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*** NEW *** Pioneer CDJ 850
http://pioneerdjusa.com/gear.aspx?product=CDJ-850&cp=4
Play Like A Professional DJ With Pioneer's
New CDJ-850 Digital Media Player
PIONEER CDJ-850 OFFERS PRO-SERIES DESIGN, PRECISE CONTROL, REKORDBOX� MUSIC MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE
AND MUSIC-FILE READY FEATURES FOR ASPIRING DJS
Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. Professional Sound and Visual Division redefines the DJ experience today with the announcement of its new CDJ-850 digital media player, inspired by Pioneer�s cutting-edge professional CDJ series for the next generation of DJ entertainers. The CDJ-850 player adopts many of the technical advances made in the industry standard pro-series versions and invites all levels of DJs to create, perform and share mixes like a professional.
Pioneer is dedicated to bringing DJs the best audio/video and live performance products. For newer DJs looking to elevate and greatly enhance their performance and creativity, Pioneer�s CDJ-850 delivers enhanced mixing features, excellent audio quality and a new platform for them to share their music.
�With the increasing popularity of the DJ art form and culture, we understand the importance of creating products for all levels of DJ skill sets. Our aim with the new CDJ-850 is to ensure that DJs get to enjoy similar innovative features and design to those found in our flagship CDJ-2000 and CDJ-900 players, and get to experience the best product for their needs,� said David Arevalo, senior marketing manager, Professional Sound and Visual division for Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc.
Download the CDJ-850 product sheet
Highlights of the CDJ-850 include:
Pro-series Design And Exacting Features � Inheriting the club standard layout and precise control features of its professional CDJ series, the CDJ-850 integrates a large 206mm jog dial for continuous free and easy control along with a rotary selector and browse buttons integrated within the display.
Compatible Media and Formats � Users can mix a variety of music formats and media, as the CDJ-850 is compatible with MP3, AAC, WAV and AIFF digital audio formats recorded on USB storage devices or CD-R/RW discs.
Included rekordbox Software � Pioneer�s new exclusive DJ music management software makes it easy for home DJs to effortlessly organize their entire music library as it analyzes files (settings, creating playlists, saving histories) to their custom specifications. As used by professionals to optimize DJ play, the software enables users to:
Analyze data such as the Wave, Beat Grid, BPM, and ID3 Tag1 of music files
Create cues2 and loop settings
Create and edits playlists
Save history of music files played on the CDJ-850
USB Export Capability � DJs using the rekordbox software can easily export their music files and custom managed data onto a USB device and quickly plug in directly to the CDJ-850 and access tracks without the need to be linked to a PC. Play histories on the CDJ-850 are automatically recorded onto rekordbox via connected USB device for the DJ�s next session which makes the cycle of music file management, DJ play and preparation for future sessions very simple.
User Interface � The display and user interface of the player is designed for quick and fluid music selection. Combined with its rotary selector, navigation through music lists (title, artist, BPM, etc.) is extremely fast and easy. The WAVE display enables smooth DJ play because the user can visually analyze the flow and dynamics of the entire song.
DJ Software Control and Audio Interface � The CDJ-850 multi-media player features MIDI, enabling control of various DJ software running on a laptop. With the use of the built-in USB HID interface, the CDJ-850 can also control more complex operations of DJ software without the need for a control disc. For additional versatility, the player can also be used as a PC audio interface.
Tag List Function � Equipped with an editable Tag List functionality, users of the player can easily register tracks during play or preview to add to their playlist queue. The song order in the Tag List can be altered and saved as a playlist in rekordbox.
Other features include:
Auto Beat Loop function creates a beat loop with a touch of a button.
Four levels3 of settings can be made for the maximum variation range of a song's tempo (�6%, �10%, �16% and WIDE).
Resume functionality plays music from where it was left off when removed and later reloaded.
Excellent vibration-resistance due to built-in Shock-Proof Memory4 and Floating Architecture.
The Pioneer CDJ-850 will be available in August 2010 with a suggested retail price of $999.
Pioneer offers a complete line of professional DJ Equipment through its Professional Sound & Visual Division. Its DJM series of mixers has become an industry standard at clubs, studios, mobile rigs and homes around the world, known for its high quality sound and reliability. For more information, visit www.PioneerDJusa.com.
Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. is headquartered in Long Beach, Calif., and its U.S. Web address is www.PioneerElectronics.com. Its parent company, Pioneer Corporation, established in Tokyo in 1938, is a preeminent manufacturer of high-performance audio, video and computer equipment for the home, car and business markets.
