to do it, or have their heads so far up their asses they actually believe they deserve to be heard.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jul-07-2010 23:58:

Spam's right. Total rookie moves.

Another chef I worked under regularly billed himself as the Meanest Man Alive and could put all but the most hardened of meta-flamers to shame with some of the shit just coming off the top of his head. Of these, I remember:

"If I wanted you to FIX IT I would have had you do it fucking right in the first place"

"Are you filming a documentary or is there some other reason you're doing that in slow motion?"

(Referring to a chef he rightly thought sub-standard) "Oh, sorry, I must have had my head up my DeWayne."

He followed one cook around the kitchen humming and singing Dumbo's "Pink Elephants on Parade" and calling him Dumbo. And the cook was quite fat and slow.

Regularly took pride in making the waitrons cry.

He was funny as hell, knew his shit, but could be a complete douche-bag, too.


Posted by Lilith on Jul-08-2010 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
This is the truth, and the problem.

The show is filled with cooks who have either:

Never worked a professional line.

Or

Never made it past Pantry (basic appetizers).


Or

Duds with no self respect that will put up with being verbally sodomised on TV to make a career



I've been to his restaurant in London, its really quite a good restaurant and the food is excellent, but I dunno. The endless faffing around with getting a booking and then the rancid levels of pretentiousness of maitres de and wait staff kind of puts you off.
Put it this way, I've seen people in 'smart casual' not allowed in, which was kind of funny but unnecessary.


Posted by Spam on Jul-08-2010 05:02:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Spam's right. Total rookie moves.

Another chef I worked under regularly billed himself as the Meanest Man Alive and could put all but the most hardened of meta-flamers to shame with some of the shit just coming off the top of his head. Of these, I remember:

"If I wanted you to FIX IT I would have had you do it fucking right in the first place"

"Are you filming a documentary or is there some other reason you're doing that in slow motion?"

(Referring to a chef he rightly thought sub-standard) "Oh, sorry, I must have had my head up my DeWayne."

He followed one cook around the kitchen humming and singing Dumbo's "Pink Elephants on Parade" and calling him Dumbo. And the cook was quite fat and slow.

Regularly took pride in making the waitrons cry.

He was funny as hell, knew his shit, but could be a complete douche-bag, too.


My head chef stood on pasta station and spent lunch service throwing empty squirt bottles at our pantry prep cook because he entered service with grungy bottles. Talking constant shit to him the entire time about how lazy he was. It was hilarious.



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