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Posted by bo0ga on Jul-17-2010 00:56:

How do you change to songs with different BPMs?

Thinking about getting into DJing, so this is probably a very noob question. How do DJ's go to the next song if it has a different BPM? Don't you have to play with the pitch to get the BPM the same so that you can transition into the next song smoothly?


Posted by Polt on Jul-17-2010 01:07:

Re: How do you change to songs with different BPMs?

quote:
Originally posted by bo0ga
Don't you have to play with the pitch to get the BPM the same so that you can transition into the next song smoothly?


Yep. You adjust the incoming track's pitch so that it matches the outgoing track.


Posted by bo0ga on Jul-17-2010 01:28:

Right but, if I start a song that's 130 bpm, theres only so many songs that are 130 or around there (127-133). What if I want to put a few higher tempo songs that are 138-140 or so? How do I transition to that? I wouldn't want to make those kinds of songs 10 beats slower, it would ruin how the song sounds.


Posted by Polt on Jul-17-2010 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by bo0ga
Right but, if I start a song that's 130 bpm, theres only so many songs that are 130 or around there (127-133). What if I want to put a few higher tempo songs that are 138-140 or so?


Well, you could always play a track at 130, then 132, then 135, then 138. Or you could do something different then just straight mixing from one track to another to drastically change the tempo.


Posted by bo0ga on Jul-17-2010 02:37:

Wouldn't I have to make the next song match the previous one? How would I gradually work my way up? For example, if I start a song that has 130 BPM, I have to make the next song 130 BPM or the beats won't match. How would I mix into the next song if its 132? Does the BPM always have to be exact?


Posted by Sadface on Jul-17-2010 03:32:

You can gradually move up the tempo of the playing track as well if you need to. You could take a track at 130 and move it up to 131 without it sounding bad, then mix in a 133 track pitched down to 131, move it up to 132, mix in a 132 track, pitch it up a bit to 133/134, etc etc etc.

Going from 130-138 is too big a jump to do all at once whilst keeping it smooth, but smaller nudges over several tracks will sound just fine.


Posted by darouge11 on Jul-17-2010 09:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
You can gradually move up the tempo of the playing track as well if you need to. You could take a track at 130 and move it up to 131 without it sounding bad, then mix in a 133 track pitched down to 131, move it up to 132, mix in a 132 track, pitch it up a bit to 133/134, etc etc etc.

Going from 130-138 is too big a jump to do all at once whilst keeping it smooth, but smaller nudges over several tracks will sound just fine.


simplest explanation...no joke


Posted by bo0ga on Jul-17-2010 19:51:

so another words, when a song is playing, you can slowly change the pitch to increase its BPM by 1 or 2? Or you can mix it into the next song thats 1 or 2 beats faster?


Posted by Polt on Jul-17-2010 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by bo0ga
so another words, when a song is playing, you can slowly change the pitch to increase its BPM by 1 or 2?


Yes.

quote:
Originally posted by bo0ga Or you can mix it into the next song thats 1 or 2 beats faster?


You can adjust track a to match the speed of track b. You still need to have both tracks at the same speed, otherwise it won't work.


Posted by discobiscuit on Jul-19-2010 01:02:

You can mix songs with drastically different bpms smoothly without beatmatching. It is done during space/breakdowns using eqing, filters, and echo. If done right jumping from 125 to something like 135 you can get an incredible crowd response. Also jumping down after a heavy/fast track to something slower can be a breath of fresh air. Doing these kind of transitions once or twice a night is alright and shouldn't be frowned upon (when spinning edm that is). Mixing hip hop drastic bpm
changes happen all the time but scratching is most commonly used. I can scratch from 125 to 100bpm no problem and it sounds great. I also like to echo out on a vocal clip and scratch into various bpm tracks.

There is no right or wrong way to DJ develop your own style.

Just avoid trainwrecks. People would rather hear a fade in/out than a trainwreck. Fading in/out is pretty lame so trainwrecking is pretty much humiliating (we've all done it tho)


Posted by miamitranceman on Jul-19-2010 02:05:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
You can mix songs with drastically different bpms smoothly without beatmatching. It is done during space/breakdowns using eqing, filters, and echo. If done right jumping from 125 to something like 135 you can get an incredible crowd response. Also jumping down after a heavy/fast track to something slower can be a breath of fresh air. Doing these kind of transitions once or twice a night is alright and shouldn't be frowned upon (when spinning edm that is). Mixing hip hop drastic bpm
changes happen all the time but scratching is most commonly used. I can scratch from 125 to 100bpm no problem and it sounds great. I also like to echo out on a vocal clip and scratch into various bpm tracks.

There is no right or wrong way to DJ develop your own style.

Just avoid trainwrecks. People would rather hear a fade in/out than a trainwreck. Fading in/out is pretty lame so trainwrecking is pretty much humiliating (we've all done it tho)


Complicated explanation...no joke.



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