1Wave: displaying the dynamics and density of the sound of the entire song and allows the structure of the entire song to be checked
Beat Grid: refers to the beat position displayed on the waveform in rekordbox
Beats Per Minute (BPM) indicates the tempo of a song numerically, so the beats per minute is its BPM
ID3 Tag: refers to the standard for writing meta-data, such as the artist, year created, title, etc., into an MP3 file
2 Cue: refers to a point in a song
Loop: Repeatedly playing a snatch of music seamlessly
3 WIDE only works with music CDs. Music files such as MP3, AAC, WAV & AIFF can be set in three levels, �6%, �10%, �16%
4 A technology that prevents skipping by storing the audio in memory just ahead of the music playing.
PIONEER is a registered trademark of Pioneer Corporation
REKORDBOX is a registered trademark of Pioneer and is a music file management software for use with Pioneer products
CDJ-850 Specifications:
Playable Media: Music CDs, CD-R/RW, USB devices (flash memory/HDD, etc.)
Playable Files: MP3, AAC, WAV, AIFF
File formats compatible with USB storage:
FAT16, FAT32, HFS+
Frequency Performance:
4 Hz�20 kHz
Signal/Noise Ratio: 115 dB or higher (JEITA)
Total Harmonic Distortion 0.003% or less (JEITA)
USB Ports: USB A Port � 1, USB B Port � 1
Audio Output Terminals: AUDIO OUT (RCA)
Other Terminals: Control (3.5mm mini-plug)
Audio Output Voltage: 2.0 V
Power Source: AC 120V (60 Hz)
Power consumption 21W
Max External Dimensions: 12.01in (W) x 14.35in (D) x 4.15in (H)
Weight 7.3 lbs
Included Music Management Software�rekordbox
Compatible OS: Windows Vista/XP, Mac OS10.4 or later
Playable Files: MP3, AAC, WAV (44.1 kHz/16bit), AIFF (44.1 kHz/16bit)
File formats compatible with USB storage:
FAT12, FAT16, FAT32, HFS+
System Requirements
CPU: Pentium-M 1.5 GHz or faster
Memory: 512 MB or more (with Vista, at least 1 GB)
Free HDD Capacity: 250 MB or more
Disc Drives: Drive that can play CD-ROM/CD-DA discs
Display: Displays capable of at least 1,024 X 768 pixels (XGA) or with High Color (16-bit) or better
Anyone know off hand what the difference between the 900 and 850 is then? This just confuses me.
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| Originally posted by n3lly Anyone know off hand what the difference between the 900 and 850 is then? This just confuses me. |
I think it's about time to upgrade from my 1000 MK2's and go USB with their new stuff. I'd rather run these and USB than laptop anyday.
Hold your horses. According to Scratchworx, the new CDJ 850 won't let you "share" your USB device like the 2000 & 900 do. That means u need two USB drives.
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| On July 8, 2010, Pulse commented... To clarify for readers, the USB connection on the face is for a device, the USB connection on the back is for the soundcard and MIDI/HID control, but there is no 'sharing'; you need one USB device per player to play music. |
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| Soooo� at first glance, the 850 is an 800 with a new screen. But digging deeper, you'll soon see a few useful updates that makes the 850 a worthy product rather than just a spit and polish affair. It is largely the same at first glance - yes there is a new screen, but strangely not tilted like the 900 and 2000. I guess that's just for pros. This update is all about adding the new Pioneer rekordbox workflow. So you can now organise your library just like with the 350, 900 and 2000s and use the same music on any of these units. One key feature missing here are hot cues. The 800 before it lacked them and so does the 850. Like slanty screens, it seems they're for pros only. This rekordbox implementation does however lack the rather wonderful link feature. And it also seems that you can't share a pair of 850s over USB either. Shame - that's really handy. Looks like you'll need to step up to the 900s to experience the better part of rekordbox functionality. But what the 850 does get is MIDI and more importantly HID. So the wonderful world of control disk free DVS rocking is now open to you. Well once the various DVS makers release updates to make it happen of course. |
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| On July 8, 2010, Pulse commented... 900 vs. 850 For those comparing these two players, there are a few small differences on the 850: - no digital out - no slip mode - no secondary timings on the beat cutters - display is 2 lines and a waveform (vs. 3+info and a waveform) - the time information is displayed smaller than on the 900 ...and one big difference... - no LINK function |
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| Originally posted by DjWoody Hold your horses. According to Scratchworx, the new CDJ 850 won't let you "share" your USB device like the 2000 & 900 do. That means u need two USB drives. |
what a fuckin waste of money! for $1200 you could get the xone:dx which would let you do waaaaay more than pioneer and their overpriced crap lets you do. "semi-pro djs" hahaha what condescending retarded pr, what a joke...not to mention the fact that immediately after buying this you'd just be lusting after the 2000s.
get a good midi controller, a good sound card, and a copy of traktor and you'd be able to do way more than a pair of 850s or 900s would let you do...
unless you have all the money in the world then just buy the 2000s I'm sure they're awesome
For a company that has tried to consolidate over the last few years, they sure seem to be OVER-expanding in our market lately, don't they?
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| Originally posted by Max Thomson what a fuckin waste of money! for $1200 you could get the xone:dx which would let you do waaaaay more than pioneer and their overpriced crap lets you do. "semi-pro djs" hahaha what condescending retarded pr, what a joke...not to mention the fact that immediately after buying this you'd just be lusting after the 2000s. get a good midi controller, a good sound card, and a copy of traktor and you'd be able to do way more than a pair of 850s or 900s would let you do... unless you have all the money in the world then just buy the 2000s I'm sure they're awesome |
Not to sound like an ass, but the money isn't that bad. I have no problem dropping that on gear I really like/prefer using.
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| Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY I don't care to have a huge effects box...I'd rather choose tracks that don't need all that shit to sound good. I still prefer to play on decks of some sort rather than point and click Not to sound like an ass, but the money isn't that bad. I have no problem dropping that on gear I really like/prefer using. |
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| Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY I don't care to have a huge effects box...I'd rather choose tracks that don't need all that shit to sound good. |
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| Originally posted by A.B Amen Brother! Post of the year! |

What a fistful of pointless.
Eh....I agree with the last few posts. Doesn't really seem necessary to have this, with all the new cdj's recently. Unless you really liked the color of the 800's.
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| Originally posted by amp3 Eh....I agree with the last few posts. Doesn't really seem necessary to have this, with all the new cdj's recently. Unless you really liked the color of the 800's. |
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| Originally posted by n3lly I'd nearly have preferred if they had just brought out another 900S For silver. Instead of this. What's the price difference on the 850 and 900? $150? |
Hmmm.
If you didn't want to shell out as much money and wanted a set of cdj's that you could use with your DVS system, with the obvious ability to play cd's every now and again this might.. MAYBE be an option.
USB is handy. Lack of Linking does suck dick though. Big Girthy Dick..
they are just flooding the market with product to increase sales. it isn't as if the manufacturing of these is so different from the others.
Sounds like Pioneer has that Denon disease going. Remember when Denon was spitting out players left and right. Now you only see like two players oppose to six. Personally I don't see a need for this model. After seeing the price difference, you're better off getting the 900's for what an extra $100.
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| Originally posted by n3lly Hmmm. If you didn't want to shell out as much money and wanted a set of cdj's that you could use with your DVS system, with the obvious ability to play cd's every now and again this might.. MAYBE be an option. USB is handy. Lack of Linking does suck dick though. Big Girthy Dick.. |
These don't look so bad honestly. People loved the 800's because of their lower cost while retaining the feel of the 1000's. The 900's are far too expensive and feature-laden to be considered a replacement for that model, so the 850's seem to be a more appropriate upgrade. The price difference alone ($4-600 cheaper than the 900's for a pair) justifies their existence. If you just think of them as 800's with rekordbox and USB ports then these decks are great.
I do think that this screws over the 900 quite a bit. It's previous best selling point was that it was the cheapest "professional" caliber player with rekordbox. Now that you can get that with the 850 why would you buy the 900? It does seem like poor strategy on the part of pioneer, but that's not a knock on the 850. If anything, the 900 is now the "pointless" CDJ.
cdj-1000s aint broke so dont fix it...
Couldn't agree anymore. I still can't see the point of the 900's to be honest. 1000 Mk3's are a nifty piece of kit, the 2000's are something else but the 900 and these just seem like a waste of time to me, I didn't know they were out until this morning when I found them on decks.co.uk.
dude, i don't understand this. what's the point of releasing all of these different models when they all cost ~1000 bucks? some skimp on features here and there, but fuck.
i'm waiting for a decent pio cd deck for ~500 bucks that has the same platter cue system as an 800 or 1000 and .02 pitch. it'll never happen, but... a man can dream i suppose.
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| Originally posted by Omega_Blue dude, i don't understand this. what's the point of releasing all of these different models when they all cost ~1000 bucks? some skimp on features here and there, but fuck. i'm waiting for a decent pio cd deck for ~500 bucks that has the same platter cue system as an 800 or 1000 and .02 pitch. it'll never happen, but... a man can dream i suppose. |
